# Covington Catholic High (in case it hasn't been mentioned already) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090 "2019-01-20T02:23:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/421 "2019-01-22T19:34:02Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Obese? The very attractive young woman in the clip? You really are a piece of shit. Just report it. This is exactly the kind of thing I was under the impression the Dope was cracking down on; hopefully if enough people report someone will notice. 🙂 Also, anyone surprised to hear that Trump is planning to invite these kids to the white house? > > [@](#): > > EXCLUSIVE on the new #LauraIngrahamPodcast — the Covington Catholic students threatened by the leftist internet mob will be meeting with @realDonaldTrump at the White House as early as tomorrow. @iTunes @PodcastOne ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/422 "2019-01-22T19:35:52Z")
Where did the kids get their MAGA hats? Did they buy them there? Did they buy them back home? Were they handed out to them as part of the trip? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/423 "2019-01-22T19:43:29Z")
Laura Ingraham claims that the Covington kids have been invited to the White House. First, nobody at the White House has confirmed it, second, why aren’t they back home in school, and third, why? > **[Students in MAGA hats from viral video to meet with Trump at White House, Fox...](https://www.newschannel5.com/news/national/students-in-maga-hats-from-viral-video-to-meet-with-trump-at-white-house)** > > The students from Covington Catholic High School in Kentucky who were seen in a viral video wearing "Make American Great Again" hats in a controversial encounter with a Native American elder will be meeting with U.S. President Donald Trump, according... ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/424 "2019-01-22T19:44:31Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > Can you point to where you think this is being done because I don’t see it in the only video on that page. If you mean where the kid is out front and eventually takes off his shirt, I think that that’s a choreographed cheer and they’re yelling “AAH!”. It sounded like WALL to me. It was definitely choreographed but the choreography is consistent with the WALL chant. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/425 "2019-01-22T19:48:46Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > For someone who constantly bitches about “censorship”, you sure post a lot. Besides being repressed constantly, what the fuck do you do here? Read opposing views. Learn recipes in the Pit. Poke my head into a few of the other forums when I have something, on topic, to add. I don’t usually post to just say me too or answer questions satisfactorily answered. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/426 "2019-01-22T19:56:01Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > It sounded like WALL to me. It was definitely choreographed but the choreography is consistent with the WALL chant. Yes these guys are clearly masters of interpretive dance. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/427 "2019-01-22T19:58:07Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Read opposing views. Learn recipes in the Pit. Poke my head into a few of the other forums when I have something, on topic, to add. I don’t usually post to just say me too or answer questions satisfactorily answered. You forgot bitching about swearing in the forum where swearing is allowed when you have nothing of actual value to add to the conversation, shit-for-brains. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/428 "2019-01-22T20:00:24Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Yes these guys are clearly masters of interpretive dance. It thinks it is being clever-how cute! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/429 "2019-01-22T20:10:58Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > I think white folks came up with this crime called “menacing”. I don’t know much about it, but it fits the bill, after all, this law was written by white folks, passed by folks, affirmed by a white president/governor, and adjudicated by a white judges. So, it must be a legit law, right? Phillips said he was fearful. We should believe him, just like we believe your white supremacist cops were “fearful” when they murder [people of color.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Amadou_Diallo) As for “thug”, where were you when Trayvon Martin and [Tamir Rice](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/30/1464858/-Miami-Police-Union-president-says-Tamir-Rice-was-acting-like-a-thug-and-was-treated-like-a-thug)were referred to as thugs? These children had no criminal record. One of these children likely hadn’t even entered puberty yet. Meanwhile, the white animals refer to[Charles Manson](https://www.newsweek.com/charles-manson-was-loving-compassionate-man-who-cared-about-environment-says-721486?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social)as “loving” and “compassionate”. What a fucking joke. I hardly think what happened here, based on what I could see (and the fact that the kid, or anyone I think, was arrested on such a charge) was menacing. And what in the everloving fuck is it with “my” white supremacist cops? I said characterizing the kid as a thug wasn’t fair, and FTR, neither was it fair in the Trayvon Martin case either. Jeez. > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I think that “menacing” is a bullshit, dehumanizing description when it’s applied to teenagers as an excuse to use violence against them. And I think dehumanizing teenagers is a profoundly shitty thing to do. What about you? Exactly. Especially since the waters have now been so muddied with all these varying descriptions and videos with what happened. The whole thing is a sorry mess and shameful all around. But worth destroying someone’s life over? Fuck no. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/430 "2019-01-22T20:23:24Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I lead younger kids on field trips, and supervise them a lot more closely. Teenagers deserve a lot more freedom, absolutely. But I don’t think I’d send a bunch of teens wearing Act Up! t-shirts unsupervised onto the National Mall on a day where there were multiple competing protests. That would be deeply irresponsible. > > And MAGA hats are way shittier than Act Up! t-shirts. I can’t imagine doing so either, but that’s because I wouldn’t be there in the first place. Once you’ve got it in your head that it’s okay to take kids to wave fetus pictures in someone’s face, you clearly don’t think it’s your job to help them avoid confrontation. I guess I feel like if the situation is so dire that you literally can’t let 16 year olds out of your immediate sight for 30 minutes, you shouldn’t be there at all. If they aren’t safe unsupervised, they aren’t safe supervised. ---
**Author:** ![Kyomara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kyomara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyomara)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/431 "2019-01-22T21:18:50Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > And yet I was right. > [https://theslot.jezebel.com/covington-catholic-student-hired-pr-firm-co-founded-by-1831948833](https://theslot.jezebel.com/covington-catholic-student-hired-pr-firm-co-founded-by-1831948833) You’re still wrong to assume that a 16 year old couldn’t write like that, and to assume that the fact that a PR firm had a hand in it means that it’s not true. Again, the kid is a MAGA dipshit, but every video backs up his account. Even Phillips’s statement backs it up. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/432 "2019-01-22T21:22:09Z")
If they do meet with Trump, it’ll be interesting to see if he serves them lunch. I wonder what he’ll have in store for The Kentucky All Whites. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/433 "2019-01-22T21:42:41Z")
> [@Kyomara](#): > > You’re still wrong to assume that a 16 year old couldn’t write like that, and to assume that the fact that a PR firm had a hand in it means that it’s not true. > > Again, the kid is a MAGA dipshit, but every video backs up his account. Even Phillips’s statement backs it up. No, every video does not back up his account. Try again. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/434 "2019-01-22T21:43:55Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Now this kid is a thug? Thugs commit crimes. Just poking a little fun at our right wing friends, who would have thrown that word around with abandon. I don’t really think he’s a thug (though I do think he’s an asshole) ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/435 "2019-01-22T21:49:20Z")
> [@Kyomara](#): > > Again, the kid is a MAGA dipshit, but every video backs up his account. Even Phillips’s statement backs it up. Disagree. Josh Marshall at TPM: I’m sure there was some element of being startled or even confused. Few of us are ever thinking only one thing in a chaotic situation. But I see no way to reconcile Sandmann’s claims with what’s actually on the video. He can be seen hipping and hawing around Phillips like the rest of the kids just before the stand off and he seems more cocky and defiant than anything like trying to appeal for calm in the video that went viral. Eyewitnesses claim they heard the boys making various denigrating remarks about Native Americans. I heard some of those on the video but not all of them. Phillips and Sandmann gave conflicting accounts of whether Sandmann refused to move as Phillips tried to walk up the steps. At least the video itself makes it hard to resolve that. …But again, I don’t think Sandmann’s explanation is credible. I think he decided to stand his ground, get in the guy’s face, and smile a kind of satisfied smile to show he wasn’t backing down. Meanwhile, his friends are surrounding both of them, goofing, taunting, jeering. Again, the chopping hand motion tells the story. [Making Sense of the Phillips-Sandmann Viral Video - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/making-sense-of-the-phillips-sandman-viral-video) When someone is moving from point A to point B in a crowded public space, you step aside. I’m surprised this even needs explaining frankly. The steps were behind Smirkface: the teen was blocking traffic. Now again, teens do stupid shit. I’m dismayed by the lack of remorse or reflection in the PR assisted public statement. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/436 "2019-01-22T22:02:19Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Yeah, you don’t care either, buddy. You’re just pretending outrage. > > Here’s a challenge for you: the most visible recent victim of mob mentality is Dr Ford, who’s had to move several times to avoid death threats simply because she testified that she’d been attacked by a conservative. > > Now, either show that you actually care about mob mentality by linking your posts decrying those mob attacks, or fuck off with your pretend outrage, internet tough guy. > [@Ale](#): > > …But if you insist, can you point to me to a similar thread created here at the SDMB with the purpose of attacking Ford, where people engage in Internet mob behaviour, condone and incite bullying and harassment? Blah blah blah… I didn’t bother reading 90% of this shit. I got to the point where you admitted you didn’t bother to stick up for Dr. Ford, and then I stopped. The rest, I assume, is pathetic rationalization of your complete failure to uphold the principles you claim to uphold, and then more whinging about how I don’t pretend to uphold the same principles you don’t uphold. The way I see it you have three choices here: 1) you can continue to whinge about how other people don’t pretend to believe in the same principles you pretend to believe in (your current course), 2) you can go actually act on your supposed principles, then next time you get challenged you can triumphantly point to the post you made defending Dr Ford from the actual internet mob (this would require effort on your part), or 3) You could fuck off with your pretend outrage. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/437 "2019-01-22T22:04:18Z")
> [@Kyomara](#): > > You’re still wrong to assume that a 16 year old couldn’t write like that, and to assume that the fact that a PR firm had a hand in it means that it’s not true. I once read a book written by a nationally celebrated 16-year-old author. It was about dragons. It was shit. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/438 "2019-01-22T22:14:23Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Just poking a little fun at our right wing friends, who would have thrown that word around with abandon. I don’t really think he’s a thug (though I do think he’s an asshole) I think he is a punk, in the pre-80’s, non-musical genre meaning. A shitty little trumpy punk. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/439 "2019-01-22T22:20:27Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > When someone is moving from point A to point B in a crowded public space, you step aside. I’m surprised this even needs explaining frankly. The steps were behind Smirkface: the teen was blocking traffic. Now again, teens do stupid shit. I’m dismayed by the lack of remorse or reflection in the PR assisted public statement. (post shortened) The steps at the Lincoln Memorial are approximately 100 feet wide. Plenty of room to pass around the targeted teenager, and proceed to the top of the steps, IF that had been the intention of the old man, and his entourage. It wasn’t. It appears that the old men, and his entourage, were looking to create an incident that would give their cause some airplay. Thanks to the usual racists, Democrats, and lame stream media-types, they hit the jackpot with the help of the usual mob mentality. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/440 "2019-01-22T22:25:10Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > No, every video does not back up his account. Try again. Every video of this particular incident shows the teenager standing on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. The teenager didn’t say a word to the old men, or to his video recording entourage. Better luck next time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090.md?page=23)