# Crandall Spondular rides again!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 8, 2008, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669 "2008-07-08T08:22:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/1 "2008-07-08T08:22:36Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> From:Wan Yonghong  
> To: Mangetout
> 
> Dearest one,
> 
> Let me start by introducing myself I am  
> Mrs.WanYonghong the general chief auditor  
> in STANDARD CHARTERED BANK Hong Kong branch.
> 
> I have a proposal for you as a matter of  
> urgency,I am in pocession of sum of 21.35million  
> United States Dollars,unclaimed by our late client  
> who died four years ago,without stating any  
> beneficiary to his wealth after he has  
> deposited his funds in our Bank,and when the  
> investigation have been completed,none was  
> documented to be the next of kin in his file  
> 93AC300/W493TC,in our dept,I will send you the  
> details when you are interested. In this great  
> light,I want us to shares this fundson precentage  
> within ourself confidentially.I am the officer  
> assigned to his case;I made numerous suggestions  
> in line with my duties as the de-facto chief  
> operations officer of the Private Banking Service  
> Department, especially given the volume of funds  
> he wished to put into our bank and Cash movement  
> across borders has become especially strict since  
> the incidents of 9/11.
> 
> A person who suited his description was declared  
> dead of heart attack in Cannes, South of France,  
> and it has been confirmed by the investigation unit.  
> If you find yourself able to work with me,contact  
> through my personal email formore details on  
> how to transfer the total funds with your assistance  
> as the next of kin:wanyonghong@[snipped]
> 
> I wait your swift response and have a blessed day .
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Wan.

> [@](#):
>
> From: Mangetout  
> To: Wan Yonghong
> 
> Dear Wank
> 
> This sounds of very interesting i would like to do it please email me on my personal address: mangetout@[a different domain]
> 
> regards  
> Crandall Spondular

I then received two copies of this (two at each of the email addresses):

> [@](#):
>
> Dear Friend ,
> 
> Thank you for your response.
> 
> However,I want to inform you that I have received your mail and the content is well understood and noted perfectly.
> 
> So, thank you for giving me your time and please be patient and read my email I am a staff of Standard Chartered Bank attached in Private Banking services as the chief auditor in Hong Kong affiliated, I am contacting you concerning a customer who placed an investment under our banks management 4 years ago I contacted you independently of our investigation and none is informed of this communication of his next of kin and would like to intimate you with certain facts that I believe would be of interest to you.
> 
> The subject matter;ref:SSCB/SCB/bank/77 came to our bank to engage in business discussion with our Private Banking Service Department.He informed us that he had a financial portfolio of 21.35 million United States Dollars, which he wished to have us turn over on his behalf,but We met on numerous occasions prior to any investments being placed. I encouraged him to consider various growth funds with prime ratings.The favoured route in my advice to customers is to start by assessing data on 600 traditional stocks and bond managers and alternative investments.
> 
> Based on my advice, we spun the money around various opportunities and made attractive margins for our first month of operation, the accrued profit and interest stood at this point at over 24.10 million United States Dollars, this margin was not the full potential of the fund but he desired low risk guaranteed returns on investments.He asked that the money be liquidated because he needed to make an urgent investment requiring cash payments in Europe and Asia for security reasons,he directed that I liquidate the funds and had it deposited with afirm online,and I informed him that our bank would have to make special arrangements to have this done and in order not to circumvent due process, the bank would have to make a 9.5 % deduction from the funds to cater for banking and statutory charges.
> 
> He complained about the charges but later came around when I explained to him the complexities of the task he was asking of us, and then the cash movement across borders has become especially strict since the incidents of 9/11. I undertook all the processes and made sure I followed his precise instructions to the letter and had the funds deposited in our security consultancy custody, this department is a pecialistrivate that accepts deposits from high net worth individuals and blue chip corporations that handle valuable products or undertake transactions that need immediate access to cash.
> 
> This small and highly private organisation is familiar especially to the highly placed and well-connected organisations. In line with instructions, the money was deposited.He told me he wanted the money there in anticipation of his arrival from Norway later that week,and this was the last communication we had.
> 
> We commenced on outward and inward investigation an the general auditor in this institution and found out in regards of the inactivity of his a particular portfolio unclaimed since he dead was announced. This was an astounding position as far as I was concerned,given the fact that I managed the private banking sector I was the only one who knew about the deposit,and I could not understand why he had not come forward to claim his deposit till his was confirmed by the investigation directory,and I made futile efforts to locate him I immediately passed the task of locating him to the internal investigation in France several times in this department of our bank to be assured of his death.Four days later, information started to trickle in, that he was apparently dead and I now immediately launched an investigation persaonally as the chief general auditor to reviwe this file 93AC300/W493TC in my custody and I want to reassure you that you don’t have to be be worry about this issue at hand.
> 
> I want you also to come forward to claim his estate. If you are familiar with private banking affairs, those who patronize our services usually prefer anonymity, but also some levels of detachmentfrom conventional processes.In his bio-data form, he listed no next of kin. In the field of private banking,opening an account with us means no one will know outfits existence, accounts are rarely held under a name;depositors use numbers and codes to make the accounts anonymous.
> 
> This bank also gives the choice to depositors of having their mail sent to them or held at the bank itself, ensuring that there are no traces of the account and as I said, rarely do they nominate next of kin. Private banking clients apart from not nominating next of kin also usually in most cases leave wills in our care, in this case; he died in testate.
> 
> What I wish to relate to you will smack of unethical practise but I want you to understand something. It is only an outsider to the banking world who finds the internal politics of the banking world aberrational.The world of private banking especially is fraught with huge rewards for those who occupy certain offices and oversee certain portfolios.
> 
> You should have begun by now to put together the general direction of what I propose.There is US$ 21,350,000.00 deposited, I alone have the deposit details and they will release the deposit to no one unless I instruct them to do so. I alone know of the existence of this deposit for as far as the finance, the transaction with our deceased customer concluded when I sent the funds to the firm as he instructed, all outstanding interactions in relation to the file are just customer services, the history or nature of the deposit, because I was very considering the outcome as the chief order release officer have a good roll to play to enable me transfer the total to your account that you will set up in any affiliated,and they are simply awaiting instructions to release the deposit to any party that comes forward, and this is the situation, I need your assistance as the beneficiary.
> 
> This bank has spent great amounts of money trying to track this man’s family; they have investigated for months and have found no family.The investigation has come to an end and I have planned to transfer the funds with your name after the attorney that I will consult perfected the papers work as you the fully beneficiary of the funds.
> 
> My proposal details;
> 
> I am prepared to place you in a position to release the deposit to you as the closest surviving relation. Upon receipt of the deposit, I am prepared to share the money with you.That is, I will simply nominate you as the next of kin and release the total deposit to you.
> 
> Note: I will share with you 65/35 because I will take care of all the documentation of the papers work in my Bank and other vital procedures by the attorney, while you will only be responsible to set up an offshore account in one of our affiliated Bank in the overseas. I would have gone ahead to ask the funds be released to me, but that would have drawn a straight line to my Bank and my involvement in claiming the deposit, that made me to seek your assistant.
> 
> But on the other hand, you as a foreigner and also with all the necessary legal and official documentations from me and the presiding attorney and also with the authority vested upon me by the original depositor, you would easily pass as the beneficiary with the rights to claim. I assure you that I could have the deposit released to you in a few days as the authorised staff. I will simply inform our bank of the final closing of the file relating to the customer after the funds have be transferred into the offshore an account that you will open.
> 
> With these two things: all is done. The alternative would be for us to have this funds transfer to another bank with you as account holder. This way there will be no need for you to think of receiving the money from our Bank into your personal account base on the securities purposes and We can fine-tune this based on our interactions. I am aware of the consequences of this proposal. I ask that if you find no interest in this project that you should discard this mail.
> 
> I ask that you do not be vindictive or destructive.If my offer is of no appeal to you, delete this message and forget I ever contacted you. Do not destroy my career because you do not approve of my proposal. You may not know this but people like myself who have made tidy sums out of comparable situations run the whole private banking sector. I am not a criminal and what I do; I do not find against good conscience, this may be hard for you to understand, but the dynamics of my industry dictates that I make this move. Such opportunities only come once in a lifetime.
> 
> I cannot let this chance pass me by I hope you understand because for once I found myself in total control and face to face with my destiny. These chances won’t pass me by.I ask that you do not destroy my chance,if you will not work with me let me know and let me move on with my life but do not destroy me. I am a widow woman with 2 kids and this is an opportunity to provide them with new opportunities and there is a reward for this project and it is a task well worth undertaking. I have evaluated the risks and the only risk I have here is from you refusing to work with me and alerting my bank.I am the only one who knows of this situation, good fortune has blessed you with a name that has planted you into the centre of relevance in my life. Let’s share the blessing on this precentage.
> 
> Anyway, please observe this instruction religiously. Please note again,I am a widow with two kids. I send you this mail not without a measure of fear as to what the consequences might be, but I know within me that nothing ventured is nothing gained and that success and riches never come easy or on a platter of gold.
> 
> This is the one truth I have learned from my private banking clients. Do not betray my confidence. If we can be of one accord, we should plan a meeting,soon .
> 
> I await your response and have a nice weekend.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Wan Yonghong.

TLDR

> [@](#):
>
> Dear Wank
> 
> Thank you for email. It is very long and I can not understand it all. Please will you explain it again, using fewer words? I am not very much good with the English language.
> 
> thank you  
> Crandall

(I’m going for a non-English speaker persona, I think - makes misunderstanding, incompetence and non-compliance so much more fun)

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/2 "2008-07-08T08:23:37Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> Dear Friend,
> 
> Warm Greeting,I hope you are fine,I sincerely want to thank you for your email.
> 
> I will start by informing you that a comprehensive and thorough search have been conducted and there is no way anyone will even come forward to claim being a next of kin,as a matter of fact the search was conducted simply to have benefit of the doubt because actually searching was of no significance,because Mr.Johnson. M .Nault did not stupulate any next of kin in his official documents at my bank and under the law and policies of this bank nobody will claim being the next of kin,this is where my position plays a large role as an insider, besides if it would not be done perfectly I definitely will not have myself involved or even have decided to execute this transaction,you need to consider that I have my family and dignity to live up to.
> 
> Please be informed that the Hong Kong Government is subject to Laws of the Chinese Government,and certainly there will be no such thing as paying back the funds to my bank or the Government,once the funds have left my bank it would be the end about that issue. Also going to Jail is not even an option,you have to understand that anything that affects you is a worse situation for me,trouble for you is more trouble for me,I will not be foolish enough to make even the slightest mistake.
> 
> However, I would like to be convinced of your willingness, commitment and most of all your trustworthiness to execute this transaction with me, I certainly cannot afford to compromise any of these virtues, you know what I mean, I have my principles.
> 
> Without doubt you will eventually earn the benefits of our partnership if we are able to work things out and have the funds relocated within a week or thereabout,and thereafter disbursed to other respective accounts,it is indeed necessary for me to be certain of the person to whom I will be entrusting this transaction,my trust will definitely not be given out lightly, I need to be convinced that you are a matured person with some integrity, we should at least have respect for each other, this I would say is very essential.
> 
> With regards to the legality, I want to inform you that the attorney will prepare the Affidavits which shall legally put you in place as next of kin under our Law; he shall obtain the necessary clearances which will cover all the aspects involved in this transaction from the authorities including the Justice Department.
> 
> I must also inform you that you will not have to travel for any reason, because the attorney shall be handling all matters of probate on your behalf, you will be duly represented by the attorney, he is an accredited Lawyer with vast experience in issues of inheritance, and my Bank here normally consult him when we have affiliated issues. He will have all the paper work perfected, and with these documents shall be used forward to file for the immediate release and transfer of the funds, as a matter of fact I have been a professional banker for years and I know perfectly how the system works. Like I said before, due to this issue on my hands now it became necessary for me to seek your assistance, I appreciate the fact that you are ready to assist me in executing this project, and also you will help me to invest my share in your country,I am quite certain about that.
> 
> The fact that you have responded to my emails to you gives me the reasons to believe that you are fully committed towards the realisation of success . The world of international banking at present is that which entails a lot of documenting and un-necessary protocols which some times is very demanding . Your best or nothing is what is requested in this transaction , the amount in question is such that all must be done according to my instructions being in the banking sector gives me the edge over certain issues like this .
> 
> Hong Kong has been a major contributor to the rise in global economy due to the huge international investments from the west. This global recognition also paved way for western modernisations , in dressing , policies , banking. The Hong Kong authorities have been widely criticised in the past for propping up indebted companies, but Hong Kong’s recent handling of its banking crisis has won praise from the Paris-based Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). Bankruptcy in Hong Kong is being dealt with a heavy hand , this has given room to corruption and irregular accounting and audit.
> 
> Transactions like this should be handled with utmost caution, I have categorically expressed my sincere appreciations but one very important aspect is this,I will not condone any set-backs after I have released all these confidential information to you along the line you withdraw due to one reason or the other ,It is pertinent at this point for me to inform you that being part of this transaction would only be at your free will I cannot impose this on you,it is your choice to accept or disagree with the principles of this business or even with the transaction as a whole, but at least I deserve the privilege of knowing your decision what ever it may be.
> 
> I also want you to know that I will do every thing to make sure that it is done in accordance with all the international law binding claim and inheritance, some thing you most always have at the back of your mind in that if any thing go wrong I will have my job to loss and go to jail.I can not let my children down so know that I am as careful more than you can think.
> 
> What I really expect from you is complete trust and commitment; I want this large sum of money transferred with your assistance, and as a banker I know that if we follow up this transaction diligently it would be completed within 9 working days, this is the stipulated time frame and if you work with me I will handle everything perfectly, my position as an insider will go a long way.
> 
> I have to know if you are willing to follow up this business seriously before I can give you more details about this transaction hence proceed, as a result of which I shall be waiting for your response and assurance, you need to be someone whom I can rely upon, at least for absolute commitment and trust.
> 
> I hope we shall not go into debates, disputes or misunderstanding, I believe in doing things I claim to be capable of doing, it is a simple issue and you will see it accomplished before your very eyes, I wont waste my time chasing the wind, I mean what I say and I do the things which I know I can handle perfectly, it is my principle and this is how I work. The main point you must understand is that I am not imposing this transaction on you, you have the option of backing out at this early stage, but please we have to respect each other and you have to be honest with me, I don;t want to waste any resources of mine if you really don’t believe in what you want to stand for.
> 
> To be honest with you I know transactions like this are phenomenal perhaps because of the huge funds involved, but do not fail to understand that such transactions do take place most often in the Private banking sector and they are usually spearheaded by insiders in the banks, and sometimes even among top executives, abandoned funds like these are prone to being channeled elsewhere and also my dear send the level of investment in your country to me,so that I will know the type of investment I will put my share in your care.  
> Above is a raw and outright breakdown of what is involved in this transaction.
> 
> Please, confirm your interest and willingness to execute this with me and I will tell you the next step to follow,I really have to be sure of your sincere commitment and 100% trust.
> 
> I wait to hear from you anyway, I have spoken my honest mind to you this day and have a great day ahead.
> 
> Honest Regards,
> 
> Mrs.Wan.

I think I’m still only getting the impersonal cut ‘n’ paste treatment so far, so…

> [@](#):
>
> Dear Wank
> 
> Thank for your reply, but again, so many, many words. I cannot understand the length, please can you tell the shorter?
> 
> Thanks  
> Crandall

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**Author:** ![gardentraveler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gardentraveler/32/3576_2.png) [@gardentraveler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gardentraveler)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/3 "2008-07-08T09:32:52Z")

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:: Pulls up chair and waits for next installment.::

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/4 "2008-07-08T09:43:30Z")

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Is it unusual that a scammer would claim to be operating out of Hong Kong?

If they’re just pretending, I imagine most of the responses will be pretty impersonal, to avoid tipping off their marks.

If they have a local HK accomplice, however, that’s VERY interesting. I’ll pull up a chair as well.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/5 "2008-07-08T12:32:45Z")

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Mr. Wank certainly goes on about his honor and principles, doesn’t he?

Are there any special situations that you’re going to throw at Wank? Other than not being a native English-speaker, that is.

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**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/6 "2008-07-08T12:58:10Z")

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Mrs. Wank Youngdong is going to town on the OED there. It’s good to know that you needn’t put in much effort, and the education on Hong Kong’s contribution to the global economy must surely assuage any fears you may have that this could be anything other than a bona fide opportunity for a good samaritan to help out a fellow human and make some fine pin money in the process, right?

She sounds like a dear. Help her out, won’t you?

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/7 "2008-07-08T13:44:43Z")

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I didn’t realize it was a _Mrs_. Wank. It’s obviously a real deal then. Be sure to remember us who morally supported you when you’re rich, Mr. Spondular.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/8 "2008-07-08T14:17:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Hypno-Toad]  
Are there any special situations that you’re going to throw at Wank? Other than not being a native English-speaker, that is.  
[/QUOTE]

I thought Crandall might like to reveal that he too is in Hong Kong, but only after the scammer has made it very abundantly clear that he(she) is supposedly trying to transfer funds out of China.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/9 "2008-07-08T14:23:21Z")

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Too easy. How about Macau, or (heh) Taiwan?

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/10 "2008-07-08T14:31:42Z")

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No, Nigeria!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/11 "2008-07-08T14:39:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Oy!]  
No, Nigeria!  
[/QUOTE]

That would be hilarious.

“Come to my house in Abuja! I have many whores!”

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/12 "2008-07-08T15:38:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Darth Nader]  
Too easy. How about Macau, or (heh) Taiwan?  
[/QUOTE]

How about it turns out that, not only are you not a native English speaker, but you’d prefer to correspond in Chinese?

Of course, the scammer would probably just drop you as not being worth the trouble.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/13 "2008-07-08T17:20:52Z")

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I’m looking forward to another installment of “The Crandall Spondular Files”. Although the wrestler will always hold a special place in my heart I think Asian man may bring more comedy.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/14 "2008-07-08T20:43:27Z")

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“I won’t waste my time chasing the wind.”

😃

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**Author:** ![Sunrazor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sunrazor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunrazor)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/15 "2008-07-08T20:50:55Z")

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::sneaks a chair in from the kitchen, sits next to \*\*gardentraveler \*\* and wonders why \*\*mangetout \*\* doesn’t just take the money. ::

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/16 "2008-07-08T21:19:41Z")

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Say that you’re stranded in Pitcairn Island until the next boat arrives, and you don’t know when that’ll be, and you have to share a 1200-baud satellite link.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2008, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crandall-spondular-rides-again/455669/17 "2008-07-09T07:51:26Z")

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I’m still only getting the copy and paste responses:

> [@](#):
>
> Dear Partner,
> 
> Thank you once again for your genuine interest in this transaction, I am very glad to note that you are a noble, matured, and trustworthy person whom I can rely on for your capabilities to handle this transaction, and for a person of your status and experience I am very confident doing this business with you.
> 
> Like I said before, due to this issue on my hands now it became necessary for me to seek your assistance and due to my research on Banking policy,I can’t effect the transfer to you straight here to your country Bank, because it is not so good to use old account information base on financial security login code, and this online account that you are going to open will be in your name, and the Bank will issue new account details to you which you will send to me so that the transfer will take place as soon as possible.
> 
> And then, you will inform the Bank that you are expecting transfer from your client in Hong Kong. I will effect the transfer into the new account that you will open online and it will not cause further alarm and you don’t have to be worried,I will send our affiliated Bank contact to you as soon as the documentations is been completed with your name as the next of kin, so that you can only instruct the Bank online to transfer our various shares into our account of our choice in the world in bit due to the confidentiality in this project .
> 
> Meanwhile,I appreciate the fact that you are ready to assist me in executing this project, and I want to assure you once again that you should not have anything to worry about, I will do everything legally required to ensure that the project goes smoothly, it shall pass through all Laws of International Banking, and you have my word.
> 
> Having resolved to entrust this transaction into your hands, I want to remind you that it needs your commitment and diligent follow up. If you work seriously, the entire transaction should be over in a couple of days as I have earlier stated.
> 
> ```
> READ THE FOLLOWING AND GET BACK TO ME:
> 
> ```
> 
> Firstly, you should note that this project is highly capital intensive, this is why I have to be very careful, I need your total devotion and trust to see this through, I know we have not met before but I am very confident that we will be able to establish the necessary trust that we need to execute this project.
> 
> As a result of this, I will obtain a certificate of deposit from this my bank, it will be issued in your name, and this will make you the bonafide owner of the funds. After this the money will be banked online for both of us and we can then instruct the bank to transfer our various shares into our respective home bank accounts, I will also perfect the documentations with the assistance of my attorney to give the transaction the legal right and he told me on our last communication that if the client will not come personally he/she should fill for claim before the documentations commence.
> 
> ```
> ATTORNEY BENEFICIARY RELEASE FORM:
> 
> ```
> 
> 1.Name in full-------  
> 2.Address------------  
> 3.Age----------------  
> 4.Occupation---------  
> 5.Phone/Fax----------  
> 6.Next of kin--------  
> 7.Send me a copy of any form your identification (International passport or Dirver’s Linense) via Fax 852-301-42026 Code:+852 or E-mail attachment.
> 
> I want to be sure that I am transacting with the correct person, as soon as I get these from you I will commence on the paper work. I hope you will understand why this transaction should be documented under Hong Kong laws I need all these, it will be use on the documentation of the papers work with your name as the rightful beneficiary to the funds and also the total money in question is big and I want to ensure that I know you well before I proceed to give you all the details to commence the project, I will also send you my international passport and other information upon receipt of your identification.
> 
> As soon as I receive this from you,I will contact with him with the details because he will be representing me in this transaction due to the nature of these funds. He will prepare all the necessary documents that you will need to transfer the funds.. I will be responsible for the legal charges of perfecting all legal documentations of the papers work and the taxes both local and international then you don’t have to pay any tax when I effect the transfer to your new account online but you will only be responsible for your offshore new account activiation charges which I believe it will not cost you much as well and it will be your personal account as the account holder and also the transfer of  
> the funds will go along with your name as the next of kin.
> 
> Ensure that you keep this project confidential, do not discuss it with anybody, because of the confidential nature of this transaction and my work.
> 
> Please reply soonest and have a blessed day ahead.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Wan(Mrs).

I’m going to keep on pushing the comprehension failure angle until I get something that looks a bit more human-authored, then we can have some fun.

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>
> Dear Wank
> 
> Your message was too much length for me to read, I am sorry, but the English is hard for me and I have only a few hundreds of words.
> 
> Please say again what you want, using a smaller number of words, fewer of them and also, not so many.
> 
> Thank you  
> Crandall
