# Coulter at it again. My apologies to our Canadian friends. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 4, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007 "2004-12-04T02:17:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/41 "2004-12-04T07:09:51Z")
> [@AskNott](#): > > . Hell, she even trashed Karl Rove. Who does she like? Bill Mahr, apparently. Stranger than that, he likes _her_. Strange days. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/42 "2004-12-04T07:27:40Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > Because I despise them? > > Just to be clear…if Coulter were a left wing nutjob advocating the same thing, I’d despise them too. Damnit I skipped over this. I’m just blown away. You despise them, honestly **despise** them? That isn’t just rhetoric? If there was a person on the left who was also a wackjob, you’d despise people on the left too? You do realize that is just about the most ridiculous, least logical, most hateful ideology anybody can hold? ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/43 "2004-12-04T08:01:08Z")
If **Reeder** will allow an outside opinion first published in _The Washington Post_, I’d like to point anyone interested to think about an American in Toronto and her view on the two countries. Of course, there’s little **Reeder** can attack (even though he’s not a Reedercrat) :rolleyes: She says in the article she’s a dyed-in-the-wool “blue-statie”. If you haven’t seen it yet, check [here](http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/editorial/10326754.htm) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/44 "2004-12-04T08:11:47Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > …I wonder when Bush finally leaves office whether we’ll have any friends left in the world. Yes. Same as always. Remember just after 9/11? Candlelight vigils, people that didn’t even like us very much. The thing about spewing so much media around the world, everybody knows what “OK” means, everybody has had a Coke. We remind everyone that if they had a chance, most of them would be Americans. This embarrasses them. For good reason. But they always were our friends. They just thought we were incredibly, stupidly wrong. Friends don’t let friends… ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/45 "2004-12-04T08:51:46Z")
As most of us have said, yes, Coutler is a numb-nut. But you know, **Reeder** , you are just a left wing Coutler. You and she are two sides of the same coin, using the same arguments from opposite angles. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/46 "2004-12-04T14:03:16Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Damnit I skipped over this. > I’m just blown away. > You despise them, honestly **despise** them? > That isn’t just rhetoric? > If there was a person on the left who was also a wackjob, you’d despise people on the left too? > You do realize that is just about the most ridiculous, least logical, most hateful ideology anybody can hold? As long as they send the cream of our youth to die in a God forsaken illrgal war. As long as they care more for the haves than the have nots. As long as they care more for corporate interests than envioronmental interests. As long as they practice bigotry in a persons sexual preference. As long as they continue to run up deficits my grandchildren will have to pay. I will continue to despise them. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/47 "2004-12-04T15:32:51Z")
just wondering, did you have a swelling, dramatic string score behind you while you typed that? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/48 "2004-12-04T15:40:58Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > If **Reeder** will allow an outside opinion first published in _The Washington Post_, I’d like to point anyone interested to think about an American in Toronto and her view on the two countries. > > Of course, there’s little **Reeder** can attack (even though he’s not a Reedercrat) :rolleyes: She says in the article she’s a dyed-in-the-wool “blue-statie”. > > If you haven’t seen it yet, check [here](http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/editorial/10326754.htm) Meh. Her points are not entirely without merit, but she’s vastly overstating her case. For example, she apparently believes that the reason people in Canada resist partial privatization of the health system is because it would make us more like the States, and this is part of the pervasive anti-Americanism here. But she’s just flat out wrong. The reasons many Canadians oppose any privatization of the health system may be debateable, but they have nothing to do with anti-Americanism. She’s either imagining it, or she’s hypersensitive, or more likely both. This holds for a great number of the points she makes. You may want to take the entire column with a grain or two of salt. ---
**Author:** ![Malodorous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Malodorous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malodorous)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/49 "2004-12-04T16:26:34Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > As most of us have said, yes, Coutler is a numb-nut. But you know, **Reeder** , you are just a left wing Coutler. You and she are two sides of the same coin, using the same arguments from opposite angles. 'Course Reeder is very rarely invited on CNN. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/50 "2004-12-04T16:30:41Z")
> [@Malodorous](#): > > 'Course Reeder is very rarely invited on CNN. True, but he’s a regular contributor on FOX… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/51 "2004-12-04T19:11:10Z")
> [@adam yax](#): > > As a Canadian that is from the area that Ms. Coulter wants in the USA (Calgary), I can tell you that there are some people there who wouldn’t mind becoming part of the US. There is probably a greater number of people, however, who think Bush is an idiot and wouldn’t want him as their leader. I am basing this just on the people that I know. And, I’m sure she’d be surprised to know that, even in “Republican Canada”, there are honest to goodness _socialists_ elected to the legislature, and it was the province with the second highest support of the Green Party in the federal election. “America lite” it ain’t. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/52 "2004-12-04T20:54:20Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > It’s sad. She would be funny if she had any humor about her. In other words, she would be funny… if she were funny. > [@](#): > > Just to be clear…if Coulter were a left wing nutjob advocating the same thing, I’d despise them too. It’s good to know that you’re down on all the left wing nutjobs advocating uber-reactionary, borderline fascist policies. 'Course, if they did that, they wouldn’t exactly be _left-wing_ nutjobs, now, would they? Please remember folks, **Reeder** speaks for the left to precisely the same degree that Coulter speaks for the right. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/53 "2004-12-04T22:57:31Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Please remember folks, **Reeder** speaks for the left to precisely the same degree that Coulter speaks for the right. I try to remember this every time I read a post from **Reeder** , but sometimes he makes it damn difficult. And **Gorsnack** , points taken. I posted that Op-Ed for the simple reason it’s so rare to read anything in a major paper with that viewpoint. I’ll order my next hot pretzel extra-salty. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2004, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/54 "2004-12-05T00:35:22Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Please remember folks, **Reeder** speaks for the left to precisely the same degree that Coulter speaks for the right. While I’m willing to concede that Coulter doesn’t represent mainstream right wing thought to any great degree, it’s patently obvious that a bestselling author with planty of TV forums to speak from DOES speak for a considerable portion of the right, whereas Reeder’s influence, AFAIK, is pretty much limited to this message board and whatever others he may frequent. Not the same thing at all. Sad to say, Coulter DOES speak for a considerable number of right-wing folks. If she didn’t, her books wouldn’t sell. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2004, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/55 "2004-12-05T00:38:04Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > Sad to say, Coulter DOES speak for a considerable number of right-wing folks. If she didn’t, her books wouldn’t sell. Maybe it’s accurate to say she sells to, rather than speaks for, a considerable number of right-wing folks? I’ve bought a good few authors over the years, and although I dig him, I wouldn’t say they spoke for me. Ya know? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2004, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/56 "2004-12-05T00:40:26Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Maybe it’s accurate to say she sells to, rather than speaks for, a considerable number of right-wing folks? > I’ve bought a good few authors over the years, and although I dig him, I wouldn’t say they spoke for me. Ya know? That’s why I didn’t say she spoke for the bulk of right-wingers in general. If I believed that she spoke for everyone who bought her books, I WOULD say she speaks for the right wing in general. ---
**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2004, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/57 "2004-12-05T01:24:23Z")
How seriously is Coulter taken? Everything I’ve ever read about her or from her has been that kind of blatantly inflammatory (and often simply inaccurate) statements. I don’t think she does conservative thinking any favour because she certainly doesn’t persuade me that her political philosophy is reasonable and that I should consider it. I thought the idea of political discourse was to convince people of your reasoning. All she does is make me wonder if she’s unbalanced. And I’m in western Canada, BC in fact. We’re pretty liberal here, whether she realises it or not. Gay marriage and all that stuff. Again, she’s simply mistaken. I do think an intelligent argument would be more valuable in the great left versus right debate, but it seems like no one has the time for reason any more. It’s like The Jerry Springer Show of politics. > [@](#): > > ELLIS HENICAN [Newsday columnist]: We share a lot of culture and a lot of interests. Why do we want to have to ridicule them and be deeply offended if they disagree with us? > COULTER: Because they speak French. The woman is simply stupid, and juvenile as well. If she’s not stupid, then I’m honestly perplexed by the nonsensical things she says. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2004, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/58 "2004-12-05T01:40:43Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > That’s why I didn’t say she spoke for the bulk of right-wingers in general. If I believed that she spoke for everyone who bought her books, I WOULD say she speaks for the right wing in general. The first mistake you’re making is lumping all conservatives into the “right wing”. If you meant she doesn’t speak for all conservatives, than you must call anyone left-of-center a “left winger”. Not very important to the survival of the species, but saying anyone that doesn’t hold your world-view is an extremist is counter-productive and often disingenuous (sp?). ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2004, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/59 "2004-12-05T01:43:12Z")
I can respect an intelligent conservative who expresses his views, however repugnant they are to me, coherently and with respect for his opponents and their rights to hold different views than him. There are many such people. Then there’s Ann Coulter. Under the First and Fourteenth Amendments, she has the right to say what she thinks, or what will get her attention (which I suspect is her intent), free from government control. Of course, if all the decent American citizens, conservative, liberal, or moderate, were to say, "We will not watch networks which carry her, we will not buy publications which print her, we will not buy any books published by companies which publish her, and we will not patronize companies which choose to advertize in/on media which carry her, then perhaps her libelous vitriol could be silenced by the most effective means – a boycott. I have personally ceased communication with several people who decided to agree in writing with her Treason book on other message boards – on the grounds that they made an unsupported and highly offensive insult to me personally in doing so. And I would love to see a class-action libel suit against her and the media that carry her in behalf of several million loyal American citizens. In behalf of American citizens, I offer a sincere apologies to our Canadian neighbors and usually friends for the fact that our freedoms permit her to insult you in this manner. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/60 "2004-12-05T01:44:05Z")
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