# Crappy Poetry in NYC Subways

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 19, 2001, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876 "2001-01-19T15:32:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2001, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/21 "2001-01-20T05:56:59Z")

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BTW, there is a long passage about 9 lines long adorning the wall in the tunnel on the L line, between 3rd Av and 1st Av stations. I tried for the longest time to read that one. but the trian never slows down enough for me to do it.

What is sad is that the Keith Haring drawings alongside the tunnel to the Manhattan Bridge (IND Side) will no longer be seen for a long while due to track diversions.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2001, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/22 "2001-01-20T07:19:52Z")

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Subway tunnel is  
very dark; I fear I have  
many syllables.

1, 2, 3, and 9.  
They are the pink line; Broadway  
They stop at Times Square

I write bad Haikus  
About mass transportation  
In the Big City

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2001, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/23 "2001-01-20T09:18:43Z")

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Hmmm, I wonder how much it costs to put up a poem like that. I’m thinking there are a few of us here that might be willing to kick in a few bucks to see some T. S. Eliot or something in the subways. You know, something that would be worthwhile, and public domain.

Ike, I’d imagine that in new York City, there’s probably a handful of people that have nothing better to do than oppose the use of Ezra Pound due to his politics. Probably not worth it as an act of charity.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2001, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/24 "2001-01-20T14:39:17Z")

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Oh, I think ol’ Ez came around to more liberal democratic ways of thinking in his later years. A few weeks in a monkey cage’ll do that to you.

And if you want me to PAY to put up poems, rather than just complain about the poems other people pick, I’m gonna want my OWN poetry posted!

Let’s see…we’ve had limericks and haiku…how about some clerihews?

The Honorable Rudolph Giuliani  
Must think life is fonny.  
While the city goes to the dogs  
His ex-wife performs in THE VAGINA MONOLOGUES.

The Reverend Al Sharpton  
Is constantly harped on.  
Though he’s used to the media glare  
Nearly everyone laughs at his hair.

The art of Keith Haring  
I find rather wearing.  
But because he’s dead as a door…(nail)  
He can’t produce any more.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2001, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/25 "2001-01-20T14:56:51Z")

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At midnight, in a subway dreary, while I waited, weak and weary  
Knowing that no train would show…then at once, four  
While I waited, bored and grumping, suddnly there came a thumping  
Thumping just like people jumping, jumping on the subway floor.  
“Tis the janitors”, I mutterered “Thumping on the subway floor.  
Only this…and nothing more.”

It was an ad-man I discover, hamm’ring up 'neath plastic cover  
Posters/Adverts of some poems, pasted from the roof to floor.  
Eagerly I read his copy, hoping they would make me happy  
“Oh, but these are really crappy!”- “They’re Crap!” I cried, and cried once more-  
For the rare and beautiful poems not advertised by this bookstore-  
Quoth Barnes & Noble: “Buy some more!”

Edgar Allen Fenris

or

In the Subways of Big Apple  
'Neath the shining Chrysler building  
Hung are posters of the poets  
Maudlin ‘Rod McKuen’ poets  
Posted there by Barnes and Noble…etc

Henry Wadsworth LongFenris

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2001, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/26 "2001-01-20T17:01:48Z")

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Ukelele Ike  
Knows what he doesn’t like,  
Poetic treacle,  
In his subterranean vehicle.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2001, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/27 "2001-01-20T17:25:30Z")

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Two fellows, **Finagle** and **Fenris**  
Write poems that are really _sui generis._  
Some mistake 'em, I’m told  
For giants in _Das Rheingold_  
But, rather than wealthy, they’re penurious.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2001, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/28 "2001-01-20T20:50:12Z")

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Not that penurious. I’d have done it for Freia.

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**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2001, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/29 "2001-01-21T01:49:47Z")

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**Ike** , I’m with you. The drivel that passes for high culture, or even regular culture for that matter, is enough to gag a maggot. Having produced open mic’s that featured poets among the musicians I will say that there is some good poetry out there. That said, some slams I’ve attended were more pretentious than a rhinestone cowboy.

I’m not sure what it is that prevents people from instilling depth in their work, but most of it is just plain dreadful.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2001, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/30 "2001-01-21T19:22:41Z")

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Wait, wait, wait.

I’m not attacking live-mike poetry nights, poetry slams, or modern poetry.

I’m attacking the crappy choice of poetry excerpts that get put up in the NYC subway system. That’s all.

Heck, I LIKE poetry slams.

The Gulf Stream smells of blood  
As it breaks on the sand of Iona  
And the blue rocks of Canarvon.  
And all the birds of the deep sea rise up  
Over the luxury liners and scream,  
“You killed him! You killed him.  
In your God damned Brooks Brothers suit,  
You son of a bitch.”

– Kenneth Rexroth, “Thou Shalt Not Kill: A Memorial for Dylan Thomas”

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2001, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/31 "2001-01-21T19:22:55Z")

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Midnight, in a metro dreary, while I waited, weak and weary  
Waiting for the train that was supposed to come at 12:04  
While I waited, nearly snoring, suddenly there came a roaring;  
It vibrated through the flooring, through the platform’s granite floor.  
“Tis the train at last,” I muttered, “that doth through the tunnel roar;  
Only this…and nothing more.”

This took place, I recollect, at metro station Joliette,  
And no westbound train had yet disturbed the silence the air bore;  
Eagerly I wish’d to be rolling to Place-St-Henri  
Where at home awaited me dinner warm and bed in store;  
A larder full of victuals and a comfy bed in store;  
At that point I wish’d no more.

And the truly hideous styling metro Joliette reviling  
Made me want to flee the urine-yellow walls and hideous floor;  
So that now to quell the violence of the hues, I closed my eyelids  
And awaited the train’s pilot’s ingress and the opening door;  
The ka-thunk that doth accompany the opening of the door;  
This I wanted, nothing more.

Presently the roar diminished, but my wait was not yet finished;  
For no metro train stood waiting, and by this time I was sore;  
“Truly,” muttered I in summing, as my fingers started drumming,  
“Longer is this train in coming then my third boyfriend Igor,  
Who would leave my wrist exhausted when we coupled - that Igor -  
Him I’m glad to see no more.”

Then more hollow than a funnel came the roar from out the tunnel,  
So I walk’d unto the gunwale and continued waiting for  
The train which to me was promis’d; but t’was cursed by St. Thomas,  
By the callous Doubting Thomas who believèd not that roar;  
For no train’s swift advance produced that falsely cheerful roar,  
Silenced now forevermore.

And your poet, never flitting, still am sitting, still am sitting,  
Here in hideous Joliette metro, or am pacing 'long the floor;  
For the train that would have banished all this boredom seems t’have vanished,  
In some strange Klein-bottle tunnel which the drivers all abhor;  
And my soul shall from this metro station which I do abhor  
Be transported - nevermore!

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2001, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/32 "2001-01-22T18:06:37Z")

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God, what wonderful style-parodies!! I hope you’re taking the opportunity to sign Fenris to a good contract, Ike, before he gets away.

> [@](#):
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> If you’re short of reading material, aren’t the words of the prophets still written on the subway walls?

I knew before I opened this that somebody would have already make the obligatory Paul Simon reference. But my anecdote is of seeing, on one of my rare excursions to the Big Pippin, the work of a graffiti artist who shares my warped sense of humor. In that florid style affected by _graffitisti_ he had put chapter-and-verse cites to Isaiah, Joel, and Micah up on the walls of one station. Evidently the cleaning crew had gotten to them, but without sandblasting, because they were faint but visible. So you can count me a Paul Simon Fundamentalist – his words are literally true! 😉

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2001, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/33 "2001-01-22T18:45:15Z")

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Matt, that was incredible! (I never realized how weird the rhyme scheme of The Raven was until I wrote my version…that second line is a pain in the butt.)

Fenris

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2001, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/34 "2001-01-22T19:30:18Z")

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Sonia Sanchez is a woman. And a talented writer.

I see your point but I also wonder whether poetry has to be obscure to be good. Is this why _Ulysses_ is considered the best, because no one can understand it? Langston Hughes had some really simple words that are still great–he’s my favorite because I can undertand what he’s talking about; maybe I don’t have the training, but does that take away from his poetry?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2001, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crappy-poetry-in-nyc-subways/50876/35 "2001-01-22T19:35:57Z")

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[sup] **by Vatchel Fenris** [/sup]

Waiting for the subway in the dank tunnel’s gloom  
Listen for the rattle of the trains (like hail  
rattl’ing on the window) as it thunders on the rail  
Thunders on the rail  
Rumbles down the tunnel like a drummer in a room  
Or hamm’ring on a nail  
boom, Boom, BOOM  
Like a heavy-metal drumming that echoes in a room  
Boomlay, Boomlay, Boomlay, BOOM  
Then I heard it nearing, then it’s breaks were squealing  
It made such a noise that it sent my senses reeling  
Then I saw the Railcar coming down the tube  
Coming towards the station like a needle in a groove  
Then inside that station  
A thousand people  
Grey-suited businessmen, who were almost asleep will  
Start pushing forward, pushing towards the train  
Pushing, shoving, causing pain  
“MOVE!” screamed the housewives and the students and the kids  
“Whatcha think I’m doin’?” yelled the workers as they did.  
Pushing into the subway car  
Going from the Bronx  
to the Battery far  
Rattle-rattle, rattle-rattle  
bing  
Boomlay, Boomlay, Boomlay, BOOM  
The car’s doors close, there’s no more room.  
From swank Fifth Ave  
To Hell’s kitchen’s gloom  
Listen for the conductor’s proclamations  
As you travel through the lairs of Manhattan’s stations  
As you travel 'neath cars in gridlock trapped  
As you travel down the tunnels that are barely mapped  
Get off the train 'fore the end of the route  
Or your conductor and the subway cops  
And all the other New York Cops  
Will enter your car and will throw you out  
Will enter your car and will throw you out  
Will enter your car and will throw you out

Two notes:

1. This may be my favorite poem ever. I love poems that you _have_ to read aloud. But it’s incredibly politically incorrect nowadays.

2. For those of you familiar with the original, yeah, I cut some verses in the middle.

Fenris

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