# Courage to Change: another bad AOC idea **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 21, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/courage-to-change-another-bad-aoc-idea/848326 "2020-02-21T21:45:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/courage-to-change-another-bad-aoc-idea/848326/161 "2020-03-03T16:48:00Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Who’s “us”? I’ve been a dem all my life, and I have always voted as far left as I could. The majority of the Democratic party that is currently flocking to Biden. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/courage-to-change-another-bad-aoc-idea/848326/162 "2020-03-03T16:53:30Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The extreme right has plenty to do with Trump. > > Oh no! A young, talented progressive leader is trying to lead! How horrible! The extreme right produces Trump, not the other way around. He would be very have been elected if the Tea Party hadn’t pushed the Republican party to the right of Kasich. And it is in fact horrible that a deadly mounted inexperienced naive firebrand is is leading our even seen top be leading the Democratic party. She is a living caricature of what Republicans say we are. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/courage-to-change-another-bad-aoc-idea/848326/163 "2020-03-03T16:58:55Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Y’know, if we wake up on November 4 and Trump’s been re-elected, if I run into someone who’s all about casting blame for the loss rather than figuring out how to help America survive this catastrophe, I’m gonna spit in his face. > > Just sayin’. And what of the Bernie broods that stayed home because they didn’t get what they wanted? Is there nothing to be learned from the results of their behavior? No. Once Trump is elected, it’s game over. We will lose the majority on the court for a generation. We will lose congressional seats to redistricting for a decade. We will lose statehouses and state legislators. This isn’t about single payer vs public option, this is about democracy. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/courage-to-change-another-bad-aoc-idea/848326/164 "2020-03-03T17:05:51Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > The extreme right produces Trump, not the other way around. He would be very have been elected if the Tea Party hadn’t pushed the Republican party to the right of Kasich. > > And it is in fact horrible that a deadly mounted inexperienced naive firebrand is is leading our even seen top be leading the Democratic party. She is a living caricature of what Republicans say we are. This is gibberish. What little I can actually understand is hyperbolic nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/courage-to-change-another-bad-aoc-idea/848326/165 "2020-03-03T17:34:22Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > The extreme right produces Trump, not the other way around. He would be very have been elected if the Tea Party hadn’t pushed the Republican party to the right of Kasich. > > And it is in fact horrible that a deadly mounted inexperienced naive firebrand is is leading our even seen top be leading the Democratic party. She is a living caricature of what Republicans say we are. :rolleyes: You really miss a lot from the news uh? > **[Ted Cruz tried to mock AOC's scientific knowledge – it didn't end well](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/28/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-ted-cruz-coronavirus)** > > The Texas senator tried to pick a fight after Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez called out Mike Pence’s coronavirus credentials > [@](#): > > Ted Cruz tried to mock AOC’s scientific knowledge – it didn’t end well > > If you were in search of a scientifically minded, steadying presence to guide the country through the potential fallout of the coronavirus, you could not do much worse than Vice-President Mike Pence. > > This being the Donald Trump administration, however, where qualifications and expertise are often seen as prohibitive factors for top jobs, that’s exactly who we’ve been given. > > … > > “As governor, Pence’s science denial contributed to one of the worst HIV outbreaks in Indiana’s history,” she wrote. “He is not a medical doctor. He is not a health expert. He is not qualified nor positioned in any way to protect our public health.” > > Rushing to the defense of the administration the next day, Ted Cruz jumped into the fray. > > “As you are speaking as the oracle of science, tell us, what exactly is a Y chromosome?” Cruz responded on Twitter. “And at what age of gestation does science tell us that an unborn child feels physical pain?” > > He may have picked the wrong opponent – Ocasio-Cortez, it transpires, holds an award for microbiology from MIT. > > … > > “I’m surprised you’re asking about chromosomes given that you don’t believe in evolution,” she said. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/courage-to-change-another-bad-aoc-idea/848326/166 "2020-03-03T18:37:53Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > And what of the Bernie broods that stayed home because they didn’t get what they wanted? > > Is there nothing to be learned from the results of their behavior? > > No. Once Trump is elected, it’s game over. You agree with me, then. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/courage-to-change-another-bad-aoc-idea/848326/167 "2020-03-05T22:40:23Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > And Republicans are thrilled. They got exactly the sort of president they’ve always wanted, who is enacting exactly the sort of policies they’ve been clamoring for for years. > > Which, again, is something that I’d like to see the Democratic party get. Have you ever heard of “Never Trumpers” If you think that the Republicans have stumbled onto a strategy for winning then you might be a little shortsighted. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/courage-to-change-another-bad-aoc-idea/848326/168 "2020-03-05T22:44:13Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > _ **Bzzzzt. WRONG!** _ > > There are hundreds of thousands (or even millions?) of Americans that can be described as the hateful right – Stephen Miller and Trump himself, just for starters, right at the center of the White House itself. Trump rally-goers. Teabaggers. Hannity and Limbaugh are haters. Look at all the whites calling police when they see blacks in a public park or such. America is aflame with right-wing hatreds. Bzzzt. WRONG! There are hundreds of thousands (or even millions?) of Americans that can be described as the hateful left. [/quote] Wow, proving stuff with anecdotes is pretty easy, I wonder why people don’t use it in debates more often. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/courage-to-change-another-bad-aoc-idea/848326/169 "2020-03-05T22:45:49Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Who’s “us”? I’ve been a dem all my life, and I have always voted as far left as I could. “us” is the majority of the Democrats in this country that are going to nominate Biden because beating Trump is more important than engaging in suicidal social experiments [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/courage-to-change-another-bad-aoc-idea/848326.md?page=8)