# Covington Catholic High (in case it hasn't been mentioned already) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090 "2019-01-20T02:23:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/621 "2019-01-24T21:32:49Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I do wonder if the “adults” were actually looking towards a physical confrontation between their students and the Black Israelites. Letting them get themselves worked up, singing school fight songs and chants, and not defusing the situation. That was what they were there for. > > They didn’t get on any of the students about harassing a woman they chose to target, and they did nothing o head off this probable physical violent confrontation. > > the BI’s were definitely shouting some pretty inflammatory stuff, and it would be “reasonable” for some of the kids to react with violence towards it. The BI’s wanted a physical confrontation as well. > > So, two groups, one looking for a fight, and the other not avoiding it. There were no adults to remove tensions. They say they asked if they could sing school songs and cheers, which are things that you sing at sports games to rile up your team and the crowd for a physical confrontation, they are not what you use to lower tension. The kids may not have understood that, but the chaperones most certainly should have. > > If they had been looking to lower tensions, they should have suggested “This little light of mine”, not the school fight song. > > So, yeah, it seems like the only adult who was looking to prevent violence was Philips. His act of getting in between the groups and distracting them probably headed off a physical confrontation between them. Post 140. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/622 "2019-01-24T21:46:57Z")
…geez. Look at that propaganda machine go. > **[Native American activist Nathan Phillips has a criminal record](https://nypost.com/2019/01/24/native-american-activist-nathan-phillips-has-a-criminal-record/?utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow)** > > Native American activist Nathan Phillips, whose confrontation with a Kentucky high school student went viral last week, has a criminal record, including assault and escape from prison, according to… They aren’t going to stop until they completely destroy this man. ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/623 "2019-01-24T22:00:31Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I see. So Phillips, who joined the Marine Corps Reserves a year after the last Marine left Vietnam, and who was a refrigeration tech stateside in the reserves for a while until numerous AWOLs and other displinary problems got him a general or disciplinary discharge, is completely in the right to call himself a ‘Vietnam vet’. That’s what you are going to stick to? If in fact that’s even a habit, I’ve been seeing qualifying language that suggests he wasn’t in combat or in-country. So he gets it and I can appreciate that. You have to be careful when denigrating people’s service, if you do that sort of thing. Personally I would avoid it. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/624 "2019-01-24T22:09:45Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > How is this a story, when there are so many actual important things happening in the world? > > It’s horrifying to see young people wearing MAGA hats, but that’s their right and is not newsworthy. Unless there is another part of the video I’m missing, the Native drummer was getting up in the grill of the high school kid, not vice versa. Since when is refusing to back down and standing your ground a crime? The fact you find a hat horrifying is horrifying. I know before I go to bed I look under my bed and in the closet for lurking hats. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/625 "2019-01-24T22:13:57Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > No, more like, “This person has proven himself willing to lie to bolster himself and his cause again and again, so why exactly are we taking his word for anything at all?” Because it fits a narrative that the left wants to exploit. The fake retractions and apologies you see news outlets and celebrities doing are going to be forgotten as soon as anything else exploitable gets videoed and goes viral complete with shade and clap backs. Social media buzzword bingo! ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/626 "2019-01-24T22:16:28Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > The fact you find a hat horrifying is horrifying. I know before I go to bed I look under my bed and in the closet for lurking hats. That is because you put them there, and you are just checking to make sure that they are still there. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/627 "2019-01-24T22:47:24Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …geez. Look at that propaganda machine go. > > [https://nypost.com/2019/01/24/native-american-activist-nathan-philllips-has-a-criminal-record/?utm\_source=NYPTwitter&utm\_medium=SocialFlow&utm\_campaign=SocialFlow](https://nypost.com/2019/01/24/native-american-activist-nathan-philllips-has-a-criminal-record/?utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow) > > They aren’t going to stop until they completely destroy this man. Phillips wanted to draw attention to himself, and to his cause. I think it’s safe to assume that Phillips would be aware of his own history. Once you turn the internet loose, there doesn’t seem to be any way of controlling where it goes. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/628 "2019-01-24T22:52:11Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > For me, the bigger question is about the presumed “adults” who set this minor tragedy in motion. That would be Kaya Taitano. She’s the one who posted the original video of the incident, ALONG with her comments, or biased interpretation, of what she wanted her viewers to read and see. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/629 "2019-01-24T23:01:50Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > How does Trump get 36% approval among blacks when only 8% of black voters voted for him? > Not trying to derail the thread, just perplexed. Seriously? Voted for him when? In 2016? That’s a long time ago in politics. When was this poll taken? Have you compared the two dates? It looks like Trump’s ratings have gone up. Perhaps if yellow dog Democrats, progressives, and liberals took the time to actually listen to what their opposition had to say, they wouldn’t become perplexed. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/630 "2019-01-24T23:10:36Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Phillips wanted to draw attention to himself, and to his cause. I think it’s safe to assume that Phillips would be aware of his own history. Once you turn the internet loose, there doesn’t seem to be any way of controlling where it goes. Ooh, underage drinking. He best be careful, with that kinda rap sheet, he could end up on the Supreme Court. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/631 "2019-01-24T23:11:01Z")
> [@](#): > > That would be Kaya Taitano. She’s the one who posted the original video of the incident, ALONG with her comments, or biased interpretation, of what she wanted her viewers to read and see. Not even close. I’m talking about the school who thought it was a great idea to send their students to a public demonstration in support of their own ideology. A Christian ideology, we are given to misunderstand. Been to any number of demonstrations myself, I know that sometimes they go smoothly and intelligently, sometimes they are infected by shit-disturbers. I would not approve of a school sending children to an anti-war demonstration, however much I may approve of the effort. My own son, either I would be there with him or he isn’t going. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/632 "2019-01-24T23:18:08Z")
If Phillips was trying to be a peacemaker, why did he actually physically get up against a boy who was just standing there quite still? It seemed like he was trying to provoke him, and the boy wouldn’t bite. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/633 "2019-01-24T23:24:04Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Phillips wanted to draw attention to himself, and to his cause. …did he? Did he really? All he did was bang his drum and answer a few interview questions afterwards. What exactly is his “cause?” > [@](#): > > I think it’s safe to assume that Phillips would be aware of his own history. Once you turn the internet loose, there doesn’t seem to be any way of controlling where it goes. The NY Post isn’t “the internet.” Its an news source that has an editorial staff that is capable of making editorial decisions and they chose to publish this story. It was completely within their control. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/634 "2019-01-24T23:24:55Z")
> [@](#): > > …It seemed like he was trying to provoke him, and the boy wouldn’t bite. An amazingly large amount of our monkey brains are connected reading facial expressions. I see a snotty young man sneering, you see an innocent lad terrorized by a face drumming. There are no facts. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/635 "2019-01-24T23:33:37Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > The NY Post isn’t “the internet.” Its an news source that has an editorial staff that is capable of making editorial decisions and they chose to publish this story. It was completely within their control. And they’re quoting that noted right wing rag _Washington Examiner_. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/636 "2019-01-24T23:40:56Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > An amazingly large amount of our monkey brains are connected reading facial expressions. I see a snotty young man sneering, you see an innocent lad terrorized by a face drumming. There are no facts. I said nothing of the sort. I said he “wouldn’t bite”, meaning he refused to be terrorized, or intimidated. I also said upthread that I find it horrifying to see teenagers wearing MAGA hats. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/637 "2019-01-24T23:46:04Z")
In case anyone is curious… > This is how things work around here. Poster child for a group of rowdy, misogynistic, abusive jerks clearly out for a fight? Softball questions, “do you feel sorry”, etc. Non-white guy who tried to break things up: “We have some questions about your war record”. If you can’t see the white supremacy in action you aren’t paying attention. This is how it _always_ goes. Rich white kids are extended a big fat olive branch and chance after chance after fucking chance. Literally anyone else who is potentially victimized by the rich white guy? Leave _no_ stone unturned. Find _whatever_ you can. Do they have a criminal record? I mean, sure, it’s completely fucking irrelevant, but let’s publish it! Do they have some positive attributes? Quick, try to smear it! Remember - Sandmann’s mom _hired a PR firm_ to get this shit fixed. Because of course she did. She’s rich. And white. She can afford it. Every. Fucking. Time. This happens _every fucking time_. I’m surprised they didn’t try to find Tamir Rice’s fucking criminal record, that’s how fucking blatant this is by now. If you can’t see it by now, you’re not paying attention. You want to know how this is still a story? Because this _keeps fucking happening_. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/638 "2019-01-24T23:55:55Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > An amazingly large amount of our monkey brains are connected reading facial expressions. I see a snotty young man sneering, you see an innocent lad terrorized by a face drumming. There are no facts. It is easy to tell who was at fault here, if you look closely. The problem is, is that you are paying attention to what they are doing, and you are not paying nearly enough attention to the color of their skin. Once you realize that that “snotty young man sneering” is the white person in this interaction, then you will come to realize that he is the one who is in the right, and it is the non-white man who is entirely at fault for everything that happened. Others in this thread have very easily jumped to that conclusion, why is it so hard for you? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/639 "2019-01-24T23:58:08Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …is it just me or has this story gotten massively stupider since the discussion started? I think it might be that the story itself is so much of a Rorschach inkblot that many posters are eagerly displaying their stupidity in describing what they see in it. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/640 "2019-01-24T23:59:07Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > In case anyone is curious… > > [https://twitter.com/dagotron/status/1088459779381444618](https://twitter.com/dagotron/status/1088459779381444618) > > This is how things work around here. Poster child for a group of rowdy, misogynistic, abusive jerks clearly out for a fight? Softball questions, “do you feel sorry”, etc. Non-white guy who tried to break things up: “We have some questions about your war record”. > > If you can’t see the white supremacy in action you aren’t paying attention. This is how it _always_ goes. Rich white kids are extended a big fat olive branch and chance after chance after fucking chance. Literally anyone else who is potentially victimized by the rich white guy? Leave _no_ stone unturned. Find _whatever_ you can. Do they have a criminal record? I mean, sure, it’s completely fucking irrelevant, but let’s publish it! Do they have some positive attributes? Quick, try to smear it! Remember - Sandmann’s mom _hired a PR firm_ to get this shit fixed. Because of course she did. She’s rich. And white. She can afford it. > > Every. Fucking. Time. This happens _every fucking time_. I’m surprised they didn’t try to find Tamir Rice’s fucking criminal record, that’s how fucking blatant this is by now. > > If you can’t see it by now, you’re not paying attention. You want to know how this is still a story? Because this _keeps fucking happening_. When doxxing, death threats, and victim blaming goes wrong still blame the victim and whine about the so-called patriarchy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090.md?page=33)