# Crazy-Ass Cop Shooting Video!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 3, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191 "2010-05-03T18:27:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/1 "2010-05-03T18:27:22Z")

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Check this out!  
When you see the gun come out of the car you can hear a “click”. The guy stuck a loaded gun in the cops face and pulled the trigger – the hammer fell on an empty chamber- the cop moved back and the guy fired a round and missed the cop - the cop emptied his gun and killed the guy.

Resolution is good enough to blow it up into fullscreen. Good job, officer!

> **[Hamilton officer cleared in fatal shooting during January traffic stop](https://missoulian.com/news/local/article_2dd02134-477f-11df-aba6-001cc4c002e0.html?mode=video)**
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> HAMILTON - A coroner's inquest found Tuesday that Hamilton Police Officer Ross Jessop was justified in shooting Raymond Thane Davis to death after the Hamilton man opened fire during a

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/2 "2010-05-03T18:37:24Z")

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Holy shit! I don’t know what to say other than the officer is really lucky to be alive. That was nuts!

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**Author:** ![Beerman1963](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@Beerman1963](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beerman1963)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/3 "2010-05-03T18:55:08Z")

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Wow stands there talking to the guy before he tries to open up on him.  
I wonder the guy was thinking?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/4 "2010-05-03T18:56:28Z")

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Wow.

Very well handled by the officer. Is there a whole news story to go with this?

By the way, here is another scary incident. You can’t see it, but the man attacking the officer bit his eyebrow clean off and was going to kill him.

Warning: Pretty intense video below.

[Officer Shoots Attacker](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpziJTlv7Cw)

[Mallory had bitten an eyebrow off Anderson, punched him, choked him and slammed his head against the pavement.](http://qctimes.com/news/local/article_82a1f54e-82a3-11de-9019-001cc4c03286.html)

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/5 "2010-05-03T18:57:22Z")

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> [@Beerman1963](#):
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> Wow stands there talking to the guy before he tries to open up on him.  
> I wonder the guy was thinking?

With your user name I figured you’d understand. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Animastryfe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Animastryfe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Animastryfe)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/6 "2010-05-03T18:58:29Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Wow.
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> Very well handled by the officer. Is there a whole news story to go with this?
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> By the way, here is another scary incident. You can’t see it, but the man attacking the officer bit his eyebrow clean off and was going to kill him.
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> Warning: Pretty intense video below.
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> [Officer Shoots Attacker](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpziJTlv7Cw)
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> [Mallory had bitten an eyebrow off Anderson, punched him, choked him and slammed his head against the pavement.](http://qctimes.com/news/local/article_82a1f54e-82a3-11de-9019-001cc4c03286.html)

The first link of the most popular news stories feed on the right has the story.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/7 "2010-05-03T19:01:50Z")

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> [@Beerman1963](#):
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> Wow stands there talking to the guy before he tries to open up on him.  
> I wonder the guy was thinking?

Guy has too much to drink and now he’s dead. Real smooth, buddy.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/8 "2010-05-03T19:05:19Z")

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[Full News Article about the situation in the OP](http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_2dd02134-477f-11df-aba6-001cc4c002e0.html)

Here is a quote about the office and the situation from the relevant news article:

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> Jessop heard a click.
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> Davis pulled the trigger and the hammer fell on an empty round.
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> “My very first thought - after I realized it was a revolver - was I was terrified. Absolutely terrified,” Jessop testified. “I recall thinking I wasn’t going to see my wife again. I wasn’t going to see my mom, my brothers or my sisters, or my co-workers or my dogs. I was terrified.”
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> Jessop moved his face away from the threat as fast as he could.
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> “I did hear the click,” he said. “I remember stopping. I was actually hoping it was just a joke … I remember thinking why would you do that to an officer.”
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> And then he saw Davis’ head readjust.
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> “I remember thinking the reason he’s readjusting his head is he’s going to shoot again,” Jessop said.
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> He ran toward the back of Davis’ vehicle, while drawing his Glock 22.
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> He heard a gunshot.
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> “My next thought was I had to defend myself and eliminate the threat to me,” Jessop said. “I don’t recall drawing my weapon. I do remember my first shot. I was conscious that I was shooting my gun.”
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> Jessop thought he’d fired seven or eight rounds. It turned out he’d fired 14.
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> Six bullets hit Davis’ vehicle, including the one that drove through the passenger and driver’s seats and into Davis’ back.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/9 "2010-05-03T19:08:26Z")

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Wow, the cop killed him through the rear window of the vehicle.

hi5!

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/10 "2010-05-03T19:08:33Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Is there a whole news story to go with this?

On the tab right above the video marked “story”.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/11 "2010-05-03T19:12:01Z")

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Wow, the usual suspects are slow today. I fully expected to hear the “Ohhhh, but the guy was driving away! He was no longer a threat! This cop is a murderer!” bullshit by now.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/12 "2010-05-03T19:13:28Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> Wow, the usual suspects are slow today. I fully expected to hear the “Ohhhh, but the guy was driving away! He was no longer a threat! This cop is a murderer!” bullshit by now.

Well, on youtube perhaps, but on the Dope?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/13 "2010-05-03T19:36:57Z")

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By the way, I notice a 6 person jury had to rule on this situation. Is this common? Obviously, they unanimously agreed that shooting back was the right move.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/14 "2010-05-03T19:45:17Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> Wow, the usual suspects are slow today. I fully expected to hear the “Ohhhh, but the guy was driving away! He was no longer a threat! This cop is a murderer!” bullshit by now.

When I started the thread, I kind of expected that reaction from some of the Dopers. There isn’t any ambiguity in my mind on this one. You use deadly force against an officer in order to evade arrest you’re going to get it back.

After watching it again, I couldn’t help but laugh when the officer is breathlessly calling in the situation on the radio (and at this point he doesn’t know the fate of the driver) after emptying his pistol and as you follow the taillights of the fleeing vehicle then you see that white, electric “pop” and hear the vehicle crash and the officer’s all “…and suspect just crashed into a utility pole…”

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/15 "2010-05-03T19:47:21Z")

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That is one lucky cop. If that hadn’t been an empty round in the first chamber, he’d be dead now.

> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> Wow, the usual suspects are slow today. I fully expected to hear the “Ohhhh, but the guy was driving away! He was no longer a threat! This cop is a murderer!” bullshit by now.

It’s always amusing when, in the absence of “usual suspects,” someone feels the need to lament the absence of “usual suspects.”

I guess you’re just a “usual suspect” of a different sort.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/16 "2010-05-03T19:48:39Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> After watching it again, I couldn’t help but laugh when the officer is breathlessly calling in the situation on the radio (and at this point he doesn’t know the fate of the driver) after emptying his pistol and as you follow the taillights of the fleeing vehicle then you see that white, electric “pop” and hear the vehicle crash and the officer’s all “…and suspect just crashed into a utility pole…”

I fail to see the humor. I’m sure the officer was terrified.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/17 "2010-05-03T19:54:20Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I fail to see the humor. I’m sure the officer was terrified.

I’m sure he was, as anyone would have been. I didn’t mean “har-har” slap a knee laughter…more of a wry grin and chuckle sort…

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/18 "2010-05-03T20:01:03Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> Wow, the usual suspects are slow today. I fully expected to hear the “Ohhhh, but the guy was driving away! He was no longer a threat! This cop is a murderer!” bullshit by now.

I think if you fire upon an officer you can pretty much expect to be dead. I’m not happy that the man died, I don’t think it’s cause for celebration or anything, but I don’t doubt for a second the officer did the right thing.

I just watched the video, and that was crazy. It just came out of nowhere. It’s amazing reading the officer’s account of what happened and then watching it happen – so many thoughts and decisions to make in just seconds.

I feel bad for the cop though. I essentially agree with **Mahaloth** –the cop was terrified and he killed someone in self-defense, and no matter how justified that killing, it’s probably going to stay with him for a long time. I doubt he feels much like celebrating.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/19 "2010-05-03T20:24:10Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> I think if you fire upon an officer you can pretty much expect to be dead. I’m not happy that the man died, I don’t think it’s cause for celebration or anything, but I don’t doubt for a second the officer did the right thing.
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> I just watched the video, and that was crazy. It just came out of nowhere. It’s amazing reading the officer’s account of what happened and then watching it happen – so many thoughts and decisions to make in just seconds.
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> I feel bad for the cop though. I essentially agree with **Mahaloth** –the cop was terrified and he killed someone in self-defense, and no matter how justified that killing, it’s probably going to stay with him for a long time. I doubt he feels much like celebrating.

Right, I mean, if a guy is drunk with a gun and shoots an officer(tries to, anyway), this man is clearly a danger to society.

You can really see the shock and terror on the cops face in the other shooting I posted a video to. One officer keeps saying to him, “Are you OK?”

The officer says, “I don’t know.”

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-ass-cop-shooting-video/538191/20 "2010-05-03T20:39:09Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Right, I mean, if a guy is drunk with a gun and shoots an officer(tries to, anyway), this man is clearly a danger to society.
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> You can really see the shock and terror on the cops face in the other shooting I posted a video to. One officer keeps saying to him, “Are you OK?”
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> The officer says, “I don’t know.”

Ok, that one actually made me tear up a little bit.

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