# Covington Catholic High (in case it hasn't been mentioned already)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090 "2019-01-20T02:23:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/561 "2019-01-23T23:26:55Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> it shows lots of ordinary black people wearing MAGA hats. That’s what was asked for, and what I provided.

How many rows down do I have to go before I see ‘lots’ of ordinary black people wearing MAGA hats?

I can’t argue with you about whether there are ‘lots’ of ordinary black people there wearing MAGA hats at that link, because Google Images will keep showing more images as long as I keep scrolling down. There’s no way to disprove your contention, because there’s always more rows.

So tell me, what’s ‘lots’ of blacks wearing MAGA hats, and how many rows down do I have to go before I see that many?

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**Author:** ![Elmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e9a140/32.png) [@Elmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmore)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/562 "2019-01-23T23:39:27Z")

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[Rasmussen Poll: Trump at 36% approval among African Americans](https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1013212002)

Even if we cut that in half because it’s Rasmussen that’s still about 7 million pro Trump black Americans. Let’s assume 1% of them have MAGA hats. That’s 70 thousand. Is that enough?

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/563 "2019-01-23T23:45:23Z")

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There is something strange going on with Google, then. Because when I click the same link, I can count seven black people in MAGA hats, one of which is Kanye, just in the first screen. I also see Jack Black, and a couple of pictures of the covington kid. That’s on an ipad, before I even scroll.

For example, this is the image I see in the top left of the screen:

[https://goo.gl/images/qzQJTR](https://goo.gl/images/qzQJTR)

If you aren’t seeing that, then Google is lying when it says it doesn’t manipulate search results for individual users. We should all be seeing the same thing. If you don’t, try going to duck duck go and search for ‘black people wearing Maga Hats’. I just did, and I get a screenful of nothing but…wait for it…black people wearing MAGA hats.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/564 "2019-01-23T23:48:16Z")

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Pat Cipollone, Individual 1’s White House attorney, is a graduate of Covington Catholic High School.

He is a former adviser to the president on the special counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 elections.

> **[Who knew? Trump's top White House attorney is Covington Catholic High School...](https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/22/covington-catholic-trumps-white-house-lawyer-went-kentucky-school/2650238002/)**
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> The firestorm surrounding Covington Catholic has brought to light that one of the school's most prominent graduates happens to be President Trump's top White House attorney.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/565 "2019-01-23T23:49:53Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> When I clicked on your link, there was literally only one black person in a MAGA hat, and that was noted lunatic Kanye West. Every other picture was either a black person in a red BLM hat, or Jack Black in a parody MAGA hat. While I don’t actually doubt your contention that Trump has some black supporters, it’s sort of hilarious how completely your cite failed to demonstrate that.

Yep, that is also why a Google Vomit is such a shitty way to debate.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/566 "2019-01-23T23:54:18Z")

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> [@Elmore](#):
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> [Rasmussen Poll: Trump at 36% approval among African Americans](https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1013212002)
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> Even if we cut that in half because it’s Rasmussen that’s still about 7 million pro Trump black Americans. Let’s assume 1% of them have MAGA hats. That’s 70 thousand. Is that enough?

Well, for Trump, at about ~$20 a hat, that’s $1,400,000. It’s a good start I suppose. You can pay off hookers with that kind of money.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/567 "2019-01-23T23:57:29Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> If you aren’t seeing that, then Google is lying when it says it doesn’t manipulate search results for individual users.

What are you talking about? When has Google ever said that? [I’ve always heard, and experienced, the opposite](https://www.wsoaonline.com/does-your-internet-history-effect-google-search-results/):

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> Personalized search was officially introduced in 2005 to users with Google accounts. In 2009 Google launched the feature to everyone who used their search engine, including those not signed in with Google accounts.
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> According to Google, personalized search gives them the ability to customize search results based on a user’s previous 180 days of search history, which is linked to an anonymous cookie in your browser. This is how Google personalizes results when you’re not signed in under a Google account. When you’re signed in, Google stores your Google web history and search is personalized even more.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/568 "2019-01-24T00:02:23Z")

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> [@Elmore](#):
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> [Rasmussen Poll: Trump at 36% approval among African Americans](https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1013212002)
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> Even if we cut that in half because it’s Rasmussen that’s still about 7 million pro Trump black Americans. Let’s assume 1% of them have MAGA hats. That’s 70 thousand. Is that enough?

That’s a shocking poll, if true. I thought Trump’s support among blacks was more like 11-15%. Also, your link is for a poll published last August, and Trump’s overall approval has come down since then.

But even if the support is half of what the poll claims, it should be very worrying to Democrats. Perhaps smearing everyone not on their side as a racist isn’t working so well.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/569 "2019-01-24T00:06:17Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> What are you talking about? When has Google ever said that? [I’ve always heard, and experienced, the opposite](https://www.wsoaonline.com/does-your-internet-history-effect-google-search-results/):

My understanding was that Google’s algorithm was not personalized in that way for searches like this. I would expect them to tailor commercial results and ads, but not straight up factual searches.

But it’s a big problem if one person can do a search for maga hats and see only white people, while another person’s search shows mostly black people. It makes you wonder how much more of our reality is being skewed through the Google lens.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/570 "2019-01-24T00:08:03Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> That’s a shocking poll, if true. I thought Trump’s support among blacks was more like 11-15%. Also, your link is for a poll published last August, and Trump’s overall approval has come down since then.
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> But even if the support is half of what the poll claims, it should be very worrying to Democrats. Perhaps smearing everyone not on their side as a racist isn’t working so well.

Believe it or not Sam, most if not all Democrats don’t pick sides. We want all to win.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/571 "2019-01-24T00:12:12Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> My understanding was that Google’s algorithm was not personalized in that way for searches like this. I would expect them to tailor commercial results and ads, but not straight up factual searches.

You expect wrong: they tailor searches based on what they think you’re looking for. Whether it’s a big problem is of course debatable, but Google has worked that way for a decade.

It’s definitely a big problem for you to not realize how Google works, to think your search results reflect an unvarnished truth rather than an algorithm’s attempt at pleasing you.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/572 "2019-01-24T00:12:28Z")

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> [@Huey\_Freeman](#):
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> the consumption of semen-covered oreos?

Da hell are you talking about? Is that one of those urban legends, like rainbow parties or something?

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**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/573 "2019-01-24T00:15:06Z")

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> [@Huey\_Freeman](#):
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> You’re stupid as shit. Depending on when and where that clothing is worn, it might not be safe. If I have a shirt that says “Hitler Rules”, I might get my ass beat if I walk through a Jewish neighborhood Brooklyn. As for my racist screed, as I asked Dory’s friend, Little Nemo, I’d be delighted to hear how anti-white racism (lol) and discrimination has personally impacted your life. I’d really, really, really like to know how you’ve been impacted by anti-white racism (lol). I’ll put my cards down so you can see them: I reject political correctness (although, I was for it until it was clear white folks don’t want no part of it). If white folks don’t want to be political correct (or polite), why the fuck should I? Why should I call your retarded, inbred children “special needs” just to make you feel better? Why shouldn’t I bring up the school shootings, the incest, or the consumption of semen-covered oreos? Should I bite my tongue just to make you feel better (or safer)? Fuck that, shit. You get what you’re given. You hoes overwhelmingly elect the most vile and racist man in the a quarter of a century and have deliberately burned race relations for double that time. What you see is the [hate that hate produced.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hate_That_Hate_Produced) **.Get used to it.** Ya’ll hoes have incinerated race relations in this country and are shocked (shocked!!!) that people of color aren’t as kind and empathetic with ya’ll anymore. Fuck ya’ll. Nice trick in 2008, too. I have to admit, I actually was stupid enough to think that white folks had turned a new page in race relations. We see you for what you are and ya’ll won’t fool people of color again. Best believe that.

Oof. Tryhard douchebro here sure is mad.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/574 "2019-01-24T00:15:28Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Da hell are you talking about? Is that one of those urban legends, like rainbow parties or something?

It’s true, but it’s also the goat.se of news stories. Careful what you ask for here.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/575 "2019-01-24T00:16:14Z")

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> [@Elmore](#):
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> [Rasmussen Poll: Trump at 36% approval among African Americans](https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1013212002)
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> Even if we cut that in half because it’s Rasmussen that’s still about 7 million pro Trump black Americans. Let’s assume 1% of them have MAGA hats. That’s 70 thousand. Is that enough?

How does Trump get 36% approval among blacks when only 8% of black voters voted for him?  
Not trying to derail the thread, just perplexed.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/576 "2019-01-24T00:22:51Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> It’s true, but it’s also the goat.se of news stories. Careful what you ask for here.

I think I know what you’re talking about, (a certain shitty band took their name from it?) but I still suspect it’s an urban legend. Or at least, it’s only an isolated incident.  
Not the common phenomenon our friend **Huey** here is making it out to be. People who fall for that shit are the type who thing gang members hide under parked cars waiting to slash peoples’ ankles. (That was a popular one when I was in high school)

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/577 "2019-01-24T00:23:36Z")

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> [@](#):
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> If you aren’t seeing that, then Google is lying when it says it doesn’t manipulate search results for individual users.

…google isn’t “manipulating” the search results. The algorithm is. Search results are never the same between individuals for a whole host of [reasons](https://www.webpresencesolutions.net/7-reasons-google-search-results-vary-dramatically/). I’m probably never going to see exactly the same thing you see: especially as I live on the other side of the world. Don’t blame google because you didn’t know a very basic fact about how it works.

And FYI: with Duck Duck Go my search results were nearly identical to the google search with the addition of Dennis Rodman and [“Michael the Black Man”,](https://www.ajc.com/news/the-strange-story-behind-the-blacks-for-trump-guy-phoenix-rally/LhGQsF53Pj79kLHiIlGnzO/) the conspiracy theorist and former cultist.

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> It makes you wonder how much more of our reality is being skewed through the Google lens.

You’ve only just started to wonder this? Holy fucking shit. It isn’t just google. Its every fucking thing. Twitter. Facebook. Brexit. The last US elections. The balance finely tipped by algorithms that were manipulated just enough to have devastating results. Everything is skewed through a lens. We’ve all been compartmentalised into our own bubbles, being fed a steady steam of personally curated information that conforms to our own personal worldview.

This is what Trump’s [twitter](https://twitter.com/jeremycaplan/lists/who-trump-follows) feed looks like. It doesn’t look anything like my feed at all.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/578 "2019-01-24T00:41:33Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Anti-white racism affected me very recently. In fact, just a few minutes ago I was subjected to a racist rant by an anti-white racist.

Please share. I’m interested.

> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> And can we stop calling Nathan Phillips an ‘old man’? He’s about 15 years younger than the average age of the Democratic Leadership. He’s not even at retirement age. If he were running for President he’d be one of the younger people in the field. He’s the Wilford Brimley of ancient native elders.

Only on the SDMB could someone post this without someone retorting, “OK gramps”

I bet Reddit would have a whole train of it in a comment.

> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> If you aren’t seeing that, then Google is lying when it says it doesn’t manipulate search results for individual users. We should all be seeing the same thing. If you don’t, try going to duck duck go and search for ‘black people wearing Maga Hats’. I just did, and I get a screenful of nothing but…wait for it…black people wearing MAGA hats.

I googled ‘google tailoring results to individual users’

[https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1&q=google+tailoring+results+to+individula+users](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1&q=google+tailoring+results+to+individula+users)

In my screen, it says Google does indeed tailor its results to individual users. Then again, that’s what I expected it to say. YMMV.

btw, I didn’t get a screen full of black people wearing MAGA hats on duck duck go either.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/579 "2019-01-24T01:06:37Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I think I know what you’re talking about, (a certain shitty band took their name from it?) but I still suspect it’s an urban legend. Or at least, it’s only an isolated incident.

You asked–and unless the band is named [Mark Berndt](https://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2013/11/ex-teacher_mark_berndt_who_fed.html), I don’t think you know the story. Once you click, you can’t un-know it.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/580 "2019-01-24T01:23:00Z")

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LOL at the Google side bar. What a dipshit.

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