# Court TV's Nancy Grace

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/court-tvs-nancy-grace/305542>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 26, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/court-tvs-nancy-grace/305542 "2005-05-26T02:05:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/court-tvs-nancy-grace/305542/1 "2005-05-26T02:05:21Z")

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Hey Y’all! I haven’t posted in a while, so please forgive me if this topic has been brought up before, okay?

While I like to watch Court TV, I try to avoid when she is on. Yes, I know she “draws” the audience, but the way she relates to some of her guests makes me cringe in embarrassment for them. It’s like she’s still prosecuting and IMHO has no “grace” (NPI) in questioning her guests.

Maybe it’s just me, but there’s something very mean-spirited in those eyes, and her use of the word “friend” just doesn’t work with me. I would not like to be her “Significant Other”, if she even has one…

Diane Dimond and Savannah Guthrie however, save the whole channel from being deleted off my remote.

As I said, just my opinion, but I would like to read yours.

Thanks!

Quasi

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/court-tvs-nancy-grace/305542/2 "2005-05-26T03:23:14Z")

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Yep, I hated her from the time I first saw her on Larry King several years back, and I still hate her now. She’s a shrew, condescending, presuptuous b… _checks forum_ person. I can’t remember the specific case exactly, but there was a high-profile murder about three or four years back, and her and Geragos would go at it on Larry King Live on CNN. Geragos was actually fun to watch, because he never seemed to take Nancy too seriously. Her arguments were always more based on emotion and hunches, and that’s what seriously pissed me off about her. In this particular case, she was all but ready to flip the switch on the prime suspect in the murder case. She was so confident and cocksure the suspect was guilty, and labeled anyone who gave him the benefit of a doubt as a naive fool.

Well, guess what? Turned out the guy didn’t do it in fact. They found another guy who did it (I can’t remember if he confessed or what.) But did Nancy apologize for publicly roasting the guy and playing judge, jury, and executioner on national TV? Of course not. She made some pathetic excuse like “well, with the evidence we had, it sure as hell seemed like he was guilty. Who would expect an innocent man to act like that?” Some people just never learn.

I wish I could remember the case. I think it was something in Texas. Perhaps one of our Dopers may recall it.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/court-tvs-nancy-grace/305542/3 "2005-05-26T03:26:29Z")

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[I found it.](http://poynter.org/forum/?id=letters) Scroll down to "He’s had his fill of Grace.

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> Peter Hartlaub writes the following of Nancy Grace: “It’s only a matter of time before her decision to choose heroes and villains before the story has unfolded ends badly.” But the story already has ended badly for one of Grace’s pre-selected cable victims. During the 2002 Elizabeth Smart abduction, Grace all but convicted a man named Richard Ricci of the crime.
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> In her regular spots on Larry King Live, she said that Ricci was “definitely  
> part of the story;” Ricci was eventually arrested and held without charge in a Utah prison, where he died in September 2002. Even after Ricci died, Grace directed her hound-from-hell routine at Angela Ricci, Ricci’s widow. When the crime was eventually solved, of course, it became clear that Ricci had not been involved. When Mark Geragos criticized Grace on a subequent King program for having “convicted” Ricci on the air, she indignantly denied all wrongdoing. Here’s the address of a DAILY HOWLER report which discusses this matter in detail.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/court-tvs-nancy-grace/305542/4 "2005-05-26T03:38:58Z")

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Oh, sorry. Last post and I’ll shut up. But if you follow the link in the last story that goes to the Daily Howler article, you really get to see Nancy’s true colors. This is my favorite excerpt:

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> CALLER: Hi. Is it possible for the FBI or the law officers involved in the case to use sodium pentothal on Mr. Ricci and find out if he has any involvement with this girl’s disappearance? Whether or not it can be used against him after?  
> KING: Nancy, is that allowed?
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> GRACE: Oh, how I wish, Larry! Unfortunately, it’s not allowed under our Constitution. No sodium pentothal, truth serum, **no beating, no torture**. We have to wait for Ricci to crack. That’s right.

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> Indeed, when Smart was returned to her family on March 12, King lamented the way Ricci had been convicted right there on his program. “Nancy, do you feel a little funny about all the racks [sic] we took at Mr. Ricci on this show?” he asked. Predictably, Grace replied, “No. I don’t.”

A real piece of work, that woman.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/court-tvs-nancy-grace/305542/5 "2005-05-26T03:45:32Z")

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I’ve seen her on CNN a few times, and I just loathe her attitude and shamelessness.

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**Author:** ![Campion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Campion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Campion)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/court-tvs-nancy-grace/305542/6 "2005-05-26T04:38:29Z")

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If it makes you feel any better, [the Eleventh Circuit](http://www.law.com/article.jsp.htm) doesn’t like her much either.

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Bruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Queen\_Bruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Bruin)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/court-tvs-nancy-grace/305542/7 "2005-05-26T05:24:06Z")

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She’s pretty damn annoying, but then I only watch CourtTV for Forensic Files. But I get really annoyed when I want my biased, sensational news in a nutshell on Headline News and she’s on it instead. Nice move, CNN, now I hate channel 204!

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**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/court-tvs-nancy-grace/305542/8 "2005-05-26T10:58:20Z")

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Glad to hear my knee-jerk reaction is accurate. I’ve never seen Court TV, but her commercials on CNN never fail to get a reaction in the singular household. We hate her intensely just from that commercial! It’s good to know I can still sense a bitch…

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/court-tvs-nancy-grace/305542/9 "2005-05-26T12:44:06Z")

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I believe she all but convicted the Runaway Bride’s fiance of murdering her and hiding the body in a swamp before it all turned out to be a case of cold feet. During the coverage she swore up and down that she’d handled “hundreds” of these cases and this was NO “runaway bride!”

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/court-tvs-nancy-grace/305542/10 "2005-05-26T14:26:32Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> I believe she all but convicted the Runaway Bride’s fiance of murdering her and hiding the body in a swamp before it all turned out to be a case of cold feet. During the coverage she swore up and down that she’d handled “hundreds” of these cases and this was NO “runaway bride!”

[Yep:](http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600131184,00.html)

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> Grace sided with bride  
> Nancy Grace, the victims-rights advocate turned “CNN Headline News” host, had practically lynched the fiance in earlier programs. But she was unrepentant Monday. Instead of apologizing to him, she pleaded for leniency for the woman.

Unforunately, reasoned discourse doesn’t get any ratings.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/court-tvs-nancy-grace/305542/11 "2005-05-26T15:43:30Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Unforunately, reasoned discourse doesn’t get any ratings.

We can’t really be sure of that until somebody tries it. I hope that version of reasoned discourse involves beating Nancy Grace’s brains in with a shovel.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/court-tvs-nancy-grace/305542/12 "2005-05-26T15:55:45Z")

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I liked her at first, because all I watched was her coverage of the Michael Jackson case. And I still LOVE her comments on PedoPan himself.

But I can’t stand her. She always has this look on her face like she just walked into Jabba the Hutt’s outhouse.
