# Crank fights - now that's entertainment

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 21, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864 "2023-08-21T14:40:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/1 "2023-08-21T14:40:41Z")

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Two beauts have broken out.

In one corner of the antivax ring we have Karen Kingston, Pfizer “whistleblower” who accuses mRNA vaccine “inventor” Robert Malone of being part of a CIA plot to assassinate her. While denying it on Substack, Malone invokes a sinister conspiracy… against himself.

"As some of you may know, I write about fifth generation warfare from the point of view of someone who has been constantly subjected to it for about three years. Day in and day out. Five, ten times a day. Coordinated waves of attacks, some clearly coming from corporate media cooperating with the US Government and Pharma, others from the fevered imaginations of a wide variety of individual actors with a wide variety of motivations, and some coming from coordinated cyberstalker teams of bots and trolls – which the Epoch Times has documented are at least partially paid for and facilitated by the Foundation for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.”

Heavy stuff.

Meanwhile, Project Veritas has experienced mass firings of staff in the the wake of the departure of head James O’Keefe, who’s now under investigation in Westchester County. Accusations are flying, including a claim that “disgruntled” employees are behind anti- O’Keefe leaks.\*

> **[Fired founder of right-wing org Project Veritas is under investigation in New...](https://apnews.com/article/james-okeefe-project-veritas-westchester-investigation-9ba0592a335c00c8579c0e33a4968fc9)**
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> The fired founder of conservative nonprofit Project Veritas is under investigation by a suburban New York prosecutor’s office for allegedly mistreating workers and misspending organization funds.

\*Jackmannii’s First Law of Whistleblowing says that when an organization under fire or its representatives label aggrieved workers as “disgruntled”, it’s likely that their claims are valid.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/2 "2023-08-21T14:46:02Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Accusations are flying, including a claim that “disgruntled” employees are behind anti- O’Keefe leaks.\*

Well, it _would_ be the heights of weirdness if it were the gruntled employees leaking things.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/3 "2023-08-21T15:10:20Z")

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The grunts are disgruntled? You’d be unhappy too. No one wants their gruntling interfered with! Also. The Epoch Times? _There’s_ a reliable source for information on conspiracies, all right, though not quite the way he think.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/4 "2023-08-21T15:26:15Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> > [@Mallone](#):
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> > … are at least partially paid for and facilitated by the Foundation for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.”

Hmm. Is the “Foundation for the CDCP” a fake group that’s trading on a name similar to the official government CDCP? Or does this mean there is an organization called simply the “Foundation” and the real CDCP is using them as a deniable frontman for their nefarious government schemes against Malone and all humanity?

Enquiring minds want to know what sort of BS is circulating in these idjits’ heads.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/5 "2023-08-21T20:00:50Z")

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I’ve always wondered why so many people are disgruntled, but no one ever seems to be gruntled.

(One of my unfinished novels features members of a band named the Gruntles.)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/6 "2023-08-21T20:35:00Z")

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Darn few people are caught aware either.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/7 "2023-08-21T20:37:06Z")

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And when’s the last time you were plussed by a new development?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/8 "2023-08-21T20:56:27Z")

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That seems a sequitur to my prior post. 😁

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/9 "2023-08-21T21:14:20Z")

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And has that made you thoroughly combobulated?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/10 "2023-08-21T21:17:32Z")

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Scratch and deep-massage a cocker spaniel around the ears, and you’ll see a very gruntled creature.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/11 "2023-08-21T21:17:51Z")

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If you decant wine from a bottle into a decanter, do you then cant the wine into a glass? It being a bit after 5pm here this question has taken on a new urgency. My combobulation and gruntlement depends upon an answer.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/12 "2023-08-21T21:51:47Z")

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I would venture an answer, but I lack specific expertise and I might have to recant.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/13 "2023-08-21T22:05:25Z")

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If they’re disgruntled are they even grunts anymore? The gruntling has been reversed, which should have removed their status as grunts.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/14 "2023-08-21T22:09:50Z")

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[Grunts approvingly for this thread] 🙂

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/15 "2023-08-22T07:16:09Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> …do you then cant the wine into a glass?

You cant.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/16 "2023-08-22T08:20:44Z")

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If you do, you will spill some, so the procedure is not advised. Latin “canthus” refers to the corner or lip of a vessel (with “decanting” believed to refer to “pouring from the corner or rim”, presumably to avoid dispensing sediment), so “canting” wine into a glass would logically be pouring it onto the rim, resulting in part of it splashing outward.

Mind you, when sufficient wine has been consumed, a state in which one cant-pour wine might result.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/17 "2023-08-22T13:42:56Z")

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[Oh, you’re no fun anymore!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svstp1CWuF0)

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**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2023, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/18 "2023-08-27T23:45:33Z")

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Works for me, too.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/19 "2023-08-28T04:10:04Z")

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How come houses don’t have salt cellars anymore?

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crank-fights-now-thats-entertainment/988864/20 "2023-08-28T18:35:31Z")

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So many people being salty on the internet keeps the salt in circulation and prevents people from hoarding it, so there’s no need anymore.
