# Covering the anti Trump protests

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 21, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688 "2017-01-21T04:05:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/41 "2017-01-22T06:18:01Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I think so too.
> 
> Really this rally is more of a “sore loser” thing than something really for women.
> 
> So go ahead. Spend your time and money but in the end your candidate LOST.

You get that this isn’t a football game, right?

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**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/42 "2017-01-22T07:13:41Z")

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I miss Brainglutton and Diogenes thecynic

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/43 "2017-01-22T07:18:13Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> Ahhh, now that is the big word to focus on. The money.
> 
> I’d bet every liberal group out there was pushing for new members along with more membership fees and donations.

I have to let this nonsense stand on its own, because there is no comment I could make that would not violate forum rules.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/44 "2017-01-22T08:23:31Z")

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I find funny, sad and crazy how threatened Trump and his supporters are of the women’s march. Trump’s first speech after the inauguration was about how there were more people at his inauguration than we saw with our eyes. Then his press secretary claimed it was the largest audience for an inauguration in history (it wasn’t even the largest audience for an event in DC that weekend).

It’s funny because it is so patently and provably false, it’s crazy because Trump supporters will believe it and go on line to attack what is clearly a very threatening movement to their fragile world view and it’s sad because Trump supporters are so uninformed and so filled with hate that they believe lies over what they see with their own eyes and they rush online to defend billionaires who think rural America is just another third world shit hole they can fuck over.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/45 "2017-01-22T09:25:22Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Sure is funny to see who the special snowflakes are- “Waaaah! They don’t like my hero!”

You’ve got lunatics like Rosie O’Donnell literally advocating a coup d’etat. Even if you don’t like Trump - and I don’t like Trump - you should have the wits to understand that the response is way out of proportion for the lawful election of a glorified used car salesman.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/46 "2017-01-22T10:41:44Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> Everyone I know is disgusted with Trump too. Trump still won the election. That’s the problem. I am deeply pessimistic that these protests, big as they are, will change anything. Voting is the only thing that matters.

> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I think so too.
> 
> Really this rally is more of a “sore loser” thing than something really for women.
> 
> So go ahead. Spend your time and money but in the end your candidate LOST.

For the millionth time: Trump LOST the popular vote by almost 3 million. He won the election because of the technicality of the Electoral College. He lost the popularity contest.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/47 "2017-01-22T11:58:49Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I think so too.
> 
> Really this rally is more of a “sore loser” thing than something really for women.
> 
> So go ahead. Spend your time and money but in the end your candidate LOST.

No, the country lost.  
I’ll go ahead and

[quote from Janis Ian here]  
([https://www.facebook.com/janisianpage/posts/1256196441133738](https://www.facebook.com/janisianpage/posts/1256196441133738)), as she says it better than I could:

> [@](#):
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> Thank you for posting. I appreciate your suggesting that I now “let it go” and “suck it up” because “like it or not, he’s our president.” (Or in the case of all the Australians and New Zealanders chiming in for some reason, “he’s your president now.”)  
> All right! Which part would you like me to let go of? Shall I drop the “grab pussy” part? or maybe the “gay people need conversion therapy” part, since Pence said it, not Trump?  
> How about the Muslim registry, so wonderfully reminiscent of that bright yellow star my forebears had to sew on their coats? Or maybe I should heed Trump’s statement “It’s cold in New York - we need global warming”.  
> Wait. I can suck it up and try to forget the part where he dodged the draft, then said of John McCain “I like people who weren’t captured” Wouldn’t that be patriotic?  
> And as a Jersey girl, I could just “suck up” and “let go” of the part where he said “thousands and thousands of people” in Jersey City were cheering as the World Trade Center buildings fell.  
> Wait, I know! Let’s forget freedom of the press, his veiled threats to allow White House briefing access only to periodicals that agree with him. Suck on that, you liberal swine. Maybe I can also let go of the part where he threatens newspapers with changes in the libel laws, so he can sue them - and I can suck up to the National Enquirer, owned and run by Trump’s dear friends.  
> Wait! My grandparents were always terrified they’d have to prove they had a right to be in America, so even though it was always illegal to require it, they carried their “papers” with them everywhere. Yeah, if there’d been a Jew Registry, they could already have been counted.  
> How about I about I let go of him saying “An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud”? Or when he said Mexico would pay for “the wall”, except now we have to front the money?  
> Or my personal favorite, the part where he promises and promises to release his tax returns if he’s elected…  
> C’mon, James. Which part should I let go of first?  
> No no no!!! I take it all back! I want to let go of this part, because somehow, I can’t un-hear it. I can’t un-see it. And I sure as hell can’t “suck up to it”:  
> “I did try and fuck her. She was married. I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look. I’ve gotta use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything… Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.” Donald J. Trump  
> Nice. Go after married women. Cheat on your first two wives (at least). Kiss someone who doesn’t invite it and consider yourself a “magnet”. How presidential.  
> Yes, folks. I’ll “suck it up” and “let it go”. When hell freezes over.

Preach it, Janis. Trump may be _the_ President, but he will never be _my_ President.  
He is the very epitome of the phrase “the banality of evil”.  
He is a liar, on all matters great and small.  
He is a petty, narcissistic fool, with no sense of honour or class.  
He has accomplished nothing of note, despite starting with all of the possible advantages a person could have.

Yes, he won the election. That does not mean that he gets a pass on his behaviour. He will be held accountable for his words and actions. He _is_ being held accountable for his words and actions. Just the things that he has said and done so far indicate that he is unsuited to the presidency, and I am astonished that anyone can bring themselves to say otherwise.

By the way, [somewhere between 3.5 and 4.5 _million_](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xa0iLqYKz8x9Yc_rfhtmSOJQ2EGgeUVjvV4A8LsIaxY/htmlview?sle=true) people have taken part in the protests. Are you going to so lightly dismiss their concerns?

Silly question. Of course you can. They’re not you, your single, solitary self; you have no concern for their feelings, their fears, and their knowledge. All you know is that you feel threatened by the world changing, and would do anything, and sacrifice anyone, to bring back that feeling of smug security. A security that you are unwilling to share beyond your small, petty circle.

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**Author:** ![stosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@stosh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stosh)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/48 "2017-01-22T12:24:55Z")

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I’m just glad that Madonna could find time in her busy, busy life to support her fellow women.

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/49 "2017-01-22T12:36:12Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Whatever it may be termed, opposing something takes a lot of energy, and is bad for the health, and drains emotions, etc. And without a doubt, there are also many anti-Trumpers who genuinely hate Trump, even if their opposition isn’t ultimately about hate for hate’s sake.

You’re right. That’s why I’m considering making a recurring monthly donation to a progressive organization opposing Trump’s agenda, and otherwise stay unplugged from the news. I can fight Trump and avoiding stressing myself out at the same time.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/50 "2017-01-22T13:18:41Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I think so too.
> 
> Really this rally is more of a “sore loser” thing than something really for women.

FYI, I did a quick ask-around to confirm. Not one person anywhere gives a solitary fuck what you think.

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**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/51 "2017-01-22T13:22:14Z")

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These protests are a good morale-booster for the Democrats when they badly need it. Whether they actually mean anything will be determined in the 2018 elections. Wave elections like 2010, 2006 and 1994 happen when the out-of-power party can persuade 80-85% of their general election voters to turn out for the mid-term. Getting your base amped up is a good start but what matters more is selecting good candidates, making sure they have enough money and organization and having an appealing national message.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/52 "2017-01-22T13:27:08Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> You’ve got lunatics like Rosie O’Donnell literally advocating a coup d’etat. Even if you don’t like Trump - and I don’t like Trump - you should have the wits to understand that the response is way out of proportion for the lawful election of a glorified used car salesman.

If only it was that innocuous. All a used car salesman can do is rip you off. This psychopath has the ability to start WW III over a tweet that hurts his precious feelings, he can wreck the economy by looting the treasury for his fat cat buddies, he can set women’s rights back a century, and if he had his fucking way all the Muslims and Mexicans would be in concentration camps.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/53 "2017-01-22T14:02:34Z")

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Yes, there are some pretentious celebrities saying some dumb things on the left, on the other hand, Donald Trump, the president of the United States is raving like a madman at the CIA and tweeting about the ratings of the Apprentice. I don’t think any has given Rosie the launch codes.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/54 "2017-01-22T16:04:35Z")

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It sure is funny that when Rosie O’Donnell says something silly it reflects on all liberals and all democrats, but when the President says something silly they are suddenly deaf, blind ,and mute.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/55 "2017-01-22T16:15:20Z")

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Yeah, Does Rosie O’Donell even work any more? Is she on a show or anything? The first time I thought about her at all in years was when the GOP candidate for president mentioned her for some fucking reason and now the Republicans are all convinced she’s our leader.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/56 "2017-01-22T16:28:33Z")

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Since it seems to concern **Grumman** so much, I’d like to state for the record that Rosie O’Donnell does not speak for me or anyone else I know, and that neither I nor anyone else I know is in favor of a _coup d’état_. At this time. 😃

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/57 "2017-01-22T16:37:54Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> Ahhh, now that is the big word to focus on. The money.
> 
> I’d bet every liberal group out there was pushing for new members along with more membership fees and donations.

So what? Organization is expensive in both time and money. Every group I support asks for donations and to those I give it gladly.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/58 "2017-01-22T16:39:10Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> Sore losers?
> 
> What the fuck is wrong with you?
> 
> You voted for Donald Fucking Trump. You made this maniac the president, and now you’re crying your eyes out that people don’t like him.

Please try to keep discussion civil.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/59 "2017-01-22T16:49:43Z")

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Since you supported him, some measure of responsibility falls to you. And your contribution has some effect, however small, therefore it is unseemly for you to be upset that he is not as popular as you might wish.

I hope that’s good enough, it kinda hurts.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covering-the-anti-trump-protests/777688/60 "2017-01-22T17:22:14Z")

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Odd, I watched the marches through much of the day via the internet. I looked at crowd photos, people’s FB & Twitter feeds, and even updated reports from CNN.

You know what I saw nothing of? FUCKING CELEBRITIES!

I had no flipping idea Madonna was even speaking until the Trumpettes informed us - after shoving a monocle in their eye socket so it could pop appropriately.

I had no idea Rosie O’Donnel was there, let alone cared, until the Orange Brigade reacted with their processed outrage-in-a-can to inform us of the horrors of which she spoke.

Fuck that shit. You guys had a literal Nazi happy to attend the inauguration (until the Anarchist elbow shot him) but nobody points at him and assumes everyone in the sparsely attended Trumpification was going to start ethnic genocide tomorrow.

BTW: Dismissing crowds like this as whining and handwaving, is a disservice and smacks of desperation. Remember that the Democarts made this mistake with the Tea Party protests in 2009, which had much, much smaller numbers and nowhere near the legitimate concerns (but plenty of racism! Mm got lots of that!).

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