# Coyness about amount of money in films/TV

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**Created:** [March 13, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coyness-about-amount-of-money-in-films-tv/441193 "2008-03-13T00:37:13Z")\
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[QUOTE=TWDuke]  
Amounts are often mentioned in films and TV.

From **Seinfeld** seasons 1-3:  
Jerry offers Elaine $50 to steal an egg roll.  
Jerry pays a hooker $50.  
Jerry attempts to sell Elaine his couch for $150.  
Jerry gives Elaine $182 as a gift.  
A woman steals George’s $350 suit.  
The cable guys ask Jerry for $400.  
George buys a $600 sweater marked down to $85.  
Jerry writes a check for $875 to cover the damage to Becky’s car.  
George guesses that Jerry paid $1,000 for a jacket.  
Jerry hides $1,500 in his laundry.  
Jerry’s rental car has $2,866 of damage.  
Jerry’s investment “fluctuates” by $4,000.  
Jerry loans Elaine $5,000 to get an apartment that rents for $400 a month.  
A painting of Kramer sells for $5,000.  
Elaine says her brother-in-law almost lost $15,000 by saying something he shouldn’t have.  
Kramer estimates a library fine at $50,000 - $100,000.  
Kramer says adult diapers are a $600 million a year industry.  
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Funny, I can’t recall the price quoted, but the exact amount that the president of NBC (Bob Balaban) was willing to pay both Jerry & George for their pilot was mentioned. I think it was around $12,000 for both of them. George of course ‘passes’, because Ted Danson makes $80,000 per episode on “Cheers.” (George can’t stand that Ted Danson will be getting paid so much more than them.)

Then on the last episode of the series, the pilot is supposedly being picked up by a new network - and curiously, no figure gets mentioned.

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That CNN page is pretty flawed. CSI Grissom is not just a forensic scientist, but a manager as well.

And Sydney Bristow’s outfits and wigs wre probably supplied by the CIA

Brian

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_Psycho_ begins with the theft of $40,000\* from a customer of a business by a company employee.

\*In 1960 dollars; that equates to more than $280,000 now, according to [this](http://www.westegg.com/inflation/) inflation calculator.

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[QUOTE=N9IWP]  
That CNN page is pretty flawed. CSI Grissom is not just a forensic scientist, but a manager as well.

And Sydney Bristow’s outfits and wigs wre probably supplied by the CIA  
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And the ridiculous house in the OC is paid for by the wife, who is highly paid by her father’s lucrative development business.

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coyness-about-amount-of-money-in-films-tv/441193/45 "2008-03-14T21:13:36Z")

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I’ve always been annoyed by the writing-it-on-paper thing as well. Who does that in real life?

There was an episode in the first season of _All in the Family_ in which Archie considers selling his row house in Queens to a realty that’s buying them but then decides not to when it turns out the realtor is black and also a [blockbuster](http://www.tv.com/all-in-the-family/the-blockbuster/episode/23221/summary.html). In order to get rid of the realtor Archie intentionally gives the man a price he knows is ridiculously inflated for his house: “$35,000!” to which the blockbuster says “Sold!”

Even though that was only 35 years ago, the notion that you could then buy a house in Queens (certainly not luxurious but also not a slum) for $35,000 (or actually probably more like $25,000, since Archie’s price was exaggerated) is incredible. Personally I don’t think it makes it feel dated- ANY show is going to be dated a generation later, it’s unavoidable.

You also learn in _AitF_ that Archie earned $5.50 per hour as a loading dock foreman.

Other shows that gave real prices:

Fred Sanford was offered $11,000 for his house and junkyard in Watts in one episode (while his place is in or near the slums I’m guessing anything at all liveable would sell for many times that today).

On _I Love Lucy_ the Ricardos were once indignant that the Mertzes raised the rent on their Manhattan brownstone apartment to $120.

On an episode of _The Cosby Show_ the Huxtables decided to teach Theo a life lesson by giving him imaginary money and having him rent an apartment (they’d emptied his room and took on different characters, for NYC obstetricians and law firm partners have plenty of time to do that) and charged him $600 for a Manhattan efficiency. That was only about 20 years ago but I’m guessing you’d do really well to find an efficiency in Brooklyn or even Jersey for $600 now.

The roommates on _Three’s Company_ paid $300 per month for a 2 BR Santa Monica apartment across the street from the beach (again, not luxurious but also not the slums).

To me though, these don’t date the shows, they just place it.

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There’s a great moment in the film [Annie Hall](http://imdb.com/title/tt0075686/) wherein Annie (Diane Keaton) is trying to talk Alvy (Woody Allen) into letting her move in with him, since she is already sleeping there most nights out of the week. Alvy protests and questioins why she would want to give up such a great apartment? Why not hold onto it?

**Annie** : Alvy, that apartment costs me _four hundred dollars_ a month.

**Alvy** (gasping in surprise): What for that fleabag hole in the wall???\*  
An apartment in Manhattan (and from what we see of it in the film, it’s on the large size for a Manhattan apt.) going for $400 a month, and that’s considered _a lot of money_ — boy that really dates the flick!  
\*paraphrasing

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[QUOTE=The New and Improved Superman]  
**Alvy** (gasping in surprise): What for that fleabag hole in the wall???\*  
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It had bad plumbing! And bugs!

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coyness-about-amount-of-money-in-films-tv/441193/48 "2008-03-15T19:02:33Z")

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[QUOTE=kunilou]  
Let’s not forget the old TV series “The Millionaire” in which an anonymous benefactor gave individuals a vast sum of… you guessed it.  
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That would be J. Beresford Tipton, IIRC. In the opener every week, we would see his hand signing the cheque, and the back of his chair as he passes it to the guy who would deliver it.

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I’m glad someone else mentioned this as it bugs the hell out of me, but as others say I guess it’s mainly due to inflation proofing and not wanting to research actual costs of some things. Also it’s true that we seem to be particularly bad at doing that in the UK, amounts of money are virtually never discussed (to the point that when they are it actually has quite an effect).

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Oh, anyone who has seen Once Upon a Time In Mexico no doubt remembers Agent Sands’ line about “It wasn’t easy to find a suitcase… small enough… for ten thousand dollars.” before handing over a lunch box full of money.

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[QUOTE=Illuminatiprimus]  
Also it’s true that we seem to be particularly bad at doing that in the UK, amounts of money are virtually never discussed (to the point that when they are it actually has quite an effect).  
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Probably because it takes too long to figure out how many farthings are in one bob plus a tuppence.

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[QUOTE=TWDuke]  
Probably because it takes too long to figure out how many farthings are in one bob plus a tuppence.  
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Now that you mention it, the characters themselves probably have no clue how much money is in the briefcase. I bet they’re writing “LOOK! WE’RE ON THE TELLY!”

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[QUOTE=Hostile Dialect]  
The inability to get in touch with someone quickly by phone dates movies a lot quicker than amounts of money, especially since it’s a key part of the plot in so many older movies.  
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Like _Play It Again, Sam,_ where Tony Roberts’s character is always calling in to his office or wherever to report where he is: “This is Mr. Christie. I’m no longer at 555-1234. For the next two hours I’ll be at 555-5678.”

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[QUOTE=Little Nemo]  
I’m guessing when they remade the series _The Bionic Woman_ this year, nobody was claiming the cost was still six million dollars.  
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Actually, the cost for the original bionic woman was never disclosed, nor was it ever established whether Jaime’s reconstruction cost more or less than Steve Austin’s. There was one episode where Jaime declared that she must have cost more because of inflation and Oscar rejoined that her parts were smaller.

There was a bionic man before Steve, originally named Barney Miller but changed to Barney Hiller after the cop sitcom became popular, who had four bionic limbs. He was called the 7 million dollar man, from which we can deduce that a bionic arm for a man cost one million dollars.

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[QUOTE=TWDuke]  
Probably because it takes too long to figure out how many farthings are in one bob plus a tuppence.  
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Actually the just about only time I notice money mentioned in British shows or films are historical dramas.

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