# Countdown to war with Venezuela **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 28, 2025, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201 "2025-11-28T06:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/81 "2025-12-30T23:10:16Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Of course, the asshole’s term will end before he gets anywhere close to that, even if he can live to see the end of the term. He’s the decrepit hippo wanting to eat an elephant and trying to nip at its tail. Yeah. He has the dilemma of a total narcissist nearing the end of his life; _all_ he cares about it himself, but he just doesn’t have the _time_ left to do what he wants. He’s just also delusional enough to mostly ignore that and act as if he’ll be around for decades. Even if he was competent enough to do so, which he isn’t, he just doesn’t have the time to build some Trump World Empire. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/82 "2025-12-31T01:55:10Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > They’ll be paying attention to what they _want_ the result to be. “We’ll be greeted as liberators!” (4 years in) “Ungrateful bastards! The Democrats are at fault for not getting us out of this quagmire!” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/83 "2025-12-31T21:03:37Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I think that and Trump’s sick, fucked-up fever dream of being Emperor of the Americas. He sees this as the first step toward that. I’m still of the opinion that Everything Trump knows about global military strategy he learned from playing Risk one time. Having the US and Alaska already, he still needs Canada, Mexico and most importantly Greenland to get his 5 armies a turn. If he gets Venezuela that’s a quarter of the way to picking up South America, that’s also why he so fixated in installing Trump lovers in Argentina, and Brazil. If he succeeds in Venezuela expect invasion plans for Peru next. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/84 "2025-12-31T21:12:03Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > If he succeeds in Venezuela expect invasion plans for Peru next. I can just picture the troops lugging all their gear around, plus oxygen tanks 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/85 "2025-12-31T21:25:59Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I’m still of the opinion that Everything Trump knows about global military strategy he learned from playing Risk one time. If you have one country on a continent, that denies the other player his five armies per turn. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/86 "2025-12-31T22:05:16Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I’m still of the opinion that Everything Trump knows about global military strategy he learned from playing Risk one time. Yeah, Trump is the kind of man who gets an impression of how something is from some almost-random source, then treats his first impression as absolute truth for the rest of his life while actively refusing to _actually_ learn how things work. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/87 "2025-12-31T22:13:20Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Isn’t the whole reason to invade Venezuela is to get back those oil fields? That, and to secure the supply of drugs. Right now, there’s too much risk of a rogue nation blowing up the boats and disrupting deliveries. Once we take control, we can ensure that business goes more smoothly. > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I’m still of the opinion that Everything Trump knows about global military strategy he learned from playing Risk one time. Nah, if that were the case, he’d rant about Australia a lot more. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/88 "2025-12-31T23:31:00Z")
oops! ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/89 "2026-01-03T07:25:17Z")
> **[At least 7 explosions and low-flying aircraft are heard in Venezuela's Caracas](https://apnews.com/article/venezuela-us-explosions-caracas-ca712a67aaefc30b1831f5bf0b50665e)** > > At least seven explosions and low-flying aircraft are heard in Venezuela’s capital, Caracas. It was not immediately clear what was behind the explosions. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/90 "2026-01-03T07:38:18Z")
And to think I expected better from a FIFA Peace Prize laureate. ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/91 "2026-01-03T13:31:23Z")
(double-checks forum name) Motherfucker!! This is not what I wanted to see when I woke up this morning. They didn’t even have the common decency to gin up some phony _cassus belli_ like with Iraq. We (well, not me personally, but you know what I mean) have just committed an act of war on a sovereign nation. This cannot be allowed to be swept under the rug, or glossed over as within the President’s powers, or some other bullshit. At a minimum, Trump, Hegseth, and probably Marco Rubio need to be impeached and barred from future office. In a better world than this one, some subset of them should face criminal penalties as well, but I’m not holding my breath. ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/92 "2026-01-03T13:38:12Z")
Seems to me that Venezuela is well within its rights to attack any and all US warships anywhere near their territory. I am assuming they won’t, due to the disparity in military capabilities, but Trump and his lackeys have just put a lot of Americans at unneccessary risk. I thought the ability to be absolutely, insanely furious at these fuckwits had been burned out of me, but apparently not. I guess that’s a good thing? I’d rather not have found out. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/93 "2026-01-03T13:42:53Z")
This Congress will never hold him to account. He’ll have a cabinet meeting and be reinforced by their cartoonish obsequence. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/94 "2026-01-03T13:47:17Z")
If Susan Collins doesn’t express concern, then I don’t even know what it was all for. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/95 "2026-01-03T13:49:43Z")
Apparently being the world’s policeman is only bad if a Democrat does it. c.f. bombing Nigeria for “persecuting Christians” (all the reporting I’ve seen says they are pretty indiscriminately killing people of all faith traditions) and the threat to invade Iran if it doesn’t stop shooting peaceful protestors. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/96 "2026-01-03T14:04:40Z")
Trump needs to be removed from office TODAY. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/97 "2026-01-03T15:14:23Z")
> [@carlb](#): > > Motherfucker!! This is not what I wanted to see when I woke up this morning. No Shit, Carl. So, as the last remaining sane US citizens, should we bunker up like bears that climb trees ( to be shot ) or are there safe regions in the USA to move to where the generals aren’t bought and paid for by drunk FOX NEWS scumbags with huge NAZI tattoos on their chest…? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/98 "2026-01-03T15:33:46Z")
[Reports are that U.S. special forces](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/01/03/world/trump-united-states-strikes-venezuela?unlocked_article_code=1.BlA.bj_6.KoIy-SR04vV_&smid=url-share) have captured Maduro and his wife. They are being taken to the U.S. to stand trial. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/99 "2026-01-03T15:40:48Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > They are being taken to the U.S. to stand trial. FOR WHAT???!! Not even Trump has accused Maduro of any crimes, other than being a bad President. And if that was a crime, Canadian forces should’ve dragged Trump out of the White House long ago. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/100 "2026-01-03T15:46:06Z")
Susan Collins has gone to DEFCON 2, both eyebrows furrowed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201.md?page=6)