# Coulter at it again. My apologies to our Canadian friends. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 4, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007 "2004-12-04T02:17:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/121 "2004-12-06T00:34:18Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > I’ll go one better. From now on I’ll refer to citizens of Moscow as Asians. Also Asian are residents of Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran. I’ll refer to New Zealanders as Australian. And to top it off, the Eqyptian family I know will be called African-Americans. With the exception of New Zealand being part of Australia (they’re quite far apart, really) I’ve heard people make precisely those classifications in complete earnestness. Particularly the Egyptian=African argument. Of course, the real stupidity in this discussion isn’t the geographical hairsplitting, it’s the idea that people were actually getting _offended_ at not being called American. Fer fuck’s sake, how thin a skin can you have? ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/122 "2004-12-06T00:34:21Z")
One more day. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/123 "2004-12-06T00:51:16Z")
> [@The Truth](#): > > I bet if you saw a black kid getting beaten up by a KKK person, you’d probably blame the black kid, judging by who you choose to place the blame on in this thread. Please tell me that you’ve never had fifteen dollars to your name and never will? ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/124 "2004-12-06T01:30:03Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > (Now I’m kind of wondering why you spell “Egypt” with a “q” instead of a “g”, or whether it’s just my browser.) :smack: :smack: Well, one out of three ain’t bad. Just a typo on the last two. Kinda like when I try to write it. All the loops in a row just fuck me up. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/125 "2004-12-06T01:32:52Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > [http://mediamatters.org/items/200412010011](http://mediamatters.org/items/200412010011) > > It’s sad. She would be funny if she had any humor about her. > > Let’s hope her idiotic mindset is not par for the course in the repug party. Christ on a crutch! Some people are so hot to find something to bitch about that they overlook the simplest and most obvious things: facetious \Fa\*ce"tious, a. [Cf. F. fac['e]tieux. See Faceti[ae].] 1. Given to wit and good humor; merry; sportive; jocular; as, a facetious companion. 1. Characterized by wit and pleasantry; exciting laughter; as, a facetious story or reply. – Fa_ce"tious_ly, adv. – Fa_ce"tious_ness, n. In other words, she was making a joke, fer Pete’s sake! ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/126 "2004-12-06T01:37:48Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > she was making a joke, fer Pete’s sake! Cite? Is the whole “treason” thing a joke, too? What about the zombie-like appearance? ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/127 "2004-12-06T01:40:11Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > It doesn’t matter much, bet then neither does Canada. I can now say I’ve heard it all. My poor American friends. They constantly try to assure me that not all Americans think of Canada as the gum on their shoe, and then someone like you comes along… ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/128 "2004-12-06T01:40:17Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > With the exception of New Zealand being part of Australia (they’re quite far apart, really) I’ve heard people make precisely those classifications in complete earnestness. Particularly the Egyptian=African argument. > > Of course, the real stupidity in this discussion isn’t the geographical hairsplitting, it’s the idea that people were actually getting _offended_ at not being called American. Fer fuck’s sake, how thin a skin can you have? Agreed. I’m not trying to do any geographical hairsplitting. My intent was to point out the fallacy of arguing that anyone from N or S America could be considered American when “American” is recognized the world over as being from the USA. Also, I know NZ is not Australia. But I was making the point that naming anyone as a native of a given country based only on what continent the country is in is weak, at best. Hence the Egyptian reference. Calling Egyptians “African” as well as those in say, Liberia grossly overlooks many differences. The same as calling residents of Mexico “American” overlooks more than a few differences. BTW, I’m working on the assumption that NZ is part of the continent of Australia, not the country of Australia. Am I wrong on that? ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/129 "2004-12-06T01:41:39Z")
Oh, also, I have no problem referring to residents of the US as Americans. In fact, I do it all the time. But it doesn’t take a huge leap to understand why some people would prefer not to in dicussions of USA/Canada relations. Use some rationality here, people. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/130 "2004-12-06T01:43:26Z")
> [@LaurAnge](#): > > I can now say I’ve heard it all. My poor American friends. They constantly try to assure me that not all Americans think of Canada as the gum on their shoe, and then someone like you comes along… Oh, trust me. There are many Canadians that help reaffirm this attitude in the US. (Who was that fucking cunt in Ottawa awhile back that was caught on tape slamming the Americans?) ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/131 "2004-12-06T01:44:06Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > BTW, I’m working on the assumption that NZ is part of the continent of Australia, not the country of Australia. Am I wrong on that? I believe the continent is called Australasia or Oceania. ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/132 "2004-12-06T01:46:10Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Oh, trust me. There are many Canadians that help reaffirm this attitude in the US. > > (Who was that fucking cunt in Ottawa awhile back that was caught on tape slamming the Americans?) I don’t deny that there is a lot of anti-American sentiment in Canada. But there are some qualifiers that I don’t think are parallel: I do think it is more a reflection of the current administration, it is in large part because of the attitudes you guys have of us and it’s mixed with a deep appreciation of the US, as well. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/133 "2004-12-06T01:47:45Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > snip Now what you said makes sense. Did you bother to watch the video? I guess not. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/134 "2004-12-06T01:49:33Z")
> [@LaurAnge](#): > > I can now say I’ve heard it all. My poor American friends. They constantly try to assure me that not all Americans think of Canada as the gum on their shoe, and then someone like you comes along… You do know he is a frigging idiot don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/135 "2004-12-06T01:54:21Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > You do know he is a frigging idiot don’t you? I’m learning quickly. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/136 "2004-12-06T02:11:07Z")
> [@LaurAnge](#): > > I don’t deny that there is a lot of anti-American sentiment in Canada. But there are some qualifiers that I don’t think are parallel: I do think it is more a reflection of the current administration, it is in large part because of the attitudes you guys have of us and it’s mixed with a deep appreciation of the US, as well. I personally don’t know of anyone where I live that doesn’t hold Canada in high regard. I guess both sides of the border can get caught up in the politics and forget there are many on each side either party can agree with. Such is life. Like France, I may loathe the administration and many Parisians, but I’ve come to acknowledge that many, many French are actually very much supportive of the US. Damn SDMB, making me learn to examine my views and not just take a knee-jerk stance on everything. :mad: But whatever else happens, my state is proud to share [this](http://www.peacegarden.com/) with our Northern brothers and sisters. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/137 "2004-12-06T02:34:56Z")
> [@LaurAnge](#): > > Oh, also, I have no problem referring to residents of the US as Americans. In fact, I do it all the time. But it doesn’t take a huge leap to understand why some people would prefer not to in dicussions of USA/Canada relations. Use some rationality here, people. Sorry, but I’m not seeing the point. Does anyone YOU know become confused by the term “Americans” when discussing US-Canada relations? Do you ever hear conversations that go like this? SMITH: So the United States and Canada are having trade talks. JONES: Oh, how is it going? SMITH: Well, the Americans are looking for a better deal in the Auto Pact. JONES: Americans? I’m confused. Which ones are the Americans? SMITH: The folks from the United States. JONES: Oh, you had me confused there, I’ve never heard that before. SMITH: Sorry. So anyway, the Canadians wanted… JONES: Wait… do you mean Canadians as in people from Canada, or as in the hockey team from Montreal? I mean, give me a break. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/138 "2004-12-06T02:38:42Z")
You do know it’s the Montreal _ **Canadiens** _ rather than Canadians don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/139 "2004-12-06T03:07:50Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > It doesn’t matter much, bet then neither does Canada. That was a good time, though, when they invaded us and burned our capital to the ground. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007/140 "2004-12-06T03:09:18Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > BTW, I’m working on the assumption that NZ is part of the continent of Australia, not the country of Australia. Am I wrong on that? It’s neither. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coulter-at-it-again-my-apologies-to-our-canadian-friends/278007.md?page=8)