# Could you please stop making gay men look like screechy, hissy drama queens? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2003, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329 "2003-06-03T09:34:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/21 "2003-06-03T13:13:49Z")
“Gah! We can’t say anything offensive anymore! But it’s so much _fun!_ …What? Oh, well, if you want to get _technical_, we _can_, but someone will try to shut us up! …Oh, okay, you’re right, they can’t shut us up _per se_, they’ll just say they’re upset. Why don’t they just shut up about being upset?!” ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/22 "2003-06-03T13:20:24Z")
Matt: I believe you may have misread my post. I’m on your side of this one. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/23 "2003-06-03T13:22:56Z")
**gobear** , I apologise. Not for the first time in my life, I have let the lure of a piece of smart-alec humour cloud my judgement. It wasn’t intended as an attack, btw. I originally intended to use the familiar figure of speech and posted a revised version because it struck me as funnier. In excuse I can only say that, though _faggot_ is by no means a term of endearment in the circles I’m used to, neither is it an out-and-out _hate_ word, and since I would neither bottle someone nor hit them with a chain for the _crime_ :rolleyes: of being gay, I find it hard to remember that other people do, or what they say when they do it. Once again, I apologise for the bad word. Your moderate and reasoned response deserves nothing less. Best, M. ---
**Author:** ![Mearl\_Dox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Mearl\_Dox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mearl_Dox)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/24 "2003-06-03T13:29:57Z")
One of the things I love the most about this board is that it is completely unlike other general interest boards I’ve been to. There’s an overall lack of the kind of boorish, idiotic behavior that I find on other boards when it comes to gays or lesbians. (Heck, I won’t even mention my orientation in passing, because I know it’ll result in at least one or two assholes offering to participate or telling me how sick I am.) And I think a lot of the difference is because this board has more vocal homosexual posters who aren’t afraid to call foul when someone makes a nasty or just smartassed comment. Right on, Esprix, and matt\_mcl, and andygirl, and all the other posters who are here and queer. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/25 "2003-06-03T13:35:40Z")
**Malacandra** and **Gary Kumquat** , thank you. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/26 "2003-06-03T13:37:13Z")
It’s down to the old cultural difference (see the “cunt” thread) again. I too am chastened by **gobear’s** comments. But just to show that the word “faggot” can raise a smile in US gay circles, I quote from **Eve** in the thread I cited: > [@](#): > > I have forwarded this to several gay friends, who have all injured themselves laughing, I might add. Upon learning that “more than 10 million faggots are eaten every day in the UK,” my friend Terry is applying for a green card. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/27 "2003-06-03T13:47:09Z")
Quite aside from which, what’s wrong with being a screechy hissy drama queen anyhow? ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/28 "2003-06-03T13:55:22Z")
Don’t get me wrong, **mearlchan**. **gobear** reasonably invited me to distance myself from the kind of language associated with gay-bashing, as in for-real physical assault - and as I despise anything of the sort, I was more than happy to apologise unreservedly. The behaviour alluded to in the OP however is another kettle of fish… **jjimm** , there’s also a reference in LOtR (“The Ring Goes South”) to “the last faggot was thrown on the fire”. That gave me a chuckle the last time I read it… I hope I don’t really need to insert a disclaimer here? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/29 "2003-06-03T13:58:07Z")
I read the other thread and I don’t see where the offence came from. Maybe I’ll try and look again. ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/30 "2003-06-03T13:59:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by AHunter3 \* > \*\*Quite aside from which, what’s wrong with being a screechy hissy drama queen anyhow? \*\* Spoken by someone unfamiliar with Bobby Trendy. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mearl\_Dox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Mearl\_Dox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mearl_Dox)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/31 "2003-06-03T14:07:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Malacandra \* > \*\*Don’t get me wrong, **mearlchan**. **gobear** reasonably invited me to distance myself from the kind of language associated with gay-bashing, as in for-real physical assault - and as I despise anything of the sort, I was more than happy to apologise unreservedly. > \*\* My post wasn’t responding to your faggot comment. It was just a general response that I don’t see anything bad about Esprix’s behavior, and in fact I’d rather see overzealousness in opposing rude and homophobic remarks than see them posted all over the place. As for **jjimm’s** comment, I think the reason that was so funny is because it’s also a bit shocking. Sort of like finding out “nigger” is a food product in another language. Members of the group the word is aimed at might find it funny amongst themselves, but it really is a VERY nasty word in the US. Probably the worst word used towards gay people. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/32 "2003-06-03T15:13:03Z")
Gosh, I kind of like the word “faggot.” I especially like the variation in pronunciation one can get. My two favorites are the very clipped and the streched out “faaaa-git.” Now “fag” I don’t like. Probably because the nasal a most midwesterners give it make the word sound somehow…incomplete to my ear. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/33 "2003-06-03T16:33:28Z")
Are we finished now? Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/34 "2003-06-03T18:31:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by AHunter3 \* > \*\*Quite aside from which, what’s wrong with being a screechy hissy drama queen anyhow? \*\* Oh please… do you want that indexed? Better yet have pity on the message board, even hamsters on steroids have their limits. The OP was amusing. Didn’t get the pun though, dunno what faggot is besides a slur. By the way if Esprix could get over himself, that would be nice. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/35 "2003-06-03T19:02:04Z")
Evidently not. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/36 "2003-06-03T19:14:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*Evidently not. > > Esprix \*\* Yeah. Don’t you hate those threads that don’t end when you personally want them to. The horror. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/37 "2003-06-03T19:24:12Z")
Yes imagine what this board would be like if all threads ended when one participant was done talking. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/38 "2003-06-03T19:29:47Z")
What, exactly, was the point here? To prove him right one example at a time? Jesus Christ. Never mind that every single self-identified lesbian in the other thread agreed that lame “lesbian in a man’s body” joke was hugely offensive to them. Let’s pit **Esprix** over it anyway. Can I switch sides? The company over here sucks. I’m not gay, but I am willing to learn. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/39 "2003-06-03T19:33:59Z")
You’d better go look again Miller. For one **Cadbury-Angel** said she agreed it was stupid but not worth a pitting or a hysterical claim of hateful ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329/40 "2003-06-03T19:42:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Malacandra \* > **faggots are very often served with gravy over here** Thought they made their own. (rimshot) For a change I plan to stay out of the “one man’s drama queen is another man’s freedom fighter” discussion except for suggesting we do an FAQ with all of the offensive terms and jokes so Pit threads can be limited to “Dear USERX, please see FAQ 6.1b.” However, count me as yet another parochial Yank who only knows three definitions for “faggot” and who considers none of them edible, even with gravy. I would love to be able to get that pun but I cannot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-you-please-stop-making-gay-men-look-like-screechy-hissy-drama-queens/179329.md?page=3)