# Covington Catholic High (in case it hasn't been mentioned already) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090 "2019-01-20T02:23:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/821 "2019-01-27T22:44:32Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > how many pages will a thread attacking a teen because of non-approved hat and non group think run? How many pages will you attack a thread because people are saying things in it that you don’t think they should be allowed to say? Do we need to get your approval before we start threads from now on? Exactly how much free speech are you looking to outlaw, in your quest to have speech without consequence? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/822 "2019-01-27T23:13:12Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > . If, for example, you came after me, I would ether (or in Guin’s case, shether) you, too. Go on, try me. Notwithstanding this, out of respect for the thread and because my presence has become as distraction, this will be my last post in this thread; but I swear to God, if you don’t want your resident 9th graders and your white supremacists (whom you love to protect) to get dogwalked, instruct them to keep my name (and that of my loved one’s) out their motherfucking mouths. Let them know that if they don’t start none, there won’t be none. > > Thanks I strongly suspect that you have an autistic child that you hate because you think your wife got pregnant by her white boss. But you can’t be sure because your grandmother was white, so maybe that’s where your child’s lighter skin comes from? So now, rather than admit how much you hate your possibly illegitimate child, you just hate white people and blame autism on them. Ths theory may be wrong but it seems to cover all the facts. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/823 "2019-01-27T23:38:32Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > On topic, how many pages will a thread attacking a teen because of non-approved hat and non group think run? I already did not agree with the OP concentrating on an specific kid, I did agree though with what even the Catholics in power in Kentucky are telling us. [https://www.kentucky.com/opinion/op-ed/article224984305.html](https://www.kentucky.com/opinion/op-ed/article224984305.html) > [@](#): > > Wearing a Trump hat? That’s not exactly pro-life, says Catholic Bishop John Stowe > [@](#): > > A perennial complaint from participants in the annual March for Life in Washington, D.C., is that the secular news media largely ignore this massive protest of the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision. In light of the viral news story of last weekend, of a group of Catholic high school students from Kentucky in a confrontation with a Native American elder after this year’s march, that claim no longer holds. > [@](#): > > As the leader of the Catholic Church in the 50 counties of Central and Eastern Kentucky, I join the Diocese of Covington and other Catholic leaders in apologizing in the wake of this incident. > > Without engaging the discussion about the context of the viral video or placing the blame entirely on these adolescents, it astonishes me that any students participating in a pro-life activity on behalf of their school and their Catholic faith could be wearing apparel sporting the slogans of a president who denigrates the lives of immigrants, refugees and people from countries that he describes with indecent words and haphazardly endangers with life-threatening policies. > [@](#): > > These experiences can be found in the church’s dialogue with other religious traditions and the fact that our own congregations span across categories of race, nationality and immigration status. The church’s service to migrants and refugees can also help form these values in the next generation. > > The pro-life movement claims that it wants more than the policy change of making abortion illegal, but aims to make it unthinkable. That would require deep changes in society and policies that would support those who find it difficult to afford children. The association of our young people with racist acts and a politics of hate must also become unthinkable. > > The Rev. John Stowe is bishop of the Diocese of Lexington. So, again, I do think that the ones that allowed or recommended the students to wear the paraphernalia of the MAGAT in chief still need to be dealt with. And for the kids to learn the proper lessons, IMHO it does not require expulsion or punishment. Unless it is shown that it was the students who decided that embracing the bigoted message and insulting behavior of a fake pro-lifer was a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/824 "2019-01-28T00:31:54Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > How many pages will you attack a thread because people are saying things in it that you don’t think they should be allowed to say? > > Do we need to get your approval before we start threads from now on? > > Exactly how much free speech are you looking to outlaw, in your quest to have speech without consequence? Death threats and doxxing a teenager aren’t my ideas of free speech. It’s telling that that is what the left considers as acceptable “consequences.” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/825 "2019-01-28T00:41:46Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Death threats and doxxing a teenager aren’t my ideas of free speech. It’s telling that that is what the left considers as acceptable “consequences.” Again, nut-picking is not a convincing argument, I already have seen attempts at character assassinations coming from the right regarding Mr. Phillips and past history has shown that mostly some guys from the right do then fall to do likewise to people like Mr. Phillips (and lately most of the ones[going beyond threats](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/26/us/cesar-sayoc-bombing-suspect-arrested.html)are coming from the right). Point being that indeed doing that to a teenager or to a Native American is not proper. Now, having said that, that does not exculpate the trolling behavior and the lessons that should be learned. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/826 "2019-01-28T00:45:23Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > That’s the point of that account, I think. To claim to be a member of a particular demographic group, and smear the reputations of all in that group by being unremittingly nasty, unfair, and wrong (as with the writer’s apparently deliberate mis-characterization of the research on depression, as just demonstrated by PR in this thread). > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21427216#post21427216](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21427216#post21427216) > > The writer is doing a pretty good job of it, too. Should put in for a bonus, if working for wages. But of course the writer might be doing this out of ideological fervor, and not for pay at all. Dude, I highly, highly doubt Huey is some kind of government agent sent to try and cause racial tensioin. He’s just some jagoff troll – the internet’s full of them. Remember, when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/827 "2019-01-28T04:19:51Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > Let me tell you something. I was minding my own fucking business in this thread before [Guin came after me first](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21452600&postcount=739). Poor Huey. Like a little chihuahua’s incessant yapping for attention - it can be novel at first but after a while it gets boring. You keep holding onto your victimhood as if it is the only thing of value you have to offer, otherwise you may be completely worthless. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/828 "2019-01-28T04:48:57Z")
> [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > Damn, girl. At least I have a wife. At least I have a significant other. You, on the other hand, will remain alone and, eventually, die alone. You see, girlfriend, I’m not doped up on antidepressants nor do I have I spent over 6,900 hours on a fucking message board engaging in depressive behavior masquerading as an online “hobby”. Tell me, Guinastasia. How long have you been on anti-depressants? Who exactly are you behind the drug? Do you even know who you are behind the mask of SSRIs? You don’t even know who you are. You’ll never find a man because you’re emotionally needy, socially awkward, and bereft of intelligence beyond 9th grade. Because I kind of respect you as the one the senior cult-members here, let me give you a pro-tip. If you want a man, get yourself off the antidepressants, and see a psychologist to overcome your issues. Antidepressants and relationships don’t mix. See[this](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25012424) and [this](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4158381/). Good luck, because you’re going to need it your baggage. Your clock is running out. Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock. Dude. I am only intermittenly on the same wavelength as _Guinastasia_. I’ve been fucking pitted by _Guinastasia_ and served up a helping of snark from time to time in other unmentionable environments. She’s annoying, caustic, and ascerbic. But if you were of the morphological sexual preference that appeals to me and she were completely not, I’d 100 times rather spend time with her than have to endure you. She has the kind of dignity and cleverness and aplomb you can only in your wildest dreams pretend to, she bothers to think and consider on a level you don’t seem to so much as aspire to, and she’s human and at least cordially kind even to people she’s in fervent disagreement with. I oughta know. You’re seriously fucked up and no one prefers you. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/829 "2019-01-28T05:13:17Z")
Why is anyone talking to this clown? He as much of a write-off as doorhinge is and Clothahump was. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/830 "2019-01-28T05:17:55Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Death threats and doxxing a teenager aren’t my ideas of free speech. It’s telling that that is what the left considers as acceptable “consequences.” Until you have enough of a backbone to speak up when “your side” does that exact same thing (and also somewhat frequently murders people), perhaps you should go fuck yourself? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/831 "2019-01-28T06:01:47Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Until you have enough of a backbone to speak up when “your side” does that exact same thing (and also somewhat frequently murders people), perhaps you should go fuck yourself? Is this an example of a bothsidesdoit fallacy? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/832 "2019-01-28T06:24:48Z")
Once again, to put this thread back on track, I’d still like to know where the fuck the adults were, and why they didn’t step in before it got out of hand. > [@AHunter3](#): > > Dude. > > I am only intermittenly on the same wavelength as _Guinastasia_. I’ve been fucking pitted by _Guinastasia_ and served up a helping of snark from time to time in other unmentionable environments. She’s annoying, caustic, and ascerbic. But if you were of the morphological sexual preference that appeals to me and she were completely not, I’d 100 times rather spend time with her than have to endure you. She has the kind of dignity and cleverness and aplomb you can only in your wildest dreams pretend to, she bothers to think and consider on a level you don’t seem to so much as aspire to, and she’s human and at least cordially kind even to people she’s in fervent disagreement with. I oughta know. > > You’re seriously fucked up and no one prefers you. Well thank you. FWIW, while we’ve had plenty of disagreements, you’re a pretty cool guy. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/833 "2019-01-28T07:02:14Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Is this an example of a bothsidesdoit fallacy? I’m not sure. Is that the phrase that describes how you lack the moral character to speak up when someone you share political beliefs with does something bad? Like, remember when you wouldn’t speak out against a pedophile because he was a registered Republican? No offense, but if you lack the moral character to speak out against pedophilia just because it’s a Republican molesting the little girls, then you should probably go fuck yourself. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/834 "2019-01-28T07:14:15Z")
Roy Moore seems like a truly terrible person (I thought so long before I heard any of the sexual allegations), but I am unaware of any accusations involving prepubescent children, therefore “pedophile” is a misnomer. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/835 "2019-01-28T07:16:42Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Roy Moore seems like a truly terrible person (I thought so long before I heard any of the sexual allegations), but I am unaware of any accusations involving prepubescent children, therefore “pedophile” is a misnomer. Well, that certainly excuses **Octopus** ’s behavior. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/836 "2019-01-28T10:41:57Z")
Wasn’t saying it did. I just wrinkle my nose every time I see that term loosely bandied about to describe sexual acts with teenagers. It may have been rape, sexual assault, or statutory rape, but that’s not pedophilia. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/837 "2019-01-28T14:44:12Z")
Wow, you people are fucking nuts. Just wholeheartedly, completely fucking insane. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/838 "2019-01-28T20:57:34Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Wasn’t saying it did. I just wrinkle my nose every time I see that term loosely bandied about to describe sexual acts with teenagers. It may have been rape, sexual assault, or statutory rape, but that’s not pedophilia. I know you are technically correct and people wrongly call anyone who has sex with a minor a “pedophile” all the time but it always make people suspicious when people are insistent on correcting the error. That’s why I’ve stopped doing it myself. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/839 "2019-01-28T21:50:54Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Is this what the SDMB has become? And don’t give me some shit that it’s always been this way. The quality of argument has deteriorated substantially in the last couple of years, coincidentally since the advent of Donald and his shitsuckers who infest this board. I recently tried to start a conversation with a mod about this type of thing and was rebuffed. The message seemed clear to me: we don’t care what you think or want. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090/840 "2019-01-28T21:56:51Z")
Are there really very many Trump supporters here? That’s not my impression, but I don’t read most threads. > [@dorvann](#): > > I know you are technically correct and people wrongly call anyone who has sex with a minor a “pedophile” all the time but it always make people suspicious when people are insistent on correcting the error. That’s why I’ve stopped doing it myself. Suspicious of what, exactly? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/covington-catholic-high-in-case-it-hasnt-been-mentioned-already/828090.md?page=43)