# county banned? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 17, 2004, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572 "2004-05-17T11:55:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/81 "2004-05-18T07:21:00Z")
**Shodan** , you’re emphasising the somewhat reasonable aspect of **county** ’s last (?) post and ignoring the jerk bit. You keep suggesting he said, “Well those black folks had it tough during the Civil Rights era too, you know”. He didn’t. He said “Yes, you’re discriminated against. So were blacks. That means you shouldn’t complain about it,” and in much more insulting terms than that. He accepted that gays endure stuff they shouldn’t have to, and insinuated that it ought to be okay with them since black people had to. The suggestion itself is extremely disingenous, especially given the fact that **county** has made several racist comments himself\*; a black person might be _somewhat_ justified in making the same assertion, although he/she would be wrong. \*I’ll dig a couple up in the morning ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/82 "2004-05-18T12:10:14Z")
Sorry, I agree with **Revtim**. This was not even in a gray area. And **Not Really All That Bright** , I take your point, but again, this was not over the line. Saying “quit whining” is hate speech? Not even close. Which is why this doesn’t work: > [@wring](#): > > The analogies submitted by our friends Shodan for example (about ‘get of your cross’ , and bias of the liberal media), I would suggest are not in the rhelm of ‘jerk’ to the same degree since (as far as I know), there’s not a whole lotta claim that folks are being lynched 'cause of the liberal media bias. **county** wasn’t lynched; he was banned. IMO unjustly. (And there’s only one of me). If nobody can complain about unfair treatment until they have been lynched, then nobody can complain about being told to “quit whining” if they haven’t been lynched. What the hell - I have to present my membership card in the Oppressed Minorities Club before I can expect fair treatment? Sheesh - **gobear** is the one who had the remark made to him, and he is the only one in this damn thread that **isn’t** complaining. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/83 "2004-05-18T12:47:43Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Sorry, I agree with **Revtim**. This was not even in a gray area. What the fuck? How can you possibly believe this is true? Do you think that “gray area” is some objective standard that scientists can study and quantify? Of course it isn’t: it’s a subjective standard entirely in the minds of the mods and administrators. If they say it’s in the gray area, it’s in the gray area: your opinion, your belief, has nothing to do with it. > [@](#): > > And **Not Really All That Bright** , I take your point, but again, this was not over the line. Saying “quit whining” is hate speech? Not even close. For someone that complains in another thread about moving the goalposts, this is mighty ballsy of you. Who said anything about hate speech? Being a jerk != spouting hate speech. As for its being over the line, again, we’re talking a subjective measure that exists entirely in the mods’ and admins’ minds, not some official demarcation. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/84 "2004-05-18T13:08:45Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > What the hell - I have to present my membership card in the Oppressed Minorities Club before I can expect fair treatment? > > Sheesh - **gobear** is the one who had the remark made to him, and he is the only one in this damn thread that **isn’t** complaining. As I said in an earlier post, **County** ’s comment was stupid and asshattish, but not IMO, ban-worthy. Certainly the great and powerful **Lynn** is the final authority and far be it from me to gainsay her, but I’m disappointed that he got banned before I got the chance to (rhetorically) stomp him into the ground with me hobnailed boots until he was naught but a greasy patch on the asphalt. Banning him is not nearly as satisfying as seeing him wriggle in the crushing grip of reason. I understand that **County** had a history of throwing turds into punchbowls and had racked up several warnings, so I can’t very well carp about his being banned given the context, but IMO his remark in itself was not deserving of the censure it received. Granted that he was a detestable little jerk and the board’s mean IQ rises several points merely from his absence, but we all make intemperate comments in the heat of argument, and it’s disquieting to note that the line between acceptable and unacceptable posts is so arbitrary. > [@](#): > > **Polonius:** My lord, I will use them according to their desert. > **Hamlet:** God’s bodikins, man, much better; use every man after his desert, and who should ’scape whipping? **Hamlet** , Act II, Scene ii. ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/85 "2004-05-18T13:20:15Z")
“County had a history of throwing turds into punchbowls” I hope you didn’t meet him at a Dopefest. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/86 "2004-05-18T13:51:26Z")
> [@pugluvr](#): > > Idiot vitriol - vidiotrol? vidiotriocy? Somewhere in there there’s a cool new word. Try “idiovitriol”. Or, for the partisan attack dogs, “ideovitriol”. I’m on the side of “ **county** worked hard at his jerkishness and finally earned enough points to be banned.” He occasionally had something reasonably useful to say, but most of his posts were a waste of hamster chow. ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/87 "2004-05-18T15:21:14Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Originally Posted by calm kiwi At least County admitted when he was wrong. Sure he did. Yeah, right.[B/] Hey I never said the bloke wasn’t a dick. Nor did I apologise for him. I just said my own personal favourite dickhead is just as unpleasant and is still here. Hey if it wern’t for the dickheads we would all agree 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/88 "2004-05-18T15:26:25Z")
> [@calm kiwi](#): > > I just said my own personal favourite dickhead is just as unpleasant and is still here. Mine didn’t pay up. I actually thought about paying for him. I feel so deprived. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/89 "2004-05-18T15:41:58Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > Sure he did. Yeah, right. > > I can’t believe people are going to the mattresses for this guy. Really, it boggles the mind. I have never read a post by county that brightened a day or offered anything other than antagonism. But that’s MY blanket statement, and probably not accurate, but hey, I’m glad he’s gone, so that’s just me. The hullaballoo about “oh, we’re all on thin ice” is silly-- no one else who posted to this thread has approached the utter jerkishness of **county**. You’re not on thin ice, you just liked the guy for some reason that escapes me, and want to bitch and give Lynn shit. Please. > > Let me be the first to say, thank you **Lynn Bodoni** and **TVeblen** , for making this board a better place by banning **county**. Thank you. Someone should say it. He was certainly asking for it and you did the right thing. > > Am I biased? Hell yes. > > **county** called me a vicious bitch less than a week ago. I couldn’t figure out why he was insisting on distorting my motivations and the outcomes of my actions, despite my repeated explications, and then dawn broke over Marblehead and I got it– > > \*\*county \*\* is just an extremely unpleasant person who likes to say malicious, assholish things to people just to throw gasoline on a fire or hurt a feeling. I think he enjoyed it and did it on purpose, because he certainly ignored everything I and other said and all logic in order to continue driving home his fallacious point and saying hurtful things, even escalating hostilities in an already crappy thread. He made a straw man outta me and proceeded to drop a match; Lynn told him to stop being a jerk, and then he was a jerk again in another thread. What’s so hard to understand here? > > I for one applaud Lynn and TVeblen for finally getting sick of his continuous jerkishness. He was JUST WARNED a week ago for the same kind of behavior; should he keep getting a pass for that kind of mean-spiritedness? Were his redeeming qualities so fabulous that they overshadow the continuous nastiness? You’re entitled to your opinion, but I say no way and good riddance. In point of fact county was responding to _you_ in kind where in a previous post in the thread, you called him a “dickhead” without any prior name calling on his part toward you. One [needs to read the entire thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=256145&page=1&pp=50) to get the flavor of the dialog, but it is clear you initiated the name calling. Lynn’s warning to county in that thread without giving an accompanying warning to you for essentially identical name calling behavior is indicative of the fact that she was irritated by him and was gunning for him. After the fact “he was told thus and so” administrative puffery aside, it is obvious that when mods reach a specific level of indian burn irritation with certain posters almost any mis-step will get them axed. It’s not even handed if another poster is behaving the same way in the thread any only the targeted poster gets warned, but it is human nature. ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/90 "2004-05-18T15:53:11Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > Mine didn’t pay up. I actually thought about paying for him. I feel so deprived. I would feel deprived if mine wasn’t here too. I kinda like him in the way you like something that is bad for you…shhhhh don’t tell him. He does make me giggle. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/91 "2004-05-18T15:55:13Z")
> [@astro](#): > > In point of fact county was responding to _you_ in kind where in a previous post in the thread, you called him a “dickhead” without any prior name calling on his part toward you. One [needs to read the entire thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=256145&page=1&pp=50) to get the flavor of the dialog, but it is clear you initiated the name calling. Hmmm, since it was _my thread_, I think I did read the entire thing, thanks though. I tried to be reasonable with him AND explain my POV and rationale, but he insisted that I was being spiteful and trying to get an innocent dog killed, and no amount of evidence to the contrary could dissuade him _because he did not want to be dissuaded_: he WANTED to start a nasty argument, and his entry into the thread definitely degraded the already crappy quality of the discussion. Many of the things he said were designed to be cruel and hurtful, and to be dismissive of the emotional pain I made no bones about feeling over the incident. Yes, I called him a dickhead, and since this is the Pit, mate, namecalling is not the problem. If you HAD read the thread closely, you’d notice that he started the namecalling by insulting **CrazyCatLady** (she did not initiate such behavior), calling her a hysterical moron and mocking her username. That is dickheaded behavior, and I was just calling a spade a spade. The turd-flinging had been well under way by that point. Just so we’re clear on this. > [@](#): > > Lynn’s warning to county in that thread without giving an accompanying warning to you for essentially identical name calling behavior is indicative of the fact that she was irritated by him and was gunning for him. Oh, this deliberate obtuseness is so tiresome. It wasn’t the namecalling that got him labeled a jerk, in and of itself. It was the deliberately hostile and cruel remarks he made, not only to me, without much provocation other than being disagreed with on a point about which he was incorrect. You will persist in seeing him as the victim, but he’s not. He’s the instigator. > [@](#): > > After the fact “he was told thus and so” administrative puffery aside, it is obvious that when mods reach a specific level of indian burn irritation with certain posters almost any mis-step will get them axed. It’s not even handed if another poster is behaving the same way in the thread any only the targeted poster gets warned, but it is human nature. Please. **county** had been warned on numerous occasions. He earned his banning. Get over it. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/92 "2004-05-18T16:08:11Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > Hmmm, since it was _my thread_, I think I did read the entire thing, thanks though. I tried to be reasonable with him AND explain my POV and rationale, but he insisted that I was being spiteful and trying to get an innocent dog killed, and no amount of evidence to the contrary could dissuade him _because he did not want to be dissuaded_: he WANTED to start a nasty argument, and his entry into the thread definitely degraded the already crappy quality of the discussion… I think people need to read the thread for themselves. As to your assertion that you were being “reasonable”, this is somewhat debatable, as there was a marked uptick in your level of name calling and pissed off vitriol when it was became evident that several posters were not completely in tune with your characterization of events, and made some fairly logical points toward that end. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/93 "2004-05-18T16:35:11Z")
> [@astro](#): > > I think people need to read the thread for themselves. As to your assertion that you were being “reasonable”, this is somewhat debatable, as there was a marked uptick in your level of name calling and pissed off vitriol when it was became evident that several posters were not completely in tune with your characterization of events, and made some fairly logical points toward that end. Oh, I never said I was reasonable throughout the thread. That certainly isn’t true. I lost my temper AND am generally highly emotionally wrought on that topic, and definitely slung some vitriol (it was mutual). In no way did I mean to characterize myself as entirely level-headed or calm in that thread. No, if you read carefully, I said I tried to be reasonable with **county** and to try to explain to him that I didn’t want the dog euthanized. I really do not want that at all, and resent the implication that I do. If you will review the thread, you will see that no matter what I said, he continued to insist that I was being vindictive and trying to get the dog killed, which was just…not…so–and is not a real risk of happening, either, as he continuously asserted it was. He was also very mean and dismissive about my cat dying, and despite knowing how horrible I feel, he tried hard to be quite shitty about it. Why? Why was he trying to paint me that way? Certainly not due to anything I said about my motivations. Just because he wanted to stir up shit? I really don’t see any other way to interpret it. That mean-spiritedness, and the fact that he STARTED the name calling at CrazyCatLady is what cumulated into a warning of jerkishness. To focus on the name-calling and ignore the rest of it is to be purposely disingenuous, as is much of this defense of **county**. Everyone who has spent time in the Pit has called names–not everyone is so frickin’ mean and nasty all the time, everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/94 "2004-05-18T16:47:04Z")
Posted by **Lynn** early this morning in [another thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=256722): > [@](#): > > If you get warned for being a jerk and then continue to spout excessively rude remarks, even though some of the remarks are not warned, the rude remarks can count against you if you have several warnings for the same behavior. It’s viewed as evidence that you cannot or will not change your ways. As I said earlier, **county** indicated about a year ago that he would try to change his ways. If he ever did so, it was in the wrong direction. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/95 "2004-05-18T17:07:53Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > Oh, I never said I was reasonable throughout the thread. That certainly isn’t true. I lost my temper AND am generally highly emotionally wrought on that topic, and definitely slung some vitriol (it was mutual). In no way did I mean to characterize myself as entirely level-headed or calm in that thread. > > No, if you read carefully, I said I tried to be reasonable with **county** and to try to explain to him that I didn’t want the dog euthanized. I really do not want that at all, and resent the implication that I do. If you will review the thread, you will see that no matter what I said, he continued to insist that I was being vindictive and trying to get the dog killed, which was just…not…so–and is not a real risk of happening, either, as he continuously asserted it was. He was also very mean and dismissive about my cat dying, and despite knowing how horrible I feel, he tried hard to be quite shitty about it. > > Why? Why was he trying to paint me that way? Certainly not due to anything I said about my motivations. Just because he wanted to stir up shit? I really don’t see any other way to interpret it. That mean-spiritedness, and the fact that he STARTED the name calling at CrazyCatLady is what cumulated into a warning of jerkishness. To focus on the name-calling and ignore the rest of it is to be purposely disingenuous, as is much of this defense of **county**. Everyone who has spent time in the Pit has called names–not everyone is so frickin’ mean and nasty all the time, everywhere. Let’s be clear on this issue. Despite your attempts to spin Lynn’s warning to him as some sort of a cumulative caution for the emotional distress he inflicted on you by being a nasty jerk and disagreeing with you in that thread, the warning he received had absolutely nothing to do with his back and forth in the Pit scrum that characterized that thread prior to the point of his calling you a “vicious bitch” as a retort to your calling him an “argumentative dickhead”. It is glaringly, blindingly obvious that calling you a “bitch” was THE hot button for Lynn regardless of what you may have called him, and to that extent was tantamount to holding him to double standard in the back and forth volley of expletives you two were induging yourselves in. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/96 "2004-05-18T17:33:41Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Despite your attempts to spin Lynn’s warning to him as some sort of a cumulative caution for the emotional distress he inflicted on you by being a nasty jerk and disagreeing with you in that thread Seems to me that it _was_ a cumuliative caution for his being a nasty jerk in general. Scroll up a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/97 "2004-05-18T17:33:57Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Let’s be clear on this issue. Despite your attempts to spin Lynn’s warning to him as some sort of a cumulative caution for the emotional distress he inflicted on you by being a nasty jerk and disagreeing with you in that thread, the warning he received had absolutely nothing to do with his back and forth in the Pit scrum that characterized that thread prior to the point of his calling you a “vicious bitch” as a retort to your calling him an “argumentative dickhead”. Why are you twisting this whole thing around like this? I am not spinning the warning as having been all about me. I already pointed out several times that he started the name-calling at **CrazyCatLady**. Did you read that? How can you assert that the warning he received “had nothing to do with his back and forth” in that thread before he called me a bitch? How do you know that? All Lynn said was, “Stop being a jerk.” She gave no indication of what particular post prompted her warning, probably because it wasn’t one single post that caused it but his overall performance throughout the thread, which in turn was probably prompted by a pattern of behavior over a long period of time. Also, he wasn’t really disagreeing with me. He was accusing me of something of which I was not guilty and ascribing motives to me I did not have in spite of many protestations to the contrary. It was just inexplicable hostility. I thought it was bizarre and most infuriating. > [@](#): > > It is glaringly, blindingly obvious that calling you a “bitch” was THE hot button for Lynn regardless of what you may have called him, and to that extent was tantamount to holding him to double standard in the back and forth volley of expletives you two were induging yourselves in. No, it is NOT “glaringly, blindingly obvious” what the cause of the warning was. You are totally making that up to support your specious point. \*\*county \*\* was a jerk in several different ways that thread, not only to me, either. Yes, I think he was unnecessarily mean to me, but that alone wasn’t all that prompted it, nor was that one single post where he called me a bitch. Way to twist the situation to make him a victim (while trying to make me sound like I am martyring myself :rolleyes: ), when he most patently was not, while ignoring any facts that contradict your baseless point. You and he have that argument style in common. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/98 "2004-05-18T17:51:29Z")
Oh, come off it, **astro**. He was baiting **Ruby** with a bunch of totally inaccurate bullshit, and when I told him he was incorrect in his assumptions, he came after me. I’d said nothing untoward to him, just that he can’t make an assessment of whether or not the dog’s vicious without seeing it, that in many jurisdictions killing other pets is indeed grounds for a dangerous dog complaint, and that dangerous dogs are not automatically euthanized out of hand. (If the owner doesn’t keep them properly confined and they continue their dangerous behavior, yes, they’re euthanized, but most dogs and owners are given multiple chances.) He responded with the crap described above and continued to accuse **Ruby** of deliberately carrying out a cold-blooded vendetta against this poor, defenseless, harmless little puppy when the whole thing was all her fault anyway. All I can think of it is that he was spoiling for a fight. When I didn’t oblige him (DNFTT), he upped the ante re: the alleged vendetta. His behavior throughout the entire thread was not just argumentative, obtuse, and generally shitty, which is all allowable in the Pit, but way over the line into undeservedly abusive. His remarks were way above and beyond what was called for in that thread, and he got a warning for the thread overall. Just like his banning, that warning just him piling concrete blocks onto the camel, then putting one teensy little straw on there for good measure. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/99 "2004-05-18T18:05:20Z")
In days of yore at SDMB, it was unseemly to bash former members who no longer could defend themselves. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572/100 "2004-05-18T18:20:34Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > Why are you twisting this whole thing around like this? I am not spinning the warning as having been all about me. I already pointed out several times that he started the name-calling at **CrazyCatLady**. Did you read that? How can you assert that the warning he received “had nothing to do with his back and forth” in that thread before he called me a bitch? How do you know that? All Lynn said was, “Stop being a jerk.” She gave no indication of what particular post prompted her warning, probably because it wasn’t one single post that caused it but his overall performance throughout the thread, which in turn was probably prompted by a pattern of behavior over a long period of time. > > Also, he wasn’t really disagreeing with me. He was accusing me of something of which I was not guilty and ascribing motives to me I did not have in spite of many protestations to the contrary. It was just inexplicable hostility. I thought it was bizarre and most infuriating. > > No, it is NOT “glaringly, blindingly obvious” what the cause of the warning was. You are totally making that up to support your specious point. \*\*county \*\* was a jerk in several different ways that thread, not only to me, either. Yes, I think he was unnecessarily mean to me, but that alone wasn’t all that prompted it, nor was that one single post where he called me a bitch. Way to twist the situation to make him a victim (while trying to make me sound like I am martyring myself :rolleyes: ), when he most patently was not, while ignoring any facts that contradict your baseless point. You and he have that argument style in common. Oddly enough, in viewing your exchanges with county I was struck by how similar your argument styles were, and how you sounded like an old married couple going at it. I was going to make mention of it in the previous post, but felt it would be impolite given how invested you were in despising him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/county-banned/245572.md?page=6)