# Could this film director be a bigger idiot? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 24, 2003, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211 "2003-05-24T11:09:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2003, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/21 "2003-05-26T06:56:18Z")
> [@](#): > > as evidenced by the reactions of the other celebrities at the Oscars, many of whom opposed the war in Iraq. The celeb reactions I saw ranged from unconcerned to agreement. I don’t know if it’s true that it was stagehands with mics - though it sorta sounded that way - but the booing was NOT from most of the crowd. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2003, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/22 "2003-05-26T07:26:55Z")
Didn’t Gallo threaten to beat up a reviewer who panned _Buffalo 66_? Anyway, I took the comparison to Moore to mean two guys whose opinions of themselves far outweighed their actual talents. ---
**Author:** ![Epistaxis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ebca7d/32.png) [@Epistaxis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epistaxis)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2003, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/23 "2003-05-26T09:54:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Marley23 \* > \*\*The celeb reactions I saw ranged from unconcerned to agreement. I don’t know if it’s true that it was stagehands with mics - though it sorta sounded that way - but the booing was NOT from most of the crowd. \*\* LOL… we found one on his payroll! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2003, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/24 "2003-05-26T09:58:29Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Tuckerfan_ > I don’t give a rat’s ass if he agrees with the President or not (I didn’t vote for the Shrub in '00 and ain’t gonna vote for him in '04), what he did was in poor taste, as evidenced by the reactions of the other celebrities at the Oscars, many of whom opposed the war in Iraq. Yes, because if there’s ever a time and place where it is inappropriate to express a controversial opinion, it’s when you are being given an award for how well you express controversial opinions. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2003, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/25 "2003-05-26T10:03:52Z")
> [@](#): > > Yes, because if there’s ever a time and place where it is inappropriate to express a controversial opinion, it’s when you are being given an award for how well you express controversial opinions. At least he could express his controversial opinion that he already expressed in the film that he was receiving an award for. If he wants to rant about Bush, let him go make a “documentary” about the war. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2003, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/26 "2003-05-26T14:49:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by widdershins \* > \*\*So has Gallo passed Crispin Glover on The Wacko Actor scale? He sounds like he’s headed for Klaus Kinski territory. \*\* What did Crispin Glover do to make himself known as a wacko? ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2003, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/27 "2003-05-26T18:10:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Big Bad Voodoo Lou \* > \*\*What did Crispin Glover do to make himself known as a wacko? \*\* Very, _VERY_ bizarre behavior as Dave Letterman’s guest, including trying to karate kick Letterman in the head. He later claimed he was appearing “in character” to promote the film he was working on. He also gives truly strange interviews on occasion. ---
**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/28 "2003-05-27T07:27:31Z")
According to an interview with Glover in _Entertainment Weekly_ when the remake of _Willard_ came out. Glover developed a “rep” in Hollywood after he sued Steven Spielberg and Robert Zemeckis over the unauthorized use of unused footage of him from the first _Back To The Future_ combined with an actor in prostetic makeup when he refused to do the second film in the series. He has also been working on a film called _What Is It?_ since 1995. The film is reportedly very surreal and most of the cast is made up of people born with Down’s Syndrome. There have been concerns about what kind of light those people will be portrayed in the film. Glover has also released several very odd books, an album, and sometimes presents strange slide shows, including one with images from his in progress film, _What Is It?_ ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/29 "2003-05-27T13:51:02Z")
For the sake of completeness, these [quotes] ([http://www.msnbc.com/news/917561.asp?cp1=1#BODY](http://www.msnbc.com/news/917561.asp?cp1=1#BODY)) : > [@](#): > > “If my film is not comprehensible to people then I have failed in my purpose. I am disappointed that once again, what I like is unpopular. I can only apologize to the people who feel they have wasted their time,” he said. > [@](#): > > “It is a disaster of a film and it was a waste of time. I apologize to the financiers, but it was never my intention to make a pretentious film, a self-indulgent film, a useless film, an unengaging film,” he said. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/30 "2003-05-27T15:28:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by widdershins \* > \*\*According to an interview with Glover in _Entertainment Weekly_ when the remake of _Willard_ came out. Glover developed a “rep” in Hollywood after he sued Steven Spielberg and Robert Zemeckis over the unauthorized use of unused footage of him from the first _Back To The Future_ combined with an actor in prostetic makeup when he refused to do the second film in the series. > > He has also been working on a film called _What Is It?_ since 1995. The film is reportedly very surreal and most of the cast is made up of people born with Down’s Syndrome. There have been concerns about what kind of light those people will be portrayed in the film. > > Glover has also released several very odd books, an album, and sometimes presents strange slide shows, including one with images from his in progress film, _What Is It?_ \*\* Crispin Glover is my hero, and one of the bright spots of one of the best films of all time, _Dead Man._ He’s done several small films, IIRC, with Down Syndrome actors. And a bizarre little film called _The Beaver Trilogy_, with him and Sean Penn playing the same role in two different takes on the same real-life person–Groovin’ Larry–is one of my favorite little bits of film esoterica. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Elvis_Rojo)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/31 "2003-05-27T17:06:33Z")
I’d just like to back up **amp** here in wondering if anyone has any knowledge as to whether or not the blow job in the movie is real or not. It just doesn’t seem like any actress that doesn’t work outside of porn would engage in such a thing. Even if it’s simulated with a prosthetic, it still seems rather daring, but an actual bj…just doesn’t seem like it could happen. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/32 "2003-05-27T17:46:08Z")
Especially when the actress, Chloe Sevigny, is a reasonably successful and well-regarded Hollywood mainstay. She does not have to debase herself to get work. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/33 "2003-05-27T17:59:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \* > \*\*At least he could express his controversial opinion that he already expressed in the film that he was receiving an award for. If he wants to rant about Bush, let him go make a “documentary” about the war. \*\* He’s already making a 9-11 documentary, i’m sure an Iraq war documentary is next, followed by an Iranian war documentary, the 2004 election fiasco documentary, and a documentary about how Bush’s police state caused him to be imprisoned for 20 years for daring to disagree. And i heard the BJ was faked. ---
**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/34 "2003-05-27T18:41:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RickJay \* > \*\*Especially when the actress, Chloe Sevigny, is a reasonably successful and well-regarded Hollywood mainstay. She does not have to debase herself to get work. \*\* Chloe Sevigny has done a lot of her work in non-mainstream films; her first picture was “Kids,” and she was in “Gummo” and “The Last Days of Disco” as well as some other below-the Hollywood-radar fare. I’m surprised about this, but not terribly shocked; I’ve seen her interviewed and she’s a smart, sharp woman. I’m sure she read the script and decided it was a worthwhile project. (Many, many things can go wrong between the “reading a script” stage and the “watching a movie” stage. Apparently, all of them went wrong here.) My impression of Gallo, however, has just about turned a complete 180 on this. I loved “Buffalo '66,” and thought Gallo was one of the best things in “Arizona Dream,” but after reading those interviews I think he’s either a monumental jerk or the world’s greatest whoosher. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/35 "2003-05-27T19:05:59Z")
In fact, jackelope, she is on record as saying she agreed to do the movie BEFORE she read the script. Possibly not a smart move. ---
**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/36 "2003-05-27T20:03:36Z")
Really? I find it hard to believe that she could agree to do a film, then find out that it had a hardcore fellatio scene, and still be contractually locked into it. But I’m not a Hollywood person; what do I know? Ebert, by the way, has a [followup article](http://www.suntimes.com/output/eb-feature/cst-nws-ebertside25.html) which paints Gallo in a much more sympathetic light. Take it for what it’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/37 "2003-05-27T20:08:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > \*\*Yes, because if there’s ever a time and place where it is inappropriate to express a controversial opinion, it’s when you are being given an award for how well you express controversial opinions. \*\* Yes- “there’s too much gun violence in the US” was a very controversial topic (counterpoint: “there’s not enough gun violence in the US”), as was “shutting down the car plant in Flint wasn’t good for Flint’s economy”. And that well-written acceptance speech with the oh-so-subtle jabs expressed controversial opinions about the current administration I’d never heard before. As for Gallo, I can’t find a cite but I read somewhere that he used to hide porn all around Buffalo with “single servings” of lotion in order to maintain his habit of wacking off 15 times a day. I guess it has nothing to do with the OP, just wanted to add that to the “what’s the deal with this Gallo guy?” stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/38 "2003-05-27T21:16:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \* > \*\*If he wants to rant about Bush, let him go make a “documentary” about the war. \*\* As the four-armed Martian relates, he’s already working on it. Supposedly he has videotape of the Bush family having dinner with the bin Ladens. Oh, and Gallo’s a loon. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/39 "2003-05-27T23:40:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Supposedly he has videotape of the Bush family having dinner with the bin Ladens. It’s not impossible, I suppose: the Bin Laden family and GHW Bush are both part of the Carlyle Group. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Elvis_Rojo)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2003, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211/40 "2003-05-28T00:31:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RickJay \* > \*\*In fact, jackelope, she is on record as saying she agreed to do the movie BEFORE she read the script. > > Possibly not a smart move. \*\* Like **jackalope** said, I can’t see where an actress/actor would be obligated under any contract to suddenly have to perform a real sex act on film just because they agreed to do the movie. With script re-writes, it could be an easy trap to get Cindy Crawford to sign up for a children’s movie, then say they’ve decided to take it on a different route, and she now has to get gangbanged by three men wearing clown outfits. I know a lot of actors/actresses have nudity clauses in their contracts to help prevent this, but even those that don’t have the right to say “no” and cancel a contract and walk off a project if the director/producer tries to force them to do something. It’s pretty much akin to sexual harrassment in the work place. Anyone know any more of the legal side of this? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-film-director-be-a-bigger-idiot/177211.md?page=3)