# Crawford says: "Vote for Kerry". Time to stick a fork in Bush? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 30, 2004, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crawford-says-vote-for-kerry-time-to-stick-a-fork-in-bush/266948 "2004-09-30T23:14:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crawford-says-vote-for-kerry-time-to-stick-a-fork-in-bush/266948/1 "2004-09-30T23:14:06Z")
As a psuedo-counterpoint to [this thread:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=278212) > [@](#): > > [**Crawford Newspaper Endorses Kerry**](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040928/ap_on_el_pr/crawford_kerry) > > A tiny weekly newspaper that bills itself as President Bush (news - web sites)'s hometown paper has endorsed John Kerry (news - web sites) for president, saying the Massachusetts senator will restore American dignity. > > The Lone Star Iconoclast, which has a weekly circulation of 425, said in an editorial dated Sept. 29 that Texans should rate the candidates not by hometown or political party, but by where they intend to take the country. > > …The newspaper praised Kerry for “30 years of experience looking out for the American people” and lauded his background as “a highly decorated Vietnam veteran.” Humorous tweaking of **Weirddave’s** thread aside, is this another sign of eroding support among Bush’s base? The paper was in support of Bush and the Iraq war back in 2003, but has apparently been disillusioned by the facts and Bush’s unilateralist policies. What do the tea leaves say in Karl Rove’s cup? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crawford-says-vote-for-kerry-time-to-stick-a-fork-in-bush/266948/2 "2004-09-30T23:22:48Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > Humorous tweaking of **Weirddave’s** thread aside, is this another sign of eroding support among Bush’s base? Yep. Kerry’s got a lock now. Might as well forget about campaigning-- the election is over, baby! ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crawford-says-vote-for-kerry-time-to-stick-a-fork-in-bush/266948/3 "2004-09-30T23:33:59Z")
If even one percent of the readers are swayed by their endorsement, well, that’s 4 votes right there. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crawford-says-vote-for-kerry-time-to-stick-a-fork-in-bush/266948/4 "2004-09-30T23:38:54Z")
[Eisenhower’s Son Endorses Kerry](http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/30/kerry.eisenhower.ap/) > [@](#): > > In a rare public announcement, Eisenhower said he switched his party affiliation from Republican to independent after 50 years after losing confidence in his former party. He said Kerry has demonstrated courage, competence and a concern for tackling the “widening socio-economic gap in this country.” > > “There are times when we must break with the past, and I believe this is one of them,” Eisenhower wrote in the opinion column published Tuesday in The Union Leader of Manchester, New Hampshire. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crawford-says-vote-for-kerry-time-to-stick-a-fork-in-bush/266948/5 "2004-10-01T04:23:15Z")
This is and has always been Kerry’s election to lose (it’s a referendum on a sitting Prez who’s made a total mess of everything he’s touched in 4 years) but there’s still time for the Democrats to do what they seem to do best: snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. I do like the idea of sticking a fork into Bush though. ::wonders if the Secret Service will be paying a visit to my apartment to discuss Forks as a Medium of Assasination:: ---
**Author:** ![Chance\_the\_Gardener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@Chance\_the\_Gardener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chance_the_Gardener)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crawford-says-vote-for-kerry-time-to-stick-a-fork-in-bush/266948/6 "2004-10-02T14:01:26Z")
Bush will also fail to win much support in his _real_ home town of New Haven, Connecticut. **Squink** pointed out that Dwight Eisenhower’s son has endorsed Kerry, but he’s not the only descendent of Republican families to do so. Prominent New York City investment banker Theodore Roosevelt IV has also supported John Kerry. Roosevelt has supported Kerry financially, but has preferred not to make a very big deal out of this support, because he doesn’t want to give the impression that he’s writing off his party—just that he’s writing off George W. Bush, I imagine. This was reported in the _New York Observer_ back in the summer. ---
**Author:** ![presidebt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@presidebt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/presidebt)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crawford-says-vote-for-kerry-time-to-stick-a-fork-in-bush/266948/7 "2004-10-02T17:04:02Z")
> [@Chance the Gardener](#): > > **Squink** pointed out that Dwight Eisenhower’s son has endorsed Kerry, but he’s not the only descendent of Republican families to do so. Prominent New York City investment banker Theodore Roosevelt IV has also supported John Kerry. Yep. It’s on [this](http://www.plp.org/cd04/cd0512.html) page, 6th paragraph down: > [@](#): > > Political in-fighting among the rulers has sharpened over Bush’s failures in Iraq. Theodore Roosevelt IV, a managing director at Lehman Brothers Wall St. investment house, has a Republican pedigree a mile long. This great-grandson of President Teddy Roosevelt – the butcher of Cuba and the Philippines – spoke at the 2000 Republican convention that nominated Bush. On April 14, he turned up at a Kerry fund-raiser saying he was “distressed with the national leadership of the Republican Party.” He was joined by a chorus of like-minded Republicans, all pillars of Eastern Establishment finance or commerce (New York Observer, 4/26), and part of a campaign spearheaded by the New York Times and the liberals to dump the Bush crowd. And let’s not forget Ron Reagan’s [Case Against George W. Bush](http://www.esquire.com/features/articles/2004/040729_mfe_reagan_1.html). I wonder how much precedent there is for this kind of thing. Anyone know? ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2004, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crawford-says-vote-for-kerry-time-to-stick-a-fork-in-bush/266948/8 "2004-10-04T02:50:35Z")
> [@presidebt](#): > > And let’s not forget Ron Reagan’s [Case Against George W. Bush](http://www.esquire.com/features/articles/2004/040729_mfe_reagan_1.html). That Ron has a beef with GWB is not a shocking revelation. Just because he’s the son of Ronald doesn’t mean he has the same political leanings. If it was Michael Reagan, then that would be a shocking revelation.