# Councilman, when I called the concert goers "peons," that is NOT what I meant!
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/councilman-when-i-called-the-concert-goers-peons-that-is-not-what-i-meant/472027
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 10, 2008, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/councilman-when-i-called-the-concert-goers-peons-that-is-not-what-i-meant/472027 "2008-11-10T13:32:11Z")
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### Author:  [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2008, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/councilman-when-i-called-the-concert-goers-peons-that-is-not-what-i-meant/472027/1 "2008-11-10T13:32:11Z")
Jersey City Councilman Steve Lipski arrested for [peeing on](http://www.politickernj.com/matt-friedman/25306/jersey-city-councilman-arrested-urinating-concert-crowd) concert goers
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### Author:  [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2008, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/councilman-when-i-called-the-concert-goers-peons-that-is-not-what-i-meant/472027/2 "2008-11-10T14:03:04Z")
Jersey City can give Chicago a run for it’s money, eh? Although the trend seems to be moving away from blatant corruption into mere colorful insanity.
My favorite will always be Allen Manzo, the mayoral candidate who spent election day 1992 in jail because he beat an elderly man with a tire iron, for the crime of unknowlingly putting up a campaign poster for Louis Manzo, his brother, in front of his (Allen’s) house: [Cite](http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE7DA1530F936A35752C1A964958260). Yee-hah! And the dude still got thousands of votes!
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### Author:  [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/councilman-when-i-called-the-concert-goers-peons-that-is-not-what-i-meant/472027/3 "2008-11-11T02:48:48Z")
Yeah, well, I mean, our fine mayor, Jeremiah T. Healy, not only got in a bar fight but was elected soon after naked photos of him were posted around the internet. I mean, not sexy naked but sitting-on-his-front-porch-drunk naked.
Then there was the council member and Hudson County Register, Willie Flood, who hired her criminal son to work for both of her political positions, who was then arrested for selling drugs out of her fancy car.
They’ve still got nothing on [Frank Hague](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Hague), though. That man knew how to do corruption.
> [@Hague speech to the Jersey City Chamber of Commerce](#):
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> “We hear about constitutional rights, free speech and the free press. Every time I hear those words I say to myself, ‘That man is a Red, that man is a Communist.’ You never heard a real American talk in that manner.”
Stay classy, Jersey City!
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### Author:  [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/councilman-when-i-called-the-concert-goers-peons-that-is-not-what-i-meant/472027/4 "2008-11-11T03:20:51Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> \*\*Councilman, when I called the concert goers “peons,” that is NOT what I meant! \*\*
Reminds me of what my brother has always said about “trickle down economics” :
"It’s not money that trickles down, and there’s a reason they call us “pee-ons”.
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### Author:  [@Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamaika_a_jamaikaiake)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2008, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/councilman-when-i-called-the-concert-goers-peons-that-is-not-what-i-meant/472027/5 "2008-11-11T05:07:46Z")
Jersey City!
ETA: Yeah!
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### Author:  [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2008, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/councilman-when-i-called-the-concert-goers-peons-that-is-not-what-i-meant/472027/6 "2008-11-11T05:49:45Z")
With all due respect to the unfortunate ‘subjects’ (the peons pun has been taken far enough, think), that article is a classic of understated humour:
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> Apparently, this wasn’t the first run-in Lipski has had with the 9:30 Club’s staff, who described Lispki to the paper as never having peed on anyone before Friday, but of typically being “really belligerent and drunk.”
Great stuff.
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### Author:  [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/councilman-when-i-called-the-concert-goers-peons-that-is-not-what-i-meant/472027/7 "2008-11-11T18:29:49Z")
The mayor of Watsonville, California, elected in 2003, promptly got into a bar fracas as the San Francisco Chronicle reported:
"Ousted Watsonville Mayor Richard de la Paz Jr. had been hailed as the
kid from the wrong side of town who made good.
The son of a convicted robber who had his own teenage scrapes with the law,
de la Paz beat the town political machine to win election to City Council at
age 23 and was chosen mayor by his colleagues seven months ago on the night of
his 26th birthday.
Yet just months after a local weekly newspaper touted him as “The New Face
of Watsonville” politics, the tough-talking Navy vet pleaded no contest Friday
to inciting violence after a May 28 drunken bar brawl in which the married
then-mayor was accused of punching a young woman for spurning his advances."