# Cowboys & Aliens

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 21, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885 "2011-07-21T17:57:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Arrendajo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Arrendajo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrendajo)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/41 "2011-07-24T04:51:22Z")

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> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#):
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> It needs dinosaurs.

And lesbians!

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/42 "2011-07-24T04:53:29Z")

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That’s the sequel.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/43 "2011-07-24T05:19:10Z")

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I want to see a graphic novel called _Dinosaurs and Lesbians_. It doesn’t even need words at all. Really.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/44 "2011-07-24T05:41:34Z")

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Aaaaan, the first Twitter review is in (like it matters, but I was curious):

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> joblocom [JoBlo.com](http://JoBlo.com)  
> “Cowboys & Aliens” is the summer movie you’ve been waiting for.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/45 "2011-07-24T05:55:49Z")

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A few more:

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> akstanwyck Anne Thompson  
> #sdcc any cinephile or western lover should see cowboys + aliens; craig and ford carry it. CG aliens are less interesting.

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> ColeAbaius Cole Abaius  
> I enjoyed Cowboys & Aliens. A lot of fun, great Western elements, Craig, Ford, et al are fantastic. Nothing earth-shattering, but good-great

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> ColeAbaius Cole Abaius · Follow  
> I haven’t seen Cap yet…but C&A is definitely better than good. There’s a lot to love in it.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/46 "2011-07-24T06:00:40Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Aaaaan, the first Twitter review is in (like it matters, but I was curious):

Fuckin’ A.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/47 "2011-07-24T06:06:56Z")

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It looks awesome. I plan to see it as soon as I can see it for free.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/48 "2011-07-24T06:19:18Z")

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Btw, I kinda feel the need to publicly state that I do not follow JoBlo on Twitter. I got those reviews from someone else’s feed.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/49 "2011-07-24T09:31:19Z")

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> [@Big\_Norse](#):
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> Wait, someone else has a crush on Clancy Brown? Go Rawhide!

Count me in too. A great big man crush. Highlander, Buckaroo Bonzai, Cast a Deadly Spell, Shawshank Redemption, Batman the Animated Series, Mr. Krabs on Spongebob, Star Wars Clone Wars, make that pretty much every animated series EVER MADE…

The man is a GOD.  
Add in Harrison Ford and Sam Rockwell and I want to see this movie, even if it is bad.

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**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/50 "2011-07-24T15:34:00Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Count me in too. A great big man crush. Highlander, Buckaroo Bonzai, Cast a Deadly Spell, Shawshank Redemption, Batman the Animated Series, Mr. Krabs on Spongebob, Star Wars Clone Wars, make that pretty much every animated series EVER MADE…
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> The man is a GOD.

Amen, brother! And oh man, I can only assume by its omission from your list that you haven’t seen him in **Carnivale** yet…get thee to a rental place tout de suite! It’s his greatest role to date – he is _phenomenal_. Or here, watch [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M93KLbwLYY) for just a tiny taste of the force of nature that is Brother Justin.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/51 "2011-07-27T07:00:18Z")

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The previews look good.

How did the Comic-Con screening go?

I plan to go in a couple weekends. Let the crowds die down first.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/52 "2011-07-27T20:34:38Z")

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review this looks really good.

> **[Harrison Ford Gives One of His Best Performances in 'Cowboys & Aliens'](https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/harrison-ford-gives-one-of-his-best-performances-in-cowboys-aliens)**
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> The Wild West just got a little more wild… and creepy. 

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> But the highlight of the film is Harrison Ford, who gives one of his best performances as the gloomy and cantankerous cowboy trying to save his son.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/53 "2011-07-29T08:12:45Z")

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Family saw it at midnight - my mom and I knew we had to see it from the first trailers.

Fun movie, especially if you don’t think too much. Harrison Ford is very good, and Craig is an excellent ‘Man with No Name’. I am really not sure how the man has that much distilled sex appeal and badassery.

On Adam Beach:

The title doesn’t say so, but the movie also has Indians too! I like him as an actor - he did a good job as Jim Chee, and I thought he did a great job in Flags of Our Fathers. But is he the only Native American actor with a Screen Actor’s Guild card?

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**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/54 "2011-07-29T12:06:30Z")

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Adam Beach is also Canadian from the Salteaux tribe. I was going to offer up Graham Greene as a Native actor from the US, but checking his wiki, it turns out he’s Canadian too! I can’t think of any relatively well-known Native actors from US who play Native Americans.  
Cowboys & Aliens only got 2.5 stars in the Philadelphia Inquirer, but I’m still going to try to see it this weekend. And probably a matinee, by myself, since everyone I’ve asked to go with me has laughed in my face at the suggestion. 😛

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**Author:** ![ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ryan)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/55 "2011-07-29T14:46:10Z")

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I’ll be going to see this next week with a couple buddies.

> [@gallows\_fodder](#):
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> I can’t think of any relatively well-known Native actors from US who play Native Americans.

Wes Studi is from Oklahoma.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/56 "2011-07-29T16:37:37Z")

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Good point. I learned something today.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/57 "2011-07-30T04:37:29Z")

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I saw it, liked it. It requires a certain suspension of disbelief, but seriously, if you are going to see a movie called “Cowboys and Aliens” you have no right to complain that “interstellar aliens would never fall for that.” YOU fell for it!

Anyway, fun movie, well acted, but prolly not for the kiddies, kinda scary and gory in many respects. Though it does teach some important lessons, like “being a man is about stabbing.” There I go, snarking, it’s habit. Actually, the gritty Western feel works very nicely with the theme of humans as primitives facing off against advanced aliens.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/58 "2011-07-30T16:26:04Z")

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We saw it yesterday and thought it was OK - not great, but fun if you know it is all kind of silly.

One nitpick/complaint about cheap-ass Executive Producer Steven Spielberg:

I know you are the Executive Producer of both Cowboys and Aliens, as well as Falling Skies currently airing on TNT, but did you have to re-cycle practically the exact same alien/skitter for both shows?! You couldn’t come up with something different? Do all aliens resemble gigantic aborted cockroach fetuses?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/59 "2011-07-30T16:26:51Z")

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Really, the premise is no more absurd than any other alien invasion movie. We like to think we could fight off an invasion with our current technology, but compared to any technology that could cross between stars, us and the Old West are about equally primitive.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cowboys-aliens/589885/60 "2011-07-30T17:16:34Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Really, the premise is no more absurd than any other alien invasion movie. We like to think we could fight off an invasion with our current technology, but compared to any technology that could cross between stars, us and the Old West are about equally primitive.

Wells’ _War of the Worlds_ made this point and everyone has copied it since.

The Smurfs movie beat C&A at the box office on Friday. Did anybody predict a win for the Smurfs?

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