# Could this film director be a bigger idiot?

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**Created:** [May 24, 2003, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211 "2003-05-24T11:09:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/1 "2003-05-24T11:09:25Z")

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At first I felt sorry for him …

[Brown Bunny’ boos may drive director out of moviemaking - Gallo was booed at Cannes event](http://msnbc.com/news/917561.asp?0bl=-0)

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> CANNES, France, May 23 — U.S. director Vincent Gallo is so hurt by the scathing reaction to his film “The Brown Bunny,” that he has vowed to make it his last. “I’ll never make another movie again. I mean it,” Gallo said after his road movie had a disastrous reception at the Cannes film festival and he was booed at a press conference

Until I read excerpts from an interview he had done at Cannes -

[Bad boy Vincent treats festival to Gallo humour](http://film.guardian.co.uk/cannes/story/0,13266,961100,00.html)

I’m not going to quote from this interview. It has to be read in full to be believed.  
I’m not familar with his work except for “Buffalo 66” which was sort of amusing in a really creepy and depressing way. Is this guy so insanely talented he can afford to behave like this or is he just a lightweight with an extraordinary degree of self regard.

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/2 "2003-05-24T12:55:32Z")

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Well, I can think of one still bigger idiot – Chloe Sevigny. What was she thinking?!?

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/3 "2003-05-24T13:02:18Z")

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What a jerk.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/4 "2003-05-24T17:00:43Z")

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Roger Ebert calls it [“The worst film in the history of the festival.”](http://www.suntimes.com/output/entertainment/cst-ftr-cannes22.html)

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/5 "2003-05-24T18:47:03Z")

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So, obviously he _wasn’t_ acting in _Buffalo 66_! He and Michael Moore should do a film together.

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/6 "2003-05-24T19:23:25Z")

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> “If my film is not comprehensible to people then I have failed in my purpose. I am disappointed that once again, what I like is unpopular.

You got it, Vince. You’re a beacon to humanity, holding your lantern of enlightenment out to draw us from the swamps of our inconsequential existence.

And that hideous metaphor is still better than the Brown Bunny.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/7 "2003-05-24T21:48:10Z")

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Wow. He seems like a 100% nutjob. I’m almost interested to see this thing, it looks so awful… then again, maybe not.

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> He and Michael Moore should do a film together.

Wha?

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/8 "2003-05-24T22:38:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Marley23 \*  
> \*\*Wow. He seems like a 100% nutjob. I’m almost interested to see this thing, it looks so awful… then again, maybe not.  
> Wha? \*\*

MM’s made a bit of an ass out himself of late. There was an incident at a bookstore signing, and then there’s the angry outburst he made at the Oscars about the war, and a few other things that slip my mind at the moment. If you do a search on his name, you’ll come up with a boatload of threads about his recent antics.

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**Author:** ![eno801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c2a13f/32.png) [@eno801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eno801)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/9 "2003-05-24T22:39:38Z")

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i never liked him til i saw buffalo 66 . this kinda make me want to see the film he’s a nutjob allright , but he’s a cool nutjob in my book. i wouldn’t mind meeeting the fellow.

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/10 "2003-05-24T22:48:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Exapno Mapcase \*  
> \*\*Roger Ebert calls it [“The worst film in the history of the festival.”](http://www.suntimes.com/output/entertainment/cst-ftr-cannes22.html) \*\*

IMDb currently ranks it 0.1 worse then Manos, Hands of Fate. Of course that’s with only 13 votes.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/11 "2003-05-24T23:33:13Z")

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Umm… one thing I didn’t quite grasp until I read some of the responses to this thread and looked up more links for this film, is that I’m getting the impression that [Chloe Sevigny](http://www.chloesevigny.com/films_page4.html) gave him an explicit, _for real_, on screen, blow job. This isn’t true is it? I mean she’s not quite a top “A” list actress, but IIRC she’s been in some fairly meaty, mainstream roles in major motion pictures. I mean there’s a limit to how well you can fake something isn’t there? Has any doper seen this film that can comment on the fake/no fake aspect.

The first link seems to take it for granted but the second seems like he’s playing a little cute with it, ie "Thank you for wondering if it was real or not. You must have been impressed.”

[HOW DOES HE DO IT? Vincent Gallo gets oral sex from Chloe Sevigny… on film!](http://hollywoodbitchslap.com/hbs.cgi?news)

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> Not content with having us all scratching our heads wondering why Christina Ricci would have found him attractive in Buffalo '66, Vincent Gallo’s new film, Brown Bunny, takes the ‘I don’t get it’ cries a step louder when Chloe Sevigny doesn’t only give him oral sex in the film - SHE GIVES HIM ORAL SEX ON FILM! Yes, that’s right, it’s a regular on-screen salami party, and nothing is left to the imagination because she’s actually… you know. Doing it.

[Film scandal over graphic sex scene](http://www.msnbc.com/news/916542.asp?0sl=-20)

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> GALLO, SITTING WITH co-star Chloe Sevigny at a packed news conference, said of their sex scene together that leaves nothing to the imagination: “We were very private in the room. We had the camera on remote.”
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> Gallo, who plays the part of a motorbike rider who can never get over the love of his life, said the scene was artistically acceptable.
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> “When I had the idea in the script, I couldn’t imagine it any other way,” he said. “I was not driven by concepts of eroticism, pornography or scandal.”
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> He told journalists: “Thank you for wondering if it was real or not. You must have been impressed.”
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> Sevigny admitted “It was the most personal film I have ever made — very intense.”

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2003, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/12 "2003-05-25T00:26:41Z")

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Worse than _Manos_?!?! Wow-that must be a REALLY sucky movie!  
:eek:

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**Author:** ![dinahmoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@dinahmoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dinahmoe)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2003, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/13 "2003-05-25T01:37:00Z")

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Hee hee! “sucky movie.” Yep:)

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2003, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/14 "2003-05-25T01:42:22Z")

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[quote]  
there’s the angry outburst he made at the Oscars about the war, and a few other things that slip my mind at the moment.

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For whatever it’s worth, what he said at the Oscars was a planned speech. He delivered almost identical comments at other awards shows. He’s doing his thing. I mean, I’m not saying you have to like it of course.

Heh, not to count myself in this number, I’m sure any number of our posters here would embarrass themselves by making an awful movie if they could use it as an excuse to get a blowjob from Chloe Sevigny. 😉

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2003, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/15 "2003-05-25T01:43:29Z")

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:smack:

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2003, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/16 "2003-05-25T02:04:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by eno801 \*  
> \*\*i never liked him til i saw buffalo 66 . this kinda make me want to see the film he’s a nutjob allright , but he’s a cool nutjob in my book. i wouldn’t mind meeeting the fellow. \*\*

You might want to read his take on “fat, cheap Jews” and how reheads and blacks people must be attracted to each other beause they “smell compatible” etc. and re-think that. This guy is a piece of work!

[vincentgallo.com : vincent gallo’s musical history](http://www.vincentgallo.com/music/)

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> My first band. The Blue Mood. A fat Jew named Mark Suchman on vocals. A Sephardic Jew, poorly named Irwin Ashkanasi, who was ugly and couldn’t play a note but had a brand new two channel amp and a basement, miming rhythm guitar with his amp volume turned off. An already drinking eleven year old redheaded Irishman named Keith Ice on guitar. By the way, did you ever notice the smell of redheads? I think that’s why a lot of redhead girls have Black boyfriends. They smell compatible. Anyway, Keith could really play guitar. He didn’t have his own amp so he played through the extra channel of Irwin’s brand new amplifier. I was nine. I played drums which I acquired from another Jew friend by trading his parents my cleaning, gardening and handyman skills for the summer. Along with the drums, I got a brace face blow job from my Jew friend’s fat older sister. It was my first one. I also fingered her. It was a cheap drum set bought by cheap Jews, but it made sound and I loved it.

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**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2003, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/17 "2003-05-25T13:21:45Z")

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> _originally posted by Marley23_
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> > He and Michael Moore should do a film together.
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> Wha?

Michael Moore’s been disagreeing with the US President lately, which is against the law or something over there. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2003, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/18 "2003-05-25T13:40:07Z")

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Technically speaking, it’s only against the law if the President is Republican. If the President is a Democrat then it is the mandatory duty of every citizen to villify him. 😃

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2003, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/19 "2003-05-25T21:39:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gex gex \*  
> \*\*Wha?

Michael Moore’s been disagreeing with the US President lately, which is against the law or something over there. :rolleyes: \*\*  
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I don’t give a rat’s ass if he agrees with the President or not (I didn’t vote for the Shrub in '00 and ain’t gonna vote for him in '04), what he did was in poor taste, as evidenced by the reactions of the other celebrities at the Oscars, many of whom _opposed_ the war in Iraq.

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**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2003, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/20 "2003-05-26T06:47:58Z")

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So has Gallo passed Crispin Glover on The Wacko Actor scale? He sounds like he’s headed for Klaus Kinski territory.

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