# Covington Catholic High (in case it hasn't been mentioned already) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090 "2019-01-20T02:23:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/481 "2019-01-23T05:26:35Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Not if you are in the middle of a mob. If a mob is blocking you on your right, your left, your center, and your back, it’s best to halt. The width of the steps is irrelevant. Your argument is sadface. Hahahaha. The old man, and his entourage, weren’t in the middle of a mob. The old man chose to walk past the Black Hebrew Israelites, and chose instead to walk up to the teenager and start a confrontation. His choice. The usual suspects immediately jumped on the let’s-hate-white-people bandwagon, and condemned the teenager for wearing clothes that the haters do not approve of. Does “sadface” mean your feelings were hurt, or is that one of those infamous dog whistles that only Democrats can hear? You’re a hoot. “_Your argument is sadface_.” That there is comedy gold. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/482 "2019-01-23T05:30:32Z")
> [@sps49sd](#): > > How much of the longer videos (i’ve seen two from different cameras, each over an hour long) did you watch? I think if you watch from when you first hear Phillips’ drumming that you will note the school crowd is mostly stationary, Phillips is walking mostly parallel to them, gets close in front of one student, then moves to the next in line, Smirky McSmirkface, and stays in front of him. I saw one clip with a 360 pan. It showed that the veteran was entirely surrounded by the crowd. But it also missed the part where Smirky and veteran moved towards one another. So while I can say that Smirky wasn’t giving way, I don’t know about first contact. > [@](#): > > And if I understand Phillips in interviews later, if he is trying to calm the situation, he should want to stay in between the groups, not move through the students to the other side. Not clear. Not clear because… > [@](#): > > The crowd surrounded him after Phillips stopped, apparently to get good camera shots or just to see. This. The whole point was to create a distraction. I haven’t studied crowd control at all, but this seems to me from my limited experience to be a viable strategy, albeit a dangerous one. In my dojo, we are told that it’s best not to be surrounded by potential assailants, but rather to escape to the periphery. > [@](#): > > I don’t get why someone is in the wrong for standing where they are. I especially don’t understand the virulence. The teens were hacking around, which is what teens do. There was some mockery directed against the Native American, of the sort that the chaperones should have attempted to curb in some way. They didn’t. Smirky wasn’t just standing around: he was getting in the drummer’s personal space. If a performer is making his way through a crowd, you step aside. Some virulence is appropriate towards the school I think: they permitted a kid in blackface at a school basketball game a few years back, among other irresponsible acts. I think the teens need a talking to, with perhaps a community service assignment. I wouldn’t expel them. I do think it’s reasonable for the wider community to doubt whether the Diocese will do the right thing, but I would be happy to be pleasantly surprised. More generally, for years high schools have sent teens over to the March for Life demonstrations, without providing adequate guidance on how to conduct yourself in a public and urban space. That should stop. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/483 "2019-01-23T05:35:38Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Tell me something, Stonewall, which little bitch is getting his daddy to hire a PR firm to change his fucking diapers? It’s not Nathan Philips, who by the way is someone who actually served in combat, not some internet warrior bitch boy. That’s the whole irony here: little white suburbanite princess, all smug, all tough with his MAGA hat on, staring down a guy who’s been shot at in the jungles of SE Asia. According to the [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Phillips_(activist)), Phillips did not serve in combat. Phillips was a Marine and did serve during the Vietnam era. He is also a blame sight better human being than “poor little rich boy” with the smirk. Another also: according to note 14 of that same wiki page, this is not his first time being harassed by students. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/484 "2019-01-23T05:36:46Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Hahahaha. The old man, and his entourage, weren’t in the middle of a mob. The old man chose to walk past the Black Hebrew Israelites, and chose instead to walk up to the teenager and start a confrontation. His choice. I’ve linked to it before, but this clip shows that the veteran was surrounded by the mob, the one he marched into. [https://twitter.com/lisasharper/status/1087197895999262721](https://twitter.com/lisasharper/status/1087197895999262721) There was a better depiction of it in post 12, but it was taken down. > [@](#): > > The usual suspects immediately jumped on the let’s-hate-white-people bandwagon, and condemned the teenager for wearing clothes that the haters do not approve of. More modern conservative paranoia. > [@](#): > > Does “sadface” mean your feelings were hurt, or is that one of those infamous dog whistles that only Democrats can hear? You’re a hoot. “_Your argument is sadface_.” That there is comedy gold. I’m saying that your argument is pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/485 "2019-01-23T05:43:41Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > That’s the whole irony here: little white suburbanite princess, all smug, all tough with his MAGA hat on, staring down a guy who’s been shot at in the jungles of SE Asia. The most recent reports seem to indicate that he did not in fact serve in Vietnam. He was in the Marine Corps from 1972 to 1976, but was not deployed to Vietnam. I don’t know if he represented himself as a combat veteran of Vietnam or simply as a Vietnam-_era_ veteran. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/486 "2019-01-23T05:44:57Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > I’ve linked to it before, but this clip shows that the veteran was surrounded by the mob, the one he marched into. [https://twitter.com/lisasharper/status/1087197895999262721](https://twitter.com/lisasharper/status/1087197895999262721) > There was a better depiction of it in post 12, but it was taken down. More modern conservative paranoia. I’m saying that your argument is pathetic. That is so sadface. (Did I use it right? These made up words of yours are to to amusing. Make up another one. Please.) ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/487 "2019-01-23T05:47:22Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Tell me something, Stonewall, which little bitch is getting his daddy to hire a PR firm to change his fucking diapers? It’s not Nathan Philips, who by the way is someone who actually served in combat, not some internet warrior bitch boy. That’s the whole irony here: little white suburbanite princess, all smug, all tough with his MAGA hat on, staring down a guy who’s been shot at in the jungles of SE Asia. So Monty provided the fact check concerning the so-called Vietnam combat hero so no need to comment on that. And here you are misgendering and using gendered insults on a child who had the audacity to wear a non-hive approved hat. And you are too dishonest to comment on the homophobic BI contingent. Of course. Sad!! With two exclamation points. That should be Despondent. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/488 "2019-01-23T06:09:18Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > So Monty provided the fact check concerning the so-called Vietnam combat hero so no need to comment on that. And here you are misgendering and using gendered insults on a child who had the audacity to wear a non-hive approved hat. > > And you are too dishonest to comment on the homophobic BI contingent. Of course. > > Sad!! > > With two exclamation points. That should be Despondent. So fucking what? He didn’t serve in Vietnam (I was going off of earlier reports I saw in the news, which were inaccurate). He was in the service and has still has given more service to this country than MAGA hat teen - and most conservatives. FTR, Stonewall, I never defended Black Israelites or whatever they’re called. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/489 "2019-01-23T06:31:24Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > So fucking what? He didn’t serve in Vietnam (I was going off of earlier reports I saw in the news, which were inaccurate). He was in the service and has still has given more service to this country than MAGA hat teen - and most conservatives. > > FTR, Stonewall, I never defended Black Israelites or whatever they’re called. He did serve. Probably got spat on by your filthy 70s ilk as well. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/490 "2019-01-23T06:34:49Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > He did serve. Probably got spat on by your filthy 70s ilk as well. No worse than you shit-ass armchair warriors cheering for wars based on manipulated intelligence (i.e. lies). You are a piece of skunk shit - and that’s an insult to skunks and their shit. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/491 "2019-01-23T06:50:53Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > No worse than you shit-ass armchair warriors cheering for wars based on manipulated intelligence (i.e. lies). You are a piece of skunk shit - and that’s an insult to skunks and their shit. Asahshi, don’t you have nutty minorities to white knight, children to threaten and misgender, fetuses to abort, and military folk to spit on somewhere? You and your ‘condition’ have almost, \*almost \*, made me reconsider my opposition to socialized medicine. That’s a damn miracle! That miracle is now making me question my lack of religious faith. Two miracles in one thread?1? That almost qualifies you to be saint ahahassi, patron saint of deranged message board loons. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/492 "2019-01-23T07:05:22Z")
“Filthy 70’s ilk”? Clearly, you mean to be insulting, but its a little like a crippled puppy threatening to bite. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/493 "2019-01-23T07:09:36Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “Filthy 70’s ilk”? Clearly, you mean to be insulting, but its a little like a crippled puppy threatening to bite. What you are saying is I am to insults as you are to funny one-liners? ☹ That’s harsh. Even for the pit. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/494 "2019-01-23T08:38:19Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > No worse than you shit-ass armchair warriors cheering for wars based on manipulated intelligence (i.e. lies). You are a piece of skunk shit - and that’s an insult to skunks and their shit. Isn’t the bit about soldiers being spit upon UL? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/495 "2019-01-23T09:13:54Z")
Man it’s funny how all it takes to get bookings on national talk shows and invited to the white house is to be loud, shitty bigots and go viral with it. I’m sure there will be no consequences for encouraging this kind of behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/496 "2019-01-23T09:55:35Z")
Personally I don’t give a shit who approached who and what each and every person there’s true motive was because I know without a shadow of a doubt that if all those white kids with MAGA hats were replaced with black kids with Obama shirts, police would have been called and shots would have been fired. So I care not one fucking whit how much these racist, privileged, smirking white dickheads feelings have been hurt. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/497 "2019-01-23T10:00:29Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Man it’s funny how all it takes to get bookings on national talk shows and invited to the white house is to be loud, shitty bigots and go viral with it. I’m sure there will be no consequences for encouraging this kind of behavior. [Same as it ever was](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Hat_Riot). ---
**Author:** ![ElderSign](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eldersign/32/8263_2.png) [@ElderSign](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElderSign)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/498 "2019-01-23T11:57:07Z")
> **[How the video confrontation between Catholic students and a Native American...](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/us/lincoln-memorial-rally-video-viral-trnd/index.html)** > > The discussion over what happened between competing groups of people on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial on Friday doesn't appear to be going away anytime soon. “the tweeter was able to sway the opinions of many people with just one tweet. It’s the latest example of social media’s glaring problem: snap judgments, without full context, spread by people who themselves could be trying to deceive or sway opinions.” ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/499 "2019-01-23T12:51:28Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Personally I don’t give a shit who approached who and what each and every person there’s true motive was because I know without a shadow of a doubt that if all those white kids with MAGA hats were replaced with black kids with Obama shirts, **police would have been called and shots would have been fired.** So I care not one fucking whit how much these racist, privileged, smirking white dickheads feelings have been hurt. Holy shit you people are detached from reality. Nothing remotely like that has ever happened during the Obama nor the Trump administration. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/500 "2019-01-23T12:55:47Z")
> [@thirdname](#): > > Holy shit you people are detached from reality. Nothing remotely like that has ever happened during the Obama nor the Trump administration. [At the Ferguson, MO protests](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_unrest#/media/File:Sharpshooter_facing_camera.jpg). Shots weren’t actually fired, sure, but black people protesting sometimes encounter a smidge of an overreaction from law enforcement. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090.md?page=26)