# Cracked lets everyone (almost) you know go. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 5, 2017, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611 "2017-12-05T06:27:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/81 "2018-10-01T00:57:31Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Weird that they aren’t calling him David Wong, his real name. It’s not like it’s a secret. No, John Cheese is a pseudonym used by Mack Leighty. David Wong is a pseudonym used by Jason Pargin. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/82 "2018-10-01T01:02:56Z")
My bad. I googled his real name, as I knew it was out there, but didn’t read carefully enough once I recognized the name. ---
**Author:** ![Flander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/83 "2018-10-01T01:23:37Z")
Well shit. This explains a lot. I’ll miss After Hours. I kept wondering why the good content wasn’t coming out. RIP. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/84 "2018-10-01T07:42:09Z")
I don’t think the “John Cheese #metoo” thing is related to the “Everyone Funny Is Let Go” thing. Good content wasn’t coming out because of the latter, not the former. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/85 "2018-10-01T10:00:39Z")
I never liked his columns anyway. Too much of a scold. Not surprised frankly. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/86 "2018-10-01T10:06:31Z")
Here is the detailed chronology of [Macks misbehaviour.](https://medium.com/@taliajane/how-i-became-my-own-ronan-farrow-87e847632d50) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/87 "2018-10-01T10:11:57Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > I never liked his columns anyway. Too much of a scold. > Not surprised frankly. You’re joking, right? Did you know him personally? Or are you saying that you can tell from essays about being poor in America that someone is sexually harassing co-workers? That’s ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/88 "2018-10-01T10:19:19Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > You’re joking, right? Did you know him personally? > > Or are you saying that you can tell from essays about being poor in America that someone is sexually harassing co-workers? That’s ridiculous. No. I said I am not surprised that allegations of misbehaviour of whatever description came out. He pretty much admitted to be an asshole and an treating people poorly in his columns. And, BTW, his columns were not just about poverty in the US as such (Wong has also written on that), but on multiple “life topics”. Are you his lawyer perchance?:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/89 "2018-10-01T16:20:35Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I don’t think the “John Cheese #metoo” thing is related to the “Everyone Funny Is Let Go” thing. Good content wasn’t coming out because of the latter, not the former. They are completely unrelated as far as I know but this seems a good enough place to discuss both. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/90 "2018-10-01T16:29:44Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > They are completely unrelated as far as I know but this seems a good enough place to discuss both. Oh, for sure. I was just replying to **Flander** ’s “this explains a lot” ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/91 "2018-10-01T18:13:56Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Are you his lawyer perchance?:rolleyes: Oo. Good one. What a master ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/92 "2018-10-01T18:20:18Z")
The fratty website with fratty dudes running it didn’t treat women right?!? Gasp! Although, seriously, it is sad that someone who seemed to have matured enough in life to learn from his past did these things. Then again, everyone has their demons. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/93 "2018-10-01T18:24:20Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Oo. Good one. What a master I have to give some support to AK84 on this one. Mack Leighty wasn’t just writing generic comedy pieces; a lot of his material was autobiographical. So we did have a chance to see how Leighty viewed himself and viewed his place in the world. I didn’t specifically think he was a sexual predator. But I’m not shocked by the accusation. I feel it’s in accord with the general attitudes he expressed in his work. That said, I’m not saying this is my final judgement on Leighty. At the moment, he’s been accused. I’m waiting to see what develops from this. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/94 "2018-10-01T18:41:45Z")
Thanks **Little Nemo**. 🙂 But in this case he has accepted at least some of the wrong doing. The unsolicited obscene DM and text messages from 2014 he has copped to. Some of the other allegations seem rather general and vague, but he has accepts the accuracy of the worst of them. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/95 "2018-10-01T20:02:51Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > At the moment, he’s been accused. I’m waiting to see what develops from this. From the [Medium article](https://medium.com/@taliajane/how-i-became-my-own-ronan-farrow-87e847632d50) linked upthread, he’s been both accused and admitted to it – at least as far as that woman goes; don’t know if he’s admitted to the other incidents from other women she’s collected: > [@](#): > > Amid what was quickly becoming an avalanche of messages of support, questions, and verified accounts from two separate women (which would soon become three, and then four, and then six), Mack released an apology. > > His apology was focused on just me and the information I had presented about my experience. He confirmed my allegations, added to them, and then insisted that he had been in therapy and deeply sorry so all should be well. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/96 "2018-10-02T00:50:47Z")
I read Cracked, listen to the podcast, listen to Jack O’Brien’s newish podcast. While it seems that Wong/Pargin is doing the right thing now, I wonder how much he and Jack, for example, knew and how long they knew it. That Medium piece makes it sound like they sent it up to HR out of their control, but that’s also what people say when they know and don’t do shit. I worry most about Jack and David/Jason because I enjoy their stuff the most. Alex is ok, but he’s nothing special. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/97 "2018-10-02T04:13:22Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > The fratty website with fratty dudes running it didn’t treat women right?!? Gasp! > > Although, seriously, it is sad that someone who seemed to have matured enough in life to learn from his past did these things. Then again, everyone has their demons. Thats what happens when you think Delta House were the heroes of the film. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/98 "2018-10-02T08:07:36Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > don’t know if he’s admitted to the other incidents from other women she’s collected: Kinda? After he had it “pointed out” to him that there were others.:rolleyes: He [updated](https://medium.com/@johncheese_62352/i-owe-a-huge-apology-d7bde07b8042) his original apology on Medium: > [@](#): > > Edit: It’s been pointed out (and the people who pointed it out are correct) that this was a pattern of behavior at the time. I’m so sorry to everyone I hurt. Including the women I harassed, my family, my friends, and all the people who respected me. Nobody deserves to go through what I put them through. He didn’t address any specific other women. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611/99 "2018-10-03T00:47:34Z")
I found out last night Jack O’Brien [tweeted](https://twitter.com/jack_obrien/status/1044257234321006592?s=12) > [@](#): > > I’m happy for and proud of Talia and horrified by the revelations I didn’t know about until this weekend. When Talia came to us in 2014, we responded immediately within HR channels based on what we knew at that time. It’s now clear HR channels were not sufficient to the problem. and Talia replied > [@](#): > > i fully vouch for jack on this. the team i went to absolutely did their best and in speaking w/others, it’s become increasingly clear that the parent company’s hr department failed here, not jack or @JohnDiesattheEn. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cracked-lets-everyone-almost-you-know-go/803611.md?page=4)