# Council on Foreign Relations the New Illuminati

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**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\
**Created:** [January 29, 2009, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/council-on-foreign-relations-the-new-illuminati/483509 "2009-01-29T05:21:52Z")\
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Cecil’s column [Does May Day actually commemorate the birth of the Illuminati?](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/40/does-may-day-actually-commemorate-the-birth-of-the-illuminati) was written at the beginning of the Reagan administration, a time when right-wing paranoia and conspiracy theories were nowhere near as well-developed as they are today.

I was struck by the following paragraph, though:

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> And so it goes. You hear less about the Illuminati today, probably because the whole thing is so cornball, and let’s face it, after 200 years even the best conspiracy theory starts to get a little old. I note here in my copy of None Dare Call It Conspiracy (1972), a crackpot classic that pins the one-world plot on the Council on Foreign Relations, that the Illuminati rate only a couple paragraphs.

Now the Council on Foreign Relations is as staid and as establishment an organization as exists in this country. Cecil was obviously lulled by the dense gray print of their tome Foreign Relations because he didn’t see that he missed the forest for the trees. It wasn’t the Illuminati he should have focused on but the CFR itself.

Despite - or perhaps because - of its establishment grayness, the John Birch Society seized on the CFR and the equally august Trilateral Commission as the uber-governmental groups that were going to force the One World Society down our throats. Gary Allen, one of the authors of None Dare Call It Conspiracy, was a prominent Bircher and deeply involved in the far fringes of the right.

Nobody still believes that rubbish today, of course. After all, it’s been 35 years since the book came out and our world is still as fragmented as ever, talk of a NAFTA Superhighway notwithstanding.

You’ve be wrong if you thought that. On a wonderfully loony right-wing blog [Wizbang.org](http://Wizbang.org), I found poster DJ Drummond, about whom I know nothing except that he wrote a daily set of entries before the election proving with strict mathematical logic that every poll in the country was wrong and biased. (Polling organizations are headquartered in Washington, DC. and NYC, so are obviously liberal stooges. He gave their addresses, even. What more proof do you need beside a zip code?) He gave the true numbers that would validate him after the actual results of November 4 proved him right. That was the last we heard of those numbers, but not of his posts.

And yet he is a virtual centrist among the posters at Wizbang. So not crazy is he that he started a thread called [Insane Paranoid Conspiracy Thread](http://wizbangblog.com/content/2009/01/23/insane-paranoid-conspiracy-thread.php) so that the others wouldn’t clutter up his threads.

Now listen to what LaMedusa posted in that thread.

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> First of all, it’s the council of foreign relations that is running the show, not the government. Back in Oct, 2008 members of congress were threatened with Martial Law in “private conversations” if they didn’t vote in favor of the bailout. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d\_4zij8](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d_4zij8)

This was a rational for his belief in, what else, the NAFTA Superhighway as well as the certainty that all citizens will soon get RFID chips so the government can track their every move.

There’s a force behind the CFR, though. It’s the Anti-Christ. Who has even fooled the Illuminati.

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> If you are wondering, yes, the anti-christ is alive and well. The bloodline goes back to the beginning of time, and they are using a different surname than what they started out with. The Illuminati are deceived into a different version of World War Three. When you get a chance, go to youtube and watch the 1991 speech of George Bush sr when he speaks of the NWO. He speaks almost like he is under the influence of something, and what he is saying is where the real deception is.

LaMedusa does not get any support from the others and she is generally mocked in that thread. So I am certainly not trying to start any board wars or make accusations of the Wizbangers’ acceptance of these particular conspiracies. We get people projectile vomiting even loonier theories over here.

Reading that thread and Cecil’s old column so close together just triggered thoughts about the retention and progression of certain mush-brained beliefs, ones we are certain to see rise again in a world they no longer control.

I confess that if the CFR has been running things for decades I can’t see any reason why it matters whether Democrats or Republicans are nominally in charge of the government, but I’m a stooge dedicated to keeping the masses ignorant of the true forces behind those behind those who are in the shadowy rear.

Booga-booga.
