Libertarian wrote:
Wow! I had no idea that I was posting as douglips too. I’d better get myself checked into that Multiple Personality Disorder clinic right away!
OK, so this is going to be a few minutes after tracer’s post, thus proving that tracer and I are the same person. But, I like my happy little world, so I’m going to continue posting under the two personalities as I see fit.
Libertarian spake thusly:
This sounds remarkably like taking umbrage at my implication that one must put aside logic to have faith. Please note this statement from the OP:
Note that it is Adam (aka ARG) who makes that implication first, and my response was completely to that point. Please reserve righteous indignation for those who deserve it. 
As for the typos (I counted a minimum of three once I was awake this morning) please note the time stamp and try to understand. Mea culpa - I apologize to all, as I try to maintain a high standard of spelling and cApiTALizaTion. kewl!
Libertarian says in a later post:
Excellent. I just take that a step further and believe that humans are so much more powerful than god that it is we who created him in our image.
I apologize to both douglips and tracer. I’ve never used a “sic” notation until this morning, and I got what I deserved for it. I think when I saw the implication that theists abandon all logic, my brain just went “ping”. That’s what happens when the brain takes over the heart. Especially for the Christian.
Tracer/Douglips…the doctor will see you, right after Gaudere, Andros, and Clark K. are through with his/her session. Unfortunately, he’s running a bit behind… an emergency case with about six or seven distinct personalities, most of which are trolls. :eek:
A lovely old canard (and yes, I know I didn’t quote verbatim). Like most such sayings, there’s some truth in it. I am certain that Adam, Jon, Lib, Lauralee, Mike, RT, and I see God in different ways, and that how we envision Him depends a lot on our own lives and experiences, the relationship we had with our fathers, etc. No question about it. But that is not convincing evidence regarding the presence or absence of some entity who is alleged to have created the universe and/or to love us. It simply states what we are equipped to perceive or not perceive about said entity if he exists. It’s a highly refined variation on post hoc ergo proper hoc. Anybody arguing the affirmative in a “Does God exist?” debate needs to take into account his/her own psychology. (As, IMHO, do those who argue the other side!) But having done so, s/he needs to form as objective an opinion as possible on whether the case can be made discounting his/her psychological propensities.
There is highly unlikely that I could ever believe in a God or Gods under my own power. If Marduk appeared to me in my sleep, I’d lay off the acid. When Hera appears, I’ll quite smoking the sweat leaf. If Jesus trots down my hallway, I’ll back off the shrooms. If that damn Thoth starts lecturing me, no more alcohol. And I’ll swear off spicy food when the Dark Lord demands my service.
I suppose the repeated appearance of a God coupled with intense sensory input, would facilitate a belief. Never one brief incident.
It is most likely that once I believed, I would start plotting to destroy that God. They’re cocky bastards, after all.
Hell is Other People.
Links right here:
[ul][li]The Atheist Religion[/li]The Atheist (Non)Religion, Part 2[/ul]
ARG220
I wish everyone would stop this silly debate about my existence! Why is it so hard to believe in me? I have already posted numerous times to this board. That should be sufficient proof for any hardcore skeptic.
Whadda I gotta do, raise the dead? Turn water into wine?
hmmmmm… I do know how to make money disappear into a G-string…
Glitch:
Here are the prayers.
Per our agreement, these are all separate prayers. They are short. They are each given to me to give to you, I believe, by the Holy Spirit. Each prayer is to be prayed in order and only in its own time. With that in mind, I couldn’t think of any other way to give you all the prayers at once, so they are encrypted. You are to decrypt them one at a time, just before you say them, and on your honor you will not unscramble them ahead of time. That is my understanding of the Holy Spirit’s conviction in this matter. God, to put it metaphorically, doesn’t want you knowing from each morning to evening what is around the corner.
Be alone when you say them and afterward, spend a few minutes contemplating them. Then go on your way, being diligently mindful of each particular prayer for the duration of the morning or evening when you say them.
Edlyn proofread these for me. God bless her for that. I’ve supplied keys for you at the top, middle, and bottom. God go with you in your search for Him.
He has inspired in me, along with the prayers, this brief message for you: “He who finds me has found himself.”
ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
First Morning
GSRH RH NB KILNRHV GL BLF LM NB SLMLI. R DROO YV KVIUVXG GLWZB.
First Evening
R RMELPV GSV MZNV LU BLFI HLM. GVZXS NV SLD GL ULITREV.
Second Morning
GSRH RH NB KILNRHV GL BLF LM NB SLMLI. R DROO GIB GL YV KVIUVXG GLWZB.
Second Evening
R RMELPV GSV MZNV LU BLFI HLM. GVZXS NV SLD GL ZXXVKG ULHTREVMVHH.
Third Morning
GSRH RH NB KILNRHV GL BLF LM NB SLMLI. R XZMMLG YV KVIUVXG GLWZB.
Third Evening
R RMELPV GSV MZNV LU BLFI HLM. GVZXS NV SLD GL YV KVIUVXG.
Fourth Morning
BLF ZIV NB ZWELXZGV. BLF ZIV NB ZOOB. BLF ZIV NB HVIEZMG.
ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
Fourth Evening
R ZN BLFI PMRTSG. R ZN BLFI HZNFIZR. R ZN BLFI HGFWVMG.
Fifth Morning
R RMELPV GSV MZNV LU BLFI HLM. GVZXS NV SLD GL OLEV.
Fifth Evening
R RMELPV GSV MZNV LU BLFI HLM. GVZXS NV SLD GL YV OLEVW.
Sixth Morning
R RMELPV GSV MZNV LU BLFI HLM. GLWZB R DROO OLEV LGSVIH ZH BLF OLEV NV.
Sixth Evening
GSRH RH NB KILNRHV GL BLF LM NB SLMLI. GLNLIILD R DROO TREV BLF NB YVORVU ZG OVZHG FMGRO VEVMRMT.
Seventh Morning
GSRH RH NB KILNRHV GL BLF LM NB SLMLI. R DROO MLG OVZEV BLF ZTZRM. BLF ZIV NV ZMW R ZN BLF.
Seventh Evening
R RMELPV GSV MZNV LU BLFI HLM. GVZXS NV SLD GL HVV RM MVD DZBH. TREV NV UZRGS.
ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
Shouldn’t this have been done via email? I have the incredible urge to decode this message, and tell Glitch what it says.
Lib: This just seems very personal to be displayed on the Net, especially if you feel that the Holy Spirit designed these prayers to be for Glitch only.
Something is not right here.
Adam
“Life is hard…but God is good”
Perhaps glitch can just not read this thread until after he’s done, that way no matter who posts the spoiler he’ll be immune.
I also have a great desire to decrypt, but would not post the results until after Glitch has performed his duties - or perhaps not at all.
Arg:
Our agreement was that I post them here. And there is, after all, precedence for the Holy Spirit’s inspiration being shared with the whole world.
Glitch is an intelligent man, and will know that spoilers could conceivably follow the post. He is also an honorable man of great internal strength, and he will ignore them. He will copy and past only the prayers themselves with the keys.
Besides, that will make it easier for him to convert them to Courier or some other nonproportional font, which will allign the keys’ letters and make it much easier to decrypt.
I’m just saying don’t worry about Glitch. He’ll do the right thing, and he’ll do it the right way. I have as much confidence in that as the Centurion had that Jesus healed his servant. He won’t let anyone spoil anything.
Lib: You do my great honor, thank you. The idea of a spoiler being present hadn’t occured to me. In light of that, I will NOT be reading any further posts in this thread until the end of the 14th prayer, so feel free to decrypt them, post them, and discuss away. I have copied the encrypted messages and will decrypt the first tomorrow morning.
Testing. Testing. Ahem Glitch, woo hoo! You listening? No? You sure you’re not listening? (Lemme see if I can draw him out of hiding.) Hey, Glitch, your sister wears army boots!
I do wonder how Glitch is doing on his first morning.
ARG, didn’t God tell you to stay off of this board? Did He change His mind? Was He wrong? Or are you disobeying orders from High Command?
Now you all may get on with the business of making complete asses of yourselves.
PS to Adam: You’ve cost the next idiot who bangs on my door selling Jesus a very bad day. I know it’s not fair, and I really wish it was you I could chase down the driveway with a baseball bat, but sometimes you have to settle for second best.
Thank you so much for not having visited the Atheist Religion thread.
The pleasure was all mine.
RonaldBarnhardt: We’d like to invite you to kiss Hank’s ass with us.
Lib:
The third letter in the last word of the second evening prayer is off. Sorry to nitpick 
If you came up with that yourself, very nice (even if it was with the help of the Holy Spirit). I’m interested in seeing what Glitch has to say at the end of the week.
PeeQueue
It’s doubtful this thread will still be alive in two weeks. Can I ask that David B save it somehow, even if it’s dormant, and repost it then? And maybe Lib could post the translations of his prayers on it then, too, so we don’t have to decode them.
Looking forward to hearing of Glitch’s revelation: Accept Mallow into your life, and be saved!