# Crazy idiot derails train in LA for crazy idiot conspiracy "reasons"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 2, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846 "2020-04-02T00:21:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/21 "2020-04-02T03:30:18Z")

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I knew it wouldn’t be long before this thread went off the rails.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/22 "2020-04-02T03:50:18Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> No. He’s a fucking idiot and a lunatic.

He’s crazy, but that’s how it goes. Millions of people living as foes.

But maybe it’s not too late, to learn how to love and forget how to hate.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/23 "2020-04-02T04:23:48Z")

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So many Train-wrecks, so few Train Junkyards.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/24 "2020-04-02T04:33:54Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> He’s crazy, but that’s how it goes. Millions of people living as foes.
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> But maybe it’s not too late, to learn how to love and forget how to hate.

Maybe but I’m in no rush.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/25 "2020-04-02T04:39:59Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> He’s crazy, but that’s how it goes. Millions of people living as foes.
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> But maybe it’s not too late, to learn how to love and forget how to hate.

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Maybe but I’m in no rush.

Not Rush. Ozzy. 😃

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/26 "2020-04-02T04:43:13Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Frail? Nah, I think he’s loco. And this is th end of the line for his career. I hope the cop who caught him used a roundhouse.

But he must have had some reason for doing this, loco though it was. It was his loco motive.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/27 "2020-04-02T04:54:47Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Not Rush. Ozzy. 😃

:smack:

I realized that about 10 minutes into a phone conversation. I’ve been fielding a lot of calls this evening from friends, co-workers and union brothers & sisters; we’re all checking up on each other and checking in.

Mea culpa; no idea why I heard that in Geddy’s voice.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/28 "2020-04-02T05:01:29Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Maybe but I’m in no rush.

Right. I don’t remember any train in that movie.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/29 "2020-04-02T09:16:15Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> “Eduardo Moreno, 44, was charged with one count of train wrecking.”

Shouldn’t this thread have been put in the “The Trump Administration: a trainwreck in the making” thread? 😃

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/30 "2020-04-02T09:31:20Z")

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> [@guizot](#):
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> This act of stupidity was so ineffectual and moronic that it took a whole day for anyone to realize that it was deliberate. He had to _ **tell** _ them what he was trying to do so that they would even know he was committing a crime.

Let’s face it - doing that stunt on _April 1_ is a sure-fire way to get people to dismiss it as a prank story.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/31 "2020-04-02T11:55:06Z")

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[What was Eduardo smoking?](https://www.leafly.com/strains/trainwreck)

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/32 "2020-04-02T12:35:50Z")

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Yeah the guy is nuts. But… What? What was he trying to accomplish? What is his message? What is the conspiracy that he thinks he was exposing?

He was suspicious about the Hospital ship Mercy? Um… OK. Suspicious of what?

In a word - Huh?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/33 "2020-04-02T12:40:38Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Yeah the guy is nuts. But… What? What was he trying to accomplish? What is his message? What is the conspiracy that he thinks he was exposing?
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> He was suspicious about the Hospital ship Mercy? Um… OK. Suspicious of what?
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> In a word - Huh?

Maybe he was perplexed by the letters _USNS_ in front of the ship’s name. Now me, I just see a large white ship with a great big red cross on it and I automatically think…well, something very far off of what caused that idiot to blow his stack.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/34 "2020-04-02T12:58:41Z")

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It kind of reminds me of what a lot of us did as kids. We’d build ramps and try to launch our bikes off them, with predictably understated results.

Difference is, most of us learned from that experience before we hit puberty.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/35 "2020-04-02T13:15:56Z")

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If I was that guy, I’d spend every day in jail just playing for someone to ask me, “What are you in for?”.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/36 "2020-04-02T13:21:26Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> If I was that guy, I’d spend every day in jail just playing for someone to ask me, “What are you in for?”.

I think that everyone who gets charged with a crime where it is at all relevant should have “creating a public nuisance” added to the charges, just in case the group W guys are a bit leery of what you are in for.

And I think in this case it would be a valid charge for Eduardo (assuming that that offense is on the books in California).

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/37 "2020-04-02T13:22:37Z")

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Train wrecking has to be the best charge since the guy wearing brown paper pants got charged with rustlin’.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/38 "2020-04-02T15:55:31Z")

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[This video](https://youtu.be/taAxIWL_Vak) gives a clear view of how far he got to the hospital ship. Skip to 0:50 to see the wide view showing the position relative to the ship.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/39 "2020-04-02T15:55:59Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Yeah the guy is nuts. But… What? What was he trying to accomplish? What is his message? What is the conspiracy that he thinks he was exposing?

No clue. But it struck me as the kind of thing you might see in a thriller movie, where Our Hero has to has to do something dramatic to get people’s attention.

And it sounded to me like this guy, under the influence of some mental illness or delusion, thought he was in that kind of a situation somehow.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/40 "2020-04-02T17:10:17Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> [This video](https://youtu.be/taAxIWL_Vak) gives a clear view of how far he got to the hospital ship. Skip to 0:50 to see the wide view showing the position relative to the ship.

So [this appears to be the spot.](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Port+of+Los+Angeles/@33.7494372,-118.2797663,428m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80dd37ae652ef523:0xd88f6472b07283a5!8m2!3d33.7365401!4d-118.264982?hl=en) He managed to get the locomotive 300 feet past the end of the line. That’s pretty impressive, but he still had another 900 feet to go before he could have hoped to make contact with the ship.

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