# Crazy idiot derails train in LA for crazy idiot conspiracy "reasons" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 2, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846 "2020-04-02T00:21:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/86 "2020-04-05T20:02:32Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > That would be Putin. They don’t even have to scrap the signs; they can just print “utin” stickers to cover up the “ence”. The trick is just convincing Evangelicals that Putin is name-checked somewhere in Revelations… ‘Trump’ and ‘Putin’ are intertwined in several of the scariest Bible verses, e.g.: > [@Genesis Chapter 19 verse 24](#): > > **T** hen the lord **R** ained **U\*\*\*\*P** on sodo **M** and **U\*\*\*\*P** on gomorrah brims **T** one and f **I** re from the lord out of heave **N** ; > [@The Apocalypse of St. John the Apostle Chapter 6 verse 8](#): > > and i looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and hell followed wi **T** h him. and **P** owe **R** was given **U** nto the **M** over the fo **U** rth **P** art of the earth, **T** o kill w **I** th sword, and with hu **N** ger, and with Death … ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/87 "2020-04-05T20:10:50Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > ‘Trump’ and ‘Putin’ are intertwined in several of the scariest Bible verses, e.g.: Works for me. As much as an other Bible interpretation anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/88 "2020-04-06T00:57:52Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > That would be Putin. They don’t even have to scrap the signs; they can just print “utin” stickers to cover up the “ence”. The trick is just convincing Evangelicals that Putin is name-checked somewhere in Revelations… > > Stranger That’s crazy talk. Why would Putin take a demotion? ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/89 "2020-04-06T03:16:58Z")
Well, even if Eduardo Moreno couldn’t, I think you should all take a bow… ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/90 "2020-04-06T03:28:49Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > That’s crazy talk. Why would Putin take a demotion? [He’s looking for a new job soon](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-putin-rule-constitution-idUSKCN1IQ2H9). Plus, it’s is easier to stick his hand up Trump’s ass when he’s just a few doors down. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/91 "2020-04-06T17:54:34Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > [He’s looking for a new job soon](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-putin-rule-constitution-idUSKCN1IQ2H9). That article is a couple years old. [Here’s the current state of affairs.](https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-putin-signs-off-constitutional-changes-extend-power/30487735.html) Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![MarMac83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@MarMac83](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MarMac83)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/92 "2020-04-06T19:24:30Z")
I’ve heard of jumping the shark, but jumping the train??? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/93 "2020-04-06T21:05:44Z")
Man did not do his homework. ISTM trains vs. naval ships, there have been a number of trains taken out by naval gunfire and demo teams but I can’t find a record of a train taking out a significant vessel. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/94 "2020-04-06T21:13:57Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Man did not do his homework. ISTM trains vs. naval ships, there have been a number of trains taken out by naval gunfire and demo teams but I can’t find a record of a train taking out a significant vessel. The received wisdom of _Little Giants_ explains it. > [@Danny O'Shea](#): > > When we were kids. We used to race our bikes down Cherry Hill every day after school. We raced every day and he always beat me, but one time, one time I beat him. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/95 "2020-04-07T00:23:54Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Yes it is. No, it is in no way similar. The protesters in the '60s were trying to stop the needless deaths of tens of thousands of American lives (not to mention those of the Vietnamese, Lao and Cambodians, in much greater number). Almost all the right-wing stochastic terrorism works in the opposite direction. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/96 "2020-04-07T00:57:21Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Man did not do his homework. ISTM trains vs. naval ships, there have been a number of trains taken out by naval gunfire and demo teams but I can’t find a record of a train taking out a significant vessel. Well, there was the Prussian Incursion of 1807… [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0l5jXbGvno](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0l5jXbGvno) ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/97 "2020-04-07T15:09:25Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > That’s crazy talk. Why would Putin take a demotion? It worked for Cheney. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/98 "2020-04-07T16:17:08Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Man did not do his homework. ISTM trains vs. naval ships, there have been a number of trains taken out by naval gunfire and demo teams but I can’t find a record of a train taking out a significant vessel. Who needs a gun? USS [_Barb_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Barb_(SS-220)#/media/File:USS_Barb_crew_1945_i03570.jpg) wrecked a train by landing a party that laid a charge on the tracks. Now _that’s_ dirty pool. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/99 "2020-04-08T00:39:03Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > No, it is in no way similar. The protesters in the '60s were trying to stop the needless deaths of tens of thousands of American lives (not to mention those of the Vietnamese, Lao and Cambodians, in much greater number). Almost all the right-wing stochastic terrorism works in the opposite direction. [sarcasm]“How many children died today because you sat on your rich privileged American ass and did nothing? Murderer.”[/sarcasm] ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/100 "2020-04-08T00:45:05Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > [sarcasm]“How many children died today because you sat on your rich privileged American ass and did nothing? Murderer.”[/sarcasm] Do you have an actual point to make or are you just enjoying the fishing today? Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/101 "2020-04-08T01:48:02Z")
Sorry, I’m turning into a cranky old bastard as I get older and sicker. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846/102 "2020-04-08T12:18:01Z")
There remains a difference between things that people disagree with and things that are factually false. I can be for people saying things I disagree with while against putting out false information. This is a common trick, treating all facts as opinion, so that lyubf is merely an alternative fact. It does not work. Someone pushing conspiracy theories is at best factually mistaken. But, in the case of Fox News, they are lying to manipulate these people. They actively create more cranks and get them to believe what they want. That is why they are responsible. Not because they disagree with my opinions. They are lying. And we humans have accepted that as a moral wrong for at least a few millennia. Do you disagree that lying is wrong? That the lia is responsible if others believe them? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-idiot-derails-train-in-la-for-crazy-idiot-conspiracy-reasons/850846.md?page=4)