# Could you actually make bread from bones?

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**Created:** [August 28, 2008, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-actually-make-bread-from-bones/461495 "2008-08-28T01:12:14Z")\
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Like giants do in fairy tales. Could you actually do that with appropriate equipment?

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-actually-make-bread-from-bones/461495/2 "2008-08-28T01:24:37Z")

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[Bone Meal?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonemeal)

Bone meal has no gluten or other yeasty, bready things. All you’d have is nasty cooked bone meal. [You can add some small amount of bone meal to bread flour](http://journals.cambridge.org/download.php?file=%2FBJN%2FBJN11_02%2FS0007114557000288a.pdf&code=85ef3d0d4ce78d34a467b20ce538f628) but not sure how that tastes.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-actually-make-bread-from-bones/461495/3 "2008-08-28T01:25:57Z")

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I don’t see why you couldn’t put some bonemeal into the dough, but I’m not sure an all-bone loaf would work. Why don’t you try one cup of bonemeal in your regular recipe, and see how that works? (Note: I do not advocate the killing of any Englishmen, for breadmaking purposes or otherwise.)

To be fair to the giants, though, I don’t think they ever actually make such loaves, much less eat them; they just threaten.

ETA: Drat you, **astro**! Faster on the submit button, with a link no less.

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No.

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With no sugars for the yeast to process, you would not get any CO2. So all-bone meal would have to rise from the action of eggs or (more likely) baking soda (or am I off on that?). In any case, at some point it is no longer bread.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-actually-make-bread-from-bones/461495/6 "2008-08-28T02:21:13Z")

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Well, you couldn’t make yeast-risen bread, but you could make a flatbread. Like a tortilla or an Indian chapatti, patted out into a thin cake and baked on a hot stone. Wet bone meal will cake up like a mudpie, and you could squish it into something bake-able.

So yeah, the giant _could_ have ground his bones to make his bread, as long as by “bread” you don’t insist on yeast bread.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-actually-make-bread-from-bones/461495/7 "2008-08-28T02:24:41Z")

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What about the nourishing marrowbone jelly? The giant didn’t specify which part of the bone he’d be using.

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[QUOTE=Paul in Saudi]  
With no sugars for the yeast to process, you would not get any CO2. So all-bone meal would have to rise from the action of eggs or (more likely) baking soda (or am I off on that?). In any case, at some point it is no longer bread.  
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Could you add some sort of sugar product for the yeast to act upon, and have… _sweet_ bone-bread?

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-actually-make-bread-from-bones/461495/9 "2008-08-28T10:47:23Z")

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You will need some protien to coagulate. I think you would just be adding bone to bread mix since I don’t think that the bone will do anything essential in the bread process.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-actually-make-bread-from-bones/461495/10 "2008-08-28T13:22:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Duck Duck Goose]  
Well, you couldn’t make yeast-risen bread, but you could make a flatbread. Like a tortilla or an Indian chapatti, patted out into a thin cake and baked on a hot stone. Wet bone meal will cake up like a mudpie, and you could squish it into something bake-able.

So yeah, the giant _could_ have ground his bones to make his bread, as long as by “bread” you don’t insist on yeast bread.  
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The problem is that bonemeal won’t have the cohesion of gluten-filled wheat paste, or even starch-covered tortilla/polenta/risotto. So with bonemeal and water you wouldn’t get a chapati; just a pile of bonemeal that falls apart as soon as the heat dries it out again (like a dried-out sandcastle).

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-actually-make-bread-from-bones/461495/11 "2008-08-28T17:06:49Z")

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Well, if he’s going to grind up fresh bones (because the story doesn’t actually say, “I’ll steam your bones, and _then_ grind them”, it just says “I’ll grind your bones”), presumably the marrow would be in with it, which is fat, which would probably serve to glue it together into a reasonable simulacrum of a chapatti.

I still think it could work.

I love this place. 😃

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[QUOTE=astro]  
[Bone Meal?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonemeal)

Bone meal has no gluten or other yeasty, bready things. All you’d have is nasty cooked bone meal. [You can add some small amount of bone meal to bread flour](http://journals.cambridge.org/download.php?file=%2FBJN%2FBJN11_02%2FS0007114557000288a.pdf&code=85ef3d0d4ce78d34a467b20ce538f628) but not sure how that tastes.  
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As to texture, rather than taste, it would be rather gritty. Ever taste a dog biscuit?

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-actually-make-bread-from-bones/461495/13 "2008-08-28T18:37:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Duck Duck Goose]  
I still think it could work.

I love this place. 😃  
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Given the other advanced experimental work other GQ threads have prompted, surely we can get a volunteer to make the test?

I would, however, encourage the use of beef soup bones rather than the bones of an Englishmun.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-actually-make-bread-from-bones/461495/14 "2008-08-28T18:44:12Z")

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While the marrow could contain some protien to form the bread, I don’t think it is enough to compensate for the large quantity of essentially useless calcium phosphate powder.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-actually-make-bread-from-bones/461495/15 "2008-08-28T19:50:43Z")

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Maybe an egg matrix, then, with some form of acid-and-base leavening? Although that might be more of a fluffy, gritty omelette than “bread”, per se.

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[QUOTE=Quercus]  
The problem is that bonemeal won’t have the cohesion of gluten-filled wheat paste, or even starch-covered tortilla/polenta/risotto. So with bonemeal and water you wouldn’t get a chapati; just a pile of bonemeal that falls apart as soon as the heat dries it out again (like a dried-out sandcastle).  
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At best, you might get a very crumbly bone-cookie.

Bone meal has been used to adulterate flour in the past (not sure if this was the content of **astro** ’s link - because it isn’t working for me)

[http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/32/3/340](http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/32/3/340)

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-actually-make-bread-from-bones/461495/17 "2008-08-28T20:01:39Z")

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If you are gonna try this, be sure to use bone-meal not contaminated with lead or bovine spongiform encephalopathy organisms!!!

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“Bread” used to have a more broader meaning: A piece or morsel of food, entymologically related to the word “break”.

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I’m normally very much on board for culinary experiments, but this one does nothing for me.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-actually-make-bread-from-bones/461495/20 "2008-08-28T20:23:48Z")

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[QUOTE=ouryL]  
“Bread” used to have a more broader meaning: A piece or morsel of food, entymologically related to the word “break”.  
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Interestingly, ‘meat’ was once similarly generic.

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