# Could you enjoy having sex with someone you politically despise?

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**Created:** [September 14, 2008, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544 "2008-09-14T07:59:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/21 "2008-09-14T16:17:02Z")

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Right up to the point she starts moaning “Oh Ronnie…make it morning in America for me”.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/22 "2008-09-14T16:45:25Z")

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Yes. I love the idea of corrupting a nice conservative boy.

‘‘Say it, bitch! Say it!’’  
‘‘Ohhhhh God…has no place in the governmental affairs of U.S. citizens!’’

But I agree with **as\_u\_wish**. I don’t despise people I disagree with.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/23 "2008-09-14T17:06:24Z")

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It depends. I’m fairly liberal, but not start-raving-mad Green and Pacifica Radio AmeriKKKa is EVIL! liberal. For a year, I dated a quite loyal Republican; her parents awere Republican, her grandparents were Republican, and so on. She was pro-choice and fairly liberal when it came to gays, so politics were really secondary. She’s now an elected official - yup, Republican. There’s photos of her with prominent 'Pubbies on her mantle. We still keep in touch, and debate politics along with catching up on each others lives.

An Ann Coulter or Sarah Palin-type? Nope.

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/24 "2008-09-14T17:49:28Z")

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> [@as\_u\_wish](#):
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> I see this OP as symptomatic of the disconnect I have with much of the political “debate” on the SDMB. I tend to \*\*disagree \*\*with someone politically–I don’t **despise** /hate them because of it.

Same here. My boyfriend has very different political and religious views than I do, but happily we can talk about our differences without getting hostile or disrespectful.  
I feel that there is a place for even people I disagree with in the political system.

I guess the only people whose political views I actually would despise would be someone who was a genocidal totalitarian dictator or something like that. If you want to take it to that extreme, no, I don’t see it working out. 🙂 But a garden variety person who just has really strong feelings in the opposite directions is no problem at all.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/25 "2008-09-14T18:14:44Z")

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No. But then I’m not into “just sex”. If there were an attractive man spouting right wing nonsense, my attraction-o-meter does not go off. My irritant-o-meter does. This goes double if he’s in a nice suit, good tie and has just bought me a drink.

So many people are incredibly hot until they open their mouths…

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/26 "2008-09-14T18:16:28Z")

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Could I? I have.

In addition, I think all but maybe 2 girls I’ve had sex with have been Christian, and I’m an atheist (I believe one was buddhist, one _might_ be atheist, some I know are Christian, and some I’m guessing but statistically they are probably Christians.)

Now if we’re talking celebrities, hell yes I would give Michelle Malkin the high hard one in a second. Sarah Palin and Ann Coulter I’d have to be drunk but I would definitely do it.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/27 "2008-09-14T18:37:44Z")

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I think my wife is generally wrong politically. But so what? It’s not written anywhere that she has to agree with me, and frankly I’d rather she asserted herself in such areas rather than slavishly follow my lead. It’s not like she favors solving famines by cooking babies into pies.

(And yes, I know Swift was writing ironically.)

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/28 "2008-09-15T00:01:21Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by **CairoCarol**
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> Oh, sure. “Opposites attract” and all that.
> 
> Have a mutually respectful, long-term, loving relationship, though? Probably not. I’m pretty sure I’d drive a Republican crazy pretty fast.

I agree with **CairoCarol**. I can have crazy sex with someone no matter what their beliefs. A long term, devoted relationship would not be possible though. Some differences are good but someone on the far end of the political scale is someone I couldn’t date.

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**Author:** ![Critical\_Mass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Critical\_Mass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical_Mass)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/29 "2008-09-15T01:13:54Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I think my wife is generally wrong politically.

There’s the thing that would be a huge problem with me. If I was your wife. Which would be a problem in that I’m not a woman. But I digress.

I find it wholly attractive to find a woman who disagrees with me politically and is willing to discuss it with me.

I love the debate.

However, I will never think someone is wrong simply because we disagree on something politically.

I also don’t go into a discussion absolutely certain that I’m not about to change my mind. Sometimes I learn a thing or two that causes me to rethink my position.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/30 "2008-09-15T03:18:05Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> If there were an attractive man spouting right wing nonsense, my attraction-o-meter does not go off. My irritant-o-meter does. This goes double if he’s in a nice suit, good tie and has just bought me a drink.

So well-dressed nonsense-spouters irritate you _more_ than random yutzes in grubby sweatshirts spewing the same drivel? Explain that…:dubious:

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/31 "2008-09-15T03:25:27Z")

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Oh yes, I could enjoy the sex I’m sure. I don’t fuck without being in a relationship though, at least I haven’t yet, so I don’t know if I’d get into that situation with somebody I despise. Disagree with, dislike sure… but despise? That’s a strong word.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/32 "2008-09-15T04:03:45Z")

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I’m going to dread this post in the morning but Susan Estrich. I don’t despise her but she is politically left of me. Somehow I think she would be fun in the sack. And Bill O’Reilly likes her 😉

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**Author:** ![Malienation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Malienation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malienation)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/33 "2008-09-15T04:20:25Z")

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In my younger days, yeah. Now, I don’t think so, the political climate has gotten so toxic and angry that I don’t think I’d be “up” for it, if ya know what I mean. Having said that, I also hafta admit that an old fashioned Rockefeller Republican might be doable. But there aren’t many like that around anymore.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/34 "2008-09-15T04:59:19Z")

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> [@AT\_Love](#):
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> Oh yes. If I got a hold on Tucker Carlson I would rip off that bowtie and corrupt him in every way possible. I was just thinking about this topic yesterday. I want him but I don’t like the crap coming out of his mouth.

So I was watching CNN one day a few years ago, and some guy was reporting from outdoors somewhere. He was wearing a windbreaker and a regular button-down shirt with an open neck. The wind was blowing his hair around. I said to myself, “oh, CNN has a new guy. And he’s hella cute!” And then the caption came up. It was Tucker Carlson. :eek:

I ran to the closet to get my bottle of brain bleach. But I couldn’t go through with it. :: sniff :: I’m so ashamed.\*

Anyway, I totally could have sex with someone who not only had politics that were different than my own, but was actively working to advance that agenda. I’d probably get off on it. But I’m weird like that.

And let’s not forget the famous cross-aisle political marriage of Mary Matalin and James Carville. Of course, the question is not how they managed their relationship given their differing views. The question is how she managed to voluntarily have sex with James Carville.

- Love ya, Tucker! Call me! kthxbye.

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**Author:** ![Malienation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Malienation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malienation)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/35 "2008-09-15T05:36:47Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Of course, the question is not how they managed their relationship given their differing views. The question is how she managed to voluntarily have sex with James Carville.

Carville? That’d be easy; he might not be young, but he still appears to have the body of the Marine he once was (I’ve heard he’s still a regular gymgoer). Matalin, though…that stringy old broad doesn’t look like much of a ride. You first.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/36 "2008-09-15T05:58:15Z")

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Carville and Matalin have more in common than they have differences - they are both partisan hacks. That I agree with one of them doesn’t make it less true. But I always thought that either they have a BDSM relationship or every time they have sex it’s a “grudge fuck”.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/37 "2008-09-15T06:56:41Z")

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I find the concept of politically despising someone to be incredibly myopic and pointless. I’ve had many a conversation with someone who thinks they are completely opposite my position. It doesn’t take much in the form of reasoned dialogue to point out how close people are on issues.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/38 "2008-09-15T07:14:32Z")

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Carville and Maitlin have been together forever. They were probably both a lot cuter when they first became an item. Hell, _I_ was a lot cuter when they first became an item.

I agree with the observations about not “despising” someone. In fact, I misread the OP’s questions as relating to someone “whose views you despise” because I just assumed that was the intent.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/39 "2008-09-15T13:44:24Z")

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> So well-dressed nonsense-spouters irritate you _more_ than random yutzes in grubby sweatshirts spewing the same drivel? Explain that…:dubious:

Gladly. It’s bait and switch. The grubby sweatshirt wearers are truth in advertising. The sleek $600 suit guys fool me into thinking that here is this attractive man who wants to buy me a drink. I no sooner get it to my mouth and BAM! neo-con drivel starts to spew. It’s enough to put a girl off her alcohol, I tell ya…  
😉

Thing is, I’ve never had a conversation with a Bushie or similar that didn’t end up with them displaying either contempt for a differing opinion or pity that I’m so “misguided”. Baleful irritation is not an aphrodisiac for me. YMMV.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-enjoy-having-sex-with-someone-you-politically-despise/463544/40 "2008-09-16T01:13:02Z")

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> [@Malienation](#):
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> Carville? That’d be easy; he might not be young, but he still appears to have the body of the Marine he once was (I’ve heard he’s still a regular gymgoer). Matalin, though…that stringy old broad doesn’t look like much of a ride. You first.

Body shmody! What about that terrifying hideous head?

Well, I guess that’s why they invented doggy style.

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