# COVID-19 and the Hillary Presidency. How do you think it unfolds?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-and-the-hillary-presidency-how-do-you-think-it-unfolds/850117>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 23, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-and-the-hillary-presidency-how-do-you-think-it-unfolds/850117 "2020-03-23T20:17:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-and-the-hillary-presidency-how-do-you-think-it-unfolds/850117/41 "2020-03-25T03:34:08Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Kindly point out the specific ways in which the Trump administration has shown leadership and competence in handling this crisis. What did Trump accomplish that HRC could/would not have under the same circumstances?

> [@Magiver](#):
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> HRC watched the people die in Benghazi and did nothing. Trump responded to attacks on US assets in Iraq with a show of force and then took out the main figure who coordinated the effort.

You might want to get your eyes checked. I don’t see anything about Benghazi in the post by **QuickSilver**.

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-and-the-hillary-presidency-how-do-you-think-it-unfolds/850117/42 "2020-03-25T13:33:37Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Do we have collective amnesia as to how the press treated Hillary? They weren’t exactly fawning of her.

To heck they weren’t!

CNN was called the Clinton News Network for a reason.

The press was one big kiss up and now they are doing the same for Biden.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-and-the-hillary-presidency-how-do-you-think-it-unfolds/850117/43 "2020-03-25T13:37:00Z")

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CNN was called the “Clinton News Network” by fragile snowflakes who had to literally _create their own biased news network_ to feed them a palatable salve of lies.

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-and-the-hillary-presidency-how-do-you-think-it-unfolds/850117/44 "2020-03-25T14:24:26Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> There hasn’t been a global pandemic like this for a 102 years. She won’t do any better.

Respectfully disagree.

She’s not my cup of tea, never has been.

But she is intelligent, competent, hard-working, experienced, and willing to listen to experts. I would trust her judgement.

I don’t trust Donald Trump to do anything. I have not one iota of belief that he would act in anyone’s interest but his own.

His entire presidency has proven he is utterly unfit.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-and-the-hillary-presidency-how-do-you-think-it-unfolds/850117/45 "2020-03-25T15:16:05Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> To heck they weren’t!
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> CNN was called the Clinton News Network for a reason.
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> The press was one big kiss up and now they are doing the same for Biden.

Nah. That’s you’re right-wing biased perspective talking. They reported the dirt as the shit hit the fan, and a good reason Clinton was not elected was because the mainstream media went with whatever the sensationalist story of the day was. If they really were the laughable “Clinton News Network” they would have buried all that shit. They covered the fake “email” story with the rest of them, along with Benghazi and all the other bullshit. Don’t give me this alternate narrative that they were kissing up to her the whole time. They had no problem running with news that was hurtful to her, as long as it got eyes on their channel and site. How often does Fox run news counter to Our Dear Leader now?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-and-the-hillary-presidency-how-do-you-think-it-unfolds/850117/46 "2020-03-25T16:27:30Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> The Senate still led by McConnell so more or less the same stimulus fight we’re seeing now.

Actually I think that the Senate would probably play it even more hardball than they are now. Right now McConnell wants to deal because if the economy goes bust its his guy who is going to get the blame. With Clinton in charge, he would demand a pretty big price for not standing in the way and letting everything go to hell.

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-and-the-hillary-presidency-how-do-you-think-it-unfolds/850117/47 "2020-03-25T16:31:20Z")

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I think a decently competent international response would’ve been in place by now. Given Trump, it’s everyone (hell even every State) for themselves.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-and-the-hillary-presidency-how-do-you-think-it-unfolds/850117/48 "2020-03-25T16:32:04Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> There hasn’t been a global pandemic like this for a 102 years. She won’t do any better.

From a distance it might not be clear just how incompetent Trump is and has always been.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-and-the-hillary-presidency-how-do-you-think-it-unfolds/850117/49 "2020-03-25T16:57:13Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> From a distance it might not be clear just how incompetent Trump is and has always been.

Well, he has run multiple oceanfront casinos–a business with a statistically guaranteed yield provided you can get people through the doors—in a resort town that serves the entire New York Tri-State area into bankruptcy. This, among his [many other business failures](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trumps-13-biggest-business-failures-59556/), should be evident to anyone who hasn’t decided to join a cult with a red ball cap fetish and a propensity to mindlessly repeat the words of [screaming conspiranoist YouTube hucksters](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-lists/alex-jones-mis-infowars-7-bat-sht-conspiracy-theories-195468/former-fox-news-host-glenn-beck-is-a-cia-operative-114463/) and a [fraudulent “man of the people”](https://youtu.be/RNineSEoxjQ).

Stranger

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**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-and-the-hillary-presidency-how-do-you-think-it-unfolds/850117/50 "2020-03-25T17:24:10Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> CNN was called the “Clinton News Network” by fragile snowflakes who had to literally _create their own biased news network_ to feed them a palatable salve of lies.

Certainly for as long as I’ve been alive, “the only reason you don’t hear about all of our successes is that the media is biased against us” has been the go-to excuse for right-wing failures. Frankly it got old after the first few decades.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-and-the-hillary-presidency-how-do-you-think-it-unfolds/850117/51 "2020-03-25T17:47:56Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> HRC watched the people die in Benghazi and did nothing. Trump responded to attacks on US assets in Iraq with a show of force and then took out the main figure who coordinated the effort.

Given time and opportunity, _this_ is what were able to come up with? Well, if nothing is the best you’ve got, it’ll have to do.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covid-19-and-the-hillary-presidency-how-do-you-think-it-unfolds/850117/52 "2020-03-25T18:38:50Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Given time and opportunity, _this_ is what were able to come up with? Well, if nothing is the best you’ve got, it’ll have to do.

There is really no value in even responding to…people…like this. Of course, any actual discussion about the ethical lapses of the Clintons would invite comparisons to the Trump family, like he and his sons’ charity tax shelters or his fraudulent “university” over which he had to pay a $25M settlement to his “clients”, so that isn’t a fruitful road to go down. Easier to just keep screaming “Benghazi! Emails! Vince Foster! Pizzagate!” at the top of their lungs until everyone walks away in disgust.

Stranger

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