# cowards of the sdmb **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 15, 2001, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowards-of-the-sdmb/81795 "2001-09-15T09:16:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowards-of-the-sdmb/81795/41 "2001-09-16T16:01:07Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Mersavets \* \*\* > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rysdad \* > EG, the enemy can’t simply be defined as “all Arabs” or “all Muslims” or “all Afghanis.” The enemy is _all terrorists_ and their supporters. > > Let your wrath be directed toward them, and let your sympathies be directed toward all of the innocents they caused, and will cause, to die. > > And let the full fury of the United States be visited upon those guilty of this tragedy. \*\* \*\* > [@](#): > > Mersavets: “This will never work. You are casting the net too wide.”\*\* Main Entry: ter·ror·ism Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m Function: noun Date: 1795 : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion - ter·ror·ist /-&r-ist/ adjective or noun - ter·ror·is·tic /"ter-&r-'is-tik/ adjective It’s a wide definition, and it works for me. \*\* > [@](#): > > Just look after the American kids instead.\*\* How can you say this after seeing the words of support from other countries? That’s damned ungrateful, not to mention heartless, seeing as they’ve lost hundreds of people as well, and they’re willing to fight alongside us to help erase the vermin who would contemplate such atrocities. \*\* > [@](#): > > Give them access to guns, no info on safe sex or drugs and they’ll be fine as long as you don’t let the Arabs near them. And as for all those terorists that haven’t fucked with America yet… well they _haven’t_ fucked with America. Yet. Just go after all the rag-heads. There might be a few innocent ones amongst them but you just know that they’d get around to killing American people sooner or later. Except Kuwaitis and Saudis. They’re OK. But not bin Laden. Anymore. a \*\* There can be no well-reasoned, intelligent response to this for the same reason that one shouldn’t attempt to teach a pig to whistle: It wastes your time and annoys the pig. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowards-of-the-sdmb/81795/42 "2001-09-16T19:37:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bluesman in [another thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/newreply.php?action=newreply&postid=1616262) \* > **I was stationed in Germany from '95-'99, and I made a great many close friends with the Bavarians. (followed with story that brought tears to my eyes)** THIS is why we cannot “carpet-bomb Afghanistan” like so many people are demanding. My father was shot down during a raid on Munich. Half a century later the children and grandchildren of the people he was, well, trying to kill are our dear friends! In the same way we cannot lose hope for the redemption of any of our enemies, even Osama bin Laden. To demand the murder of innocents “and let God sort them out” is vile and monstrous. If the person saying it calls himself a Christian then he is wrong. There is nothing Christian about that. There is nothing Christian about calling “cowards” people who believe that staying calm and finding out who is responsible and punishing them and, to the extent possible, them alone. By doing so you have revealed yourself to be a hatefilled and vile person and no better than bin Laden. A popular song this week has been “Amazing Grace.” It is by and about a person who realizes that the path he has been following is wrong. You can find that strength, too. I hope you can find your humanity soon. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowards-of-the-sdmb/81795/43 "2001-09-16T20:20:29Z")
This is one of the sickest most vitriolic posts I have read thus far. It’s not THAT you react that makes you no better than they are, it’s how you react. Erek ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowards-of-the-sdmb/81795/44 "2001-09-16T20:34:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by EvilGhandi \* > \*\*Fuck you > > Bin laden is not only the most likely canidate he is admittedly guilty of multiple murders of US nationals. > > The turkish government has taken the stance. Fuck you, you cant get him and we dare you to try. \*\* Fuck you and your ignorance. Turkey is on our side asshole. We have troops there already you stupid fuckwhit. Please stop wasting good oxygen at this point. Or at least work on you goddamn reading comprehension and stop spewing worthless hate. This country doesn’t need you. This country needs people that care about it’s interests, so kindly fuck off and let real men who can still be logical through their anger handle this. Erek ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowards-of-the-sdmb/81795/45 "2001-09-16T20:46:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RickJay \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Spider Woman \* > > \*\* > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > \*Originally posted by EvilGhandi \* > > > You think if we keep ignoring these fuckers they wont eventualy deploy nuclear weapons? \*\* > > > > That is something that had crossed my mind. Pakistan, if I remember correctly, did a demonstration a couple of years back to show that they have nuclear weapons. It is also possible that bin Laden has the financial resources to have made some.\*\* > > It’s theoretically possible that a multimillionaire could buy or steal numclear weapons, but he can’t make them in his current position. A nuclear weapon is not something you buy the parts for at Radio Shack and whomp up in your garage workshop. \*\* Actually, aside from the radioactive components, it is. My father has a book with instructions on how to make one. He worked on them in the army. Erek ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowards-of-the-sdmb/81795/46 "2001-09-16T20:57:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rysdad \* > Main Entry: ter·ror·ism > Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m > Function: noun > Date: 1795 > : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion > > - ter·ror·ist /-&r-ist/ adjective or noun > - ter·ror·is·tic /"ter-&r-'is-tik/ adjective > > It’s a wide definition, and it works for me. > \*\* The only thing about this that astounds me is that you don’t realize that what EvilGhandi is proposing is the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion to keep terrorists from being terrorists any longer. Erek ---
**Author:** ![stupidted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stupidted](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stupidted)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowards-of-the-sdmb/81795/47 "2001-09-17T00:41:04Z")
So Mr. EvilGhandi you (and others) think we can just go over there drop bombs for a few years and wipe out terrorism and anhilate evil as our great leader G.W. suggests? And you’re calling who naive?? Did an anvil fall on your head last week? We will never be able to stop terrorism and definitely not evil, which is a shame 'cause I’m sure a lot of people would like to see EvilGhandi shut the fuck up. Think logically for just one second, how long has the middle east been engaged in war?? I’m no historian, but I’m willing to bet that its been going on since people could talk and argue about god. So let me get this straight, we’re gonna go to the middle east and end their little holy war?? Oh I get it, its because we’re americans and kick ass, right?? Sure we bomb the hell out of them and knock 'em on their backs for a bit, but I hate to tell you this they’re not going to give up, ever. I know I’m not dedicated to anything enough to plan a few years of my life so I can commit suicide and kill a bunch of people. As soon as we start to forget about this and let security lax a bit its going to happen again. We’re an easy target. Buh-bye. Ted A. ---
**Author:** ![Spider\_Woman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Spider\_Woman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spider_Woman)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowards-of-the-sdmb/81795/48 "2001-09-17T00:54:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by LouisB \* > \*\*Read this. > > [http://quanta-gaia.org/MarkTwain/warPrayer.html](http://quanta-gaia.org/MarkTwain/warPrayer.html) > > Think about it. \*\* One day last year I was doing a search on the Internet, looking for this particular piece and others by Twain, and I found the SDMB and Cecil. Thank you for providing that link, **LouisB**. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowards-of-the-sdmb/81795/49 "2001-09-17T01:11:41Z")
**Spider Woman,** it was my pleasure. I can’t think of a single piece of writing that so changed my attitude towards war. Dalton Trumbo’s _Johnny Got His Gun_ runs a close second. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowards-of-the-sdmb/81795/50 "2001-09-17T01:15:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by LouisB \* > \*\ ***Spider Woman,** it was my pleasure. > > I can’t think of a single piece of writing that so changed my attitude towards war. Dalton Trumbo’s _Johnny Got His Gun_ runs a close second. \*\* That book is the only book I never read for class, had to do a report on and got a good grade for admitting that I couldn’t finish it. Erek [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowards-of-the-sdmb/81795.md?page=2)