# Could this be the end of Bill O'Reilly (please please please) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 14, 2004, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150 "2004-10-14T03:34:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/81 "2004-10-14T12:31:55Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Why not just let peaceful honest people pursue their own happiness in their own way? Heheh. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/82 "2004-10-14T12:40:56Z")
_Before_ the sexual harassment suit was filed, BO’R filed a suit against the Fox producer and her attorneys, alleging blackmail. [Link](http://drudgereport.com/fox.htm). So, did the producer try to get money from BO’R before she filed the suit? “Give me $60 million or I’ll go public?” Was this an attempt to settle quietly or extortion? And did BO’R, knowing this suit was coming, just try to get in the first punch? I think it’s still too early in the situation to make broad judgements. I’m going to sit back and see how this shakes out. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/83 "2004-10-14T12:50:33Z")
It’s way too early to assume the legal question of guilt–that’s for the courts to decide. But, c’mon, it’s only human to speculate. It’s not unheard of for a man in a powerful position to abuse his authority, and O’Reilly certainly seems to be the kind of egotistical jerk who would sexually harrass a woman if he thought he could do so with impunity. So my verdict is: let’s see. Maybe he did it, maybe not, but it’s not out of character for O’Reilly to behave boorishly. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/84 "2004-10-14T12:52:19Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Why not just let peaceful honest people pursue their own happiness in their own way? I don’t follow. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/85 "2004-10-14T12:56:06Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > Most of the responses here could have been predicted if all you saw was the name on the left hand side of the screen (and I don’t exclude myself). > [@Liberal](#): > > Why not just let peaceful honest people pursue their own happiness in their own way? > [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > I don’t follow. Maybe it was just worth a ‘heh’ rather than a ‘heheh’. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/86 "2004-10-14T13:27:43Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > **DtC** is just being the _ **partisan asshole** _ that he is. He’s incapable of having a rationaly discussion about anything remotely related to someone he thinks is a Republican and/or a Bush supporter. He knows it. More true words have never been spoken. Also: > [@](#): > > I hope he’s at least getting a good laugh out of his goading in this thread. There’s a word for this. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/87 "2004-10-14T13:31:15Z")
> [@Early Out](#): > > **Bricker** has accurately responded to that concern. If she says, “Bill O’Reilly said X, Y, and Z to me,” that’s not hearsay. That’s perfectly admissible evidence. If a jury believes her, they can certainly find for the plaintiff with nothing more to go on. The Kobe Bryant case leaves me highly skeptical of the “he said, she said” approach, but, hey, the law is the law. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/88 "2004-10-14T13:39:34Z")
Yeah, man. Don’t go all crazy! Seriously, at this point we know little enough about the case to make an informed judgement impossible. So why don’t we take a break from screaming until he’s found innocent or guilty and THEN roast him or not. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/89 "2004-10-14T14:09:24Z")
Whore is a loaded word. It offends me. It makes me wonder how a person who uses that word can truly believe in gender equality. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/90 "2004-10-14T14:11:57Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > There’s a word for this. There’s also a rule against accusing people of it. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/91 "2004-10-14T14:17:29Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > _Before_ the sexual harassment suit was filed, BO’R filed a suit against the Fox producer and her attorneys, alleging blackmail. > > [Link](http://drudgereport.com/fox.htm). > > So, did the producer try to get money from BO’R before she filed the suit? “Give me $60 million or I’ll go public?” Was this an attempt to settle quietly or extortion? And did BO’R, knowing this suit was coming, just try to get in the first punch? Given that O’Reilly offers no actual evidence in his complaint, that a request for 60 million dollars would be an absurd one for any real lawyer to make, and that it appears that this woman has tapes, I would guess that this is an attempt by O’Reilly and Fox to intimidate her out of dropping her lawsuit. In he own complaint, BO’R is quoted in detail as raving about exactly what he’s do to any woman who tried to sue him…how he has Roger Ailes and Fox News on his side, how he has more money and can hire better lawyers, and how he would make any woman who complained seem “evil” and unstable. Note that this word “evil” is exactly the one he’s currently using on his website. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/92 "2004-10-14T14:37:40Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Whore is a loaded word. It offends me. It makes me wonder how a person who uses that word can truly believe in gender equality. It’s just another word for prostitute. How is it a loaded word and why does it offend you? ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/93 "2004-10-14T14:48:46Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > Yes. **Diogenes** sure stands alone as a partisan. Especially among the crowd taking part in this discussion. Cite, please. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/94 "2004-10-14T16:22:52Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > It’s way too early to assume the legal question of guilt–that’s for the courts to decide. But, c’mon, it’s only human to speculate. It’s not unheard of for a man in a powerful position to abuse his authority, and O’Reilly certainly seems to be the kind of egotistical jerk who would sexually harrass a woman if he thought he could do so with impunity. > > So my verdict is: let’s see. Maybe he did it, maybe not, but it’s not out of character for O’Reilly to behave boorishly. That’s the most sensible thing I’ve read in this whole thread. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/95 "2004-10-14T16:37:23Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > What the fuck are you talking about? Your posts in this thread alone counter anything lame I’ve said on the conservative side in other threads. Don’t you fucking wish. 😛 Sam ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/96 "2004-10-14T16:51:15Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Some of those converstations are extremely deatiled and they’re not characterized as being being paraphrases. They look like transcriptions. > > I bet this woman does have tapes. > > O’Reilly constant rants and threats against people who cross him sound pretty believable too. > > To steal a line from **'lucy** , Dear Universe, I know I haven’t been a good pantheist, but please, please, please let there be tapes. I have to agree, reading TSG’s copies of the complaint. Either these are transcripts of tapes, or the plaintiff has an extrememly vivid imagination mascarading as photographic memory. What’s the legality, BTW, of taping incriminating phone conversations when the offender is unaware of it? I can’t remember the details, but it may only be an issue if the call is being made from points across state lines. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/97 "2004-10-14T17:04:58Z")
**slacker:** > [@](#): > > Am I getting wooshed here? I’m a Democrat, and he’s never phone sexed me. 😕 Are you wanting to have phone sex with him? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/98 "2004-10-14T17:18:33Z")
Dunno if this has any relevancwe, but accoding to TSG, she worked for CNN between stints at Fox. During that time, her supervisor at CNN was fired for sexual harassment. I can’t decide whther this makes her claim more or less believable. ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/99 "2004-10-14T17:23:42Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > Dunno if this has any relevancwe, but accoding to TSG, she worked for CNN between stints at Fox. During that time, her supervisor at CNN was fired for sexual harassment. > > I can’t decide whther this makes her claim more or less believable. Depends. Did the CNN supervisor get fired over _her_ complaints, or somebody else’s? If the latter, she may just have shitty luck. If the former, there could be a troubling pattern. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/100 "2004-10-14T17:40:34Z")
> [@stpauler](#): > > Wow, umm, point 81 is umm…Ew… I gotta wash that thought outta my head. > [@The Smoking Gun](#): > > 1. During the course of Defendant Bill O’Reilly’s sexual rant, it became clear that he was using the vibrator on himself, and that he ejaculated. Plantiff was repulsed. Aren’t we all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150.md?page=6)