# Countdown to war with Venezuela **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 28, 2025, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201 "2025-11-28T06:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/101 "2026-01-03T15:46:36Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > FOR WHAT???!! Trump’s first term DOJ indicted him in 2020 for narco-terrorism conspiracy and drug trafficking. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/102 "2026-01-03T15:47:23Z")
Check the link in my previous post and you will see: > Attorney General Pam Bondi said on social media that Mr. Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, had been indicted on drug and weapons charges and “will soon face the full wrath of American justice.” And yes, this is total BS and a violation of international law. But they have come up with an indictment. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/103 "2026-01-03T15:47:41Z")
He has been accused of narcoterrorism. He certainly facilitated such. Actually guilty of it? Not as I understand. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/104 "2026-01-03T15:51:13Z")
Change the charges from drugs to firearms, and now Canada and Mexico have precedent to indict and abduct Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/105 "2026-01-03T15:51:33Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > And if that was a crime, Canadian forces should’ve dragged Trump out of the White House long ago. 1. That is a significantly large sack to drag anywhere. 2. Since when are Canadian forces on the hook to drag out the Christmas Trash…? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/106 "2026-01-03T16:00:41Z")
> [@](#): > > > Attorney General Pam Bondi said on social media that Mr. Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, had been indicted on drug and weapons charges and “will soon face the full wrath of American justice.” So he’ll be convicted and given an unconditional discharge, the only lawful sentence to avoid interfering with the presidency of Venezuela? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/107 "2026-01-03T16:24:16Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > He has been accused of narcoterrorism. He certainly facilitated such Even if true, most illegal drug exports from Venezuela are cocaine to Europe. Not much fentanyl to the US. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/108 "2026-01-03T16:41:06Z")
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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/109 "2026-01-03T16:41:41Z")
Trump has spoken for 30 seconds and told about half dozen lies already. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/110 "2026-01-03T16:44:48Z")
Slacking off. His age is catching up. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/111 "2026-01-03T16:44:54Z")
He alternates between reading something coherent from a script and then babbling ad lib nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/112 "2026-01-03T16:45:17Z")
Man those Epstein’s files must be insanely incriminating. Red state America’s failed experiment with self government continues. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/113 "2026-01-03T16:45:45Z")
‘We’re going to run the country.’ - Mr. Potato Head ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/114 "2026-01-03T16:48:44Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > ‘We’re going to run the country.’ - Mr. Potato Head. I can’t bear to watch him. Did Trump actually say that? (It sounds too stupid for the actual Mr. Potato Head.) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/115 "2026-01-03T16:49:07Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Did Trump actually say that? Yes, he did. From _[The Telegraph](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/01/03/explosions-venezuela-capital-caracas/):_ > Donald Trumps says the US will run Venezuela until a leader can be found to replace Nicolas Maduro. > > “We’re going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition,” he says. > > “So we don’t want to be involved with having somebody else get in and we have the same situation that we had for the last long period of years… we’re going to stay until such time as the proper transition can take place.” > [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > I can’t bear to watch him. Neither can I, anymore. I’ve just switched back to _Shakespeare and Hathaway: Private Investigators_. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/116 "2026-01-03T16:55:12Z")
Yeah. I’m tapping out. If I need an emetic, I’ll reach for [**syrup of ipecac**](https://www.goodrx.com/health-topic/gastroenterology/ipecac-syrup). It’s fallen out of favor, but … the audience still wants to hear you play the hits. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/117 "2026-01-03T16:59:18Z")
Marco Rubio knows better. Look at his eyes. You can see the shame. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/118 "2026-01-03T17:02:05Z")
I don’t agree: > **[How Rubio is winning over Trumpworld on striking Venezuela](https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-10-17/marco-rubio-venezuela-maduro-trump)** > > U.S. military pressure on Venezuela is a major victory for Marco Rubio, who has swayed MAGA to his cause: toppling leftist Latin American authoritarians. **[https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/marco-rubio-trump-venezuela-policy-afe1ab2c](https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/marco-rubio-trump-venezuela-policy-afe1ab2c)** > **[A deadly strike marks a moment in Marco Rubio’s long desire to confront...](https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/deadly-strike-marks-moment-in-marco-rubios-long-desire-to-confront-venezuela/3687349/)** > > The deadly strike on a boat U.S. officials say was carrying drugs from Venezuela may have marked a stunning shift in the countries’ relations, but escalating pressure on the South American nation has defined much of Secretary of State... > **[US politicians react to capture of Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/03/us-politicians-reaction-capture-venezuelan-president-maduro)** > > Republicans officials cheered attack, but Democrats said action ‘risks pulling our nation into another war’ > ​The US secretary of state, Marco Rubio, issued a statement: “Maduro is NOT the President of Venezuela and his regime is not the legitimate government. Maduro is the head of the Cartel de Los Soles, a narco-terror organization that has taken control of the country. And he is under indictment for pushing drugs into the United States.” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/119 "2026-01-03T17:09:35Z")
OK, if he’s not the legitimate President, then why are we taking power? Why not just hand over the reins to whomever we claim is the legitimate President? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201/120 "2026-01-03T17:21:01Z")
Because the legitimate president may not be a stooge who will freely give us all their oil. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/countdown-to-war-with-venezuela/1025201.md?page=7)