# Crazy Trump supporters

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [September 30, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297 "2024-09-30T18:59:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/121 "2024-10-09T02:04:17Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> he probably does believe that the immigrant invasion in polluting our blood, [snip], and that only by putting billionaire technocrats like him in charge can it be saved.

Free movement for rich people, serfdom for everyone else! 🙄

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/122 "2024-10-09T13:16:49Z")

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From [another thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/2657), quoting Florida meteorologist John Morales. He doesn’t say it openly but one can pretty much figure out who are the people doing that:

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> “Something’s shifted,” he wrote. “And it’s not just the climate.” He noted that with Helene on the way, “I did what I’ve done during my entire 40 year career—I tried to warn people. Except that the warning was not well received by everyone. A person accused me of being a ‘climate militant,’ a suggestion that I’m embellishing extreme weather threats to drive an agenda. Another simply said that my predictions were ‘an exaggeration.’
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> “But it wasn’t an exaggeration,” he wrote.
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> “For decades I had felt in control. Not in control of the weather, of course. But in control of the message that, if my audience was prepared and well informed, I could confidently guide them through any weather threat, and we’d all make it through safely…

But “of course” that means he admits they are all about “controlling” both the weather and you, they will respond.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/123 "2024-10-09T13:29:39Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [@Spoons](#):
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> > If Musk thinks he will be rewarded by Trump, if Trump is elected;
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> Musk wants trump to put his seal of approval on electric cars, which trump has been willing to do. But the hatred of EVs seems baked in to the MAGA mindset, for some weird reason.

My boss loves both trump and musk. He loves his cyber truck, loves EV cars too. His only complaint is that “we” are not acknowledging the damage that mining for batteries does to the ecosystem like we do with the oil industry.

I think musk just wants to be president. Or maybe he is secretly planning to get back at trump for saying nasty things about him on twitter. Did ya’ll see the look on his face when he greeted trump at that rally? Spooky.

> <https://x.com/ChicagoTrashBoy/status/1842948521944866821>

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/124 "2024-10-09T13:49:53Z")

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Already seen with Helene and due to be amplified with Milton:

Trumpites before storm impacts: “Don’t believe climate change alarmism. This stuff just happens.”

Trumpites after storms hit: “The government is doing this, with chemtrails and HAARP!!!”

\*Twitter is a repository of such craziness.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/125 "2024-10-14T19:36:28Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Trumpites after storms hit: “The government is doing this, with chemtrails and HAARP!!!”

> **[FEMA offices forced to halt Hurricane Helene operations due to threats, militias](https://www.salon.com/2024/10/14/fema-offices-forced-to-halt-hurricane-helene-operations-due-to-threats-militias/)**
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> Reports of threats and, in one case, an armed militia, have delayed disaster recovery

_FEMA has been forced to temporarily stop disaster recovery efforts in several areas suffering the impacts of Hurricane Helene. Those pauses came from threats on workers and, in one case, the reported presence of an armed militia._

_The sheriff of Ashe County in northwestern North Carolina [shared via Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/ashesheriff/posts/pfbid02n9yNNGXAh7K4hTXVTyxFGL1L1KaNheoTuaoSghw4ksAAFREgNEe9fUemsM6YSCmbl) that FEMA offices had paused operations in the county after facing unspecified threats in the state… Those operations have since restarted. FEMA operations in Rutherford County near Asheville were paused this weekend due to reports of “armed militia” in the area. [The Washington Post reports](https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2024/10/13/federal-officials-nc-temporarily-relocated-amid-report-armed-militia-email-shows/)that the concerns about the militia were shared via email and the outlet confirmed that the emails were legitimate through conversations with federal officials._

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/126 "2024-10-24T14:16:10Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Musk may be aware that oligarchs don’t have immunity from the whims of dictators. But perhaps he really is arrogant enough to believe that he can **control the dictator**. (Granted, Trump is famously easy to manipulate.)

trump _is_ famously easy to manipulate, but impossible to control.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/127 "2024-10-24T19:31:54Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> trump _is_ famously easy to manipulate, but impossible to control.

Yeah. Partly because he always reverts to form, partly because of his incompetence and irrationality, and partly because as soon as you leave his side somebody _else_ will be manipulating him.

For Putin at least it makes some sense to push Trump into office as a hand grenade thrown into the middle of American governance; he can’t be sure _exactly_ what Trump will do, but he can certainly rely on Trump to do plenty of damage. But if Musk expects to get any specific thing out of Trump he’s deluding himself, even ignoring that Trump is known for turning on people.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/128 "2024-10-24T19:52:05Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> But if Musk expects to get any specific thing out of Trump he’s deluding himself, even ignoring that Trump is known for turning on people.

One, Elon has enough of his own ego problems that assuming he’s _different_ from all the others who have been burned by expectations of Trump loyalty is very possible.

Second, Trump so far has largely been about deregulation, and nerfing any government oversight for things like safety or unions, which should be helpful for Elon overall.

And they (theoretically) hate the same sort of people.

So, given that the support levels Elon have offered is chump change for him, and his buying of Xitter for being mean to him shows just how much he wants the public adulation that Trump can share… probably a win-win-win for Elon’s POV.

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/129 "2024-10-24T21:47:41Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Some of these people, I swear, they just want the 1950s back.

A lot of them want the 1850s back.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/130 "2024-10-24T21:53:36Z")

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> [@Yookeroo](#):
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> A lot of them want the 1850s back.

I wish I could say you’re exaggerating, but even Trump seems to want to travel back in time. See this:

> **[Trump says Civil War ‘could have been negotiated’ | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/06/politics/trump-civil-war-negotiated/index.html)**
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> Former President Donald Trump on Saturday suggested the Civil War could have been avoided through “negotiation,” arguing that the fight to end slavery in the US was ultimately unnecessary and that Abraham Lincoln should have done more to avoid...

And repeated it more recently:

> **[Trump Suggests Abraham Lincoln Should’ve Let the South Keep a Little Slavery](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/trump-suggests-abraham-lincoln-shouldve-let-the-south-keep-a-little-slavery)**
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> He answered a 10-year-old’s question about his favorite president by saying Lincoln should have “settled” the Civil War.

Of course you have crazy supporters when they are supporting a crazy person.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/131 "2024-10-25T14:15:44Z")

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Just a _little_ slavery. A smidgeon.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/132 "2024-10-25T14:30:44Z")

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A soupçon of servitude.

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/133 "2024-10-25T14:57:16Z")

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a humble bit of human bondage.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/134 "2024-10-25T16:17:52Z")

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\<general Turgidson\>  
I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed.

But I do say no more than 10-20 million people living out their lives in constant misery, tops - depending on the breaks.  
\</general Turgidson\>

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/135 "2024-10-27T01:26:49Z")

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Between (YouTube) channels like [**The Good Liars**](https://www.youtube.com/@TheGoodLiars) and [**(The Daily Show’s) Jordan Klepper**](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jordan+klepper+trump+rallyl), you’d think they’d eventually run out of MAGAs willing to showcase their own ignorance and insanity.

[For the same reason that Sacha Baron Cohen’s [**“Borat”**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borat) gig _had to_ have a sell-by date: word eventually gets out]

But no. Not yet.

I suspect there are other similar channels, but for any who aren’t already acquainted, just watch a couple videos from each of these channels (or the others), and spend the next few days thinking to yourself … how did it all get so bad?

These people also remind me of something I’ve long said: Trump really owes his Presidency, in no small part, to the religious right. They’re the only ones in this country capable of totally ignoring endless amounts of profoundly persuasive evidence, and STILL devoting their lives to The Greatest Story Ever Told – a mediocre work of Bronze/Iron Age fiction.

Their collective credulity is only matched by Trump’s bottomless depravity, crassness, cynicism, and vulgarity.

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**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-trump-supporters/1008297/136 "2024-11-06T13:18:27Z")

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A book I managed to read 4 years ago. I know all I need to know about MAGA folk, so not reading another book on them.

> **[The Great Revolt: Great Fiction](https://esapolitics.blogspot.com/2020/06/the-great-revolt-great-fiction.html)**
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> I was at the book store, where I am now only stopping by every two weeks. Not that it has many clients. I was sick of staring at e-books, so...

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