# Crazy Woman accosts my son and me in a bar **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 13, 2014, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648 "2014-01-13T10:45:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/61 "2014-01-14T01:33:48Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Pardon the hijack, but is this a common thing over there? Do the large breweries run lots of pubs? Speaking about New Zealand, rather than the UK… (my father managed a small country pub there) It’s rare for the brewery to “run” a pub (as in, own and pay the manager) What is common however is for bars to be “affiliated” to a particular brewery. What this normally means is that the brewery will take up some / most / all of the cost for branding and infrastructure. (the signs outside, bar towels, tables, umbrellas, the tanks for the beer, beer lines, the bar taps etc) The payback is that the bar only stocks that breweries’ product. An independent pub will often have a wider range of brews - which where we were, meant a lot. The split between the major product of two different breweries was about 50 / 50 ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/62 "2014-01-14T01:54:49Z")
“Excuse me, but I don’t recall asking for your opinions. Kindly keep them to yourself until they are solicited. Doubly so when visiting a foreign shore. Good day Madam!” “I said, Good Day!” 😃 Seriously, she’s a whack job, clearly. An opinionated busybody, who thinks she knows how everyone else ought to behave. Insufferable! Sorry this happened to you and your son, please don’t let it bother you too terribly. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/63 "2014-01-14T03:22:33Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Don’t undersell it - America is a country that BANNED ALL ALCOHOL less than 100 years ago. We’re still recovering. > . Ah yes, the recovering non-alcoholic. That explains a lot about our culture. Can I claim “band name” from myself? RN’s, here to serve your medical needs through music. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/64 "2014-01-14T03:52:28Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > “Excuse me, but I don’t recall asking for your opinions. Kindly keep them to yourself until they are solicited. Doubly so when visiting a foreign shore. Good day Madam!” > > “I said, Good Day!” For those in the UK who don’t get this it’s from a TV show called “That 70’s Show”. One of the characters is a foreigner who dismisses people by saying: [“I said good day!”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuNvxH5kSKU) ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/65 "2014-01-14T06:34:27Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > On behalf of Americans I apologize. [/SIZE] Don’t apologize for \*this \*American. It’s extremely rude, IMHO. Also, have we determined that the woman was a Yank? ---
**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/66 "2014-01-14T07:11:48Z")
Are there still States with no provision in law for a kid to see a bartender? AFAIK, the difference is food - if a large enough % of your gross is from food, you are a restaurant and open to all; if all you serve is alcohol, you are probably a 21+ joint. Near Pier 39 if SF is a bar with a small stage and in the corner, a long, dark bar with something like 50 beers on tap (and smoking was permitted in 1999). Kids are welcome in the front area, not in the beer hall. Don’t know how that configuration squares with the law - is it required? Could they offer food in the beer hall and make it a kid-open restaurant? Anyway, my 12 yr old niece and her 14 yr old brother got to see what a dive looked like, even if they couldn’t enter. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/67 "2014-01-14T07:22:35Z")
> [@usedtobe](#): > > Are there still States with no provision in law for a kid to see a bartender? > > AFAIK, the difference is food - if a large enough % of your gross is from food, you are a restaurant and open to all; if all you serve is alcohol, you are probably a 21+ joint. > > Near Pier 39 if SF is a bar with a small stage and in the corner, a long, dark bar with something like **50 beers on tap** (and smoking was permitted in 1999). Kids are welcome in the front area, not in the beer hall. Don’t know how that configuration squares with the law - is it required? Could they offer food in the beer hall and make it a kid-open restaurant? > > Anyway, my 12 yr old niece and her 14 yr old brother got to see what a dive looked like, even if they couldn’t enter. Literally? I can’t imagine having that many taps in one bar - and having them all hooked up behind must be a nightmare… Even something like this is only 14… [Taps Beer Bar, Kuala Lumpur - Restaurant Reviews, Phone Number & Photos - Tripadvisor](http://www.tripadvisor.com.sg/Restaurant_Review-g298570-d2715384-Reviews-Taps_Beer_Bar-Kuala_Lumpur_Wilayah_Persekutuan.html) And in this setup it seems the accommodate 18 beers on tap… [http://www.lancerbeersystems.com/case-study/ausgrid-stadium-formerly-energy-australia-stadium](http://www.lancerbeersystems.com/case-study/ausgrid-stadium-formerly-energy-australia-stadium) ---
**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/68 "2014-01-14T08:39:05Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > Literally? > > I can’t imagine having that many taps in one bar - and having them all hooked up behind must be a nightmare… Well this [article](http://www.realbeer.com/news/articles/news-000246.php) claims 224 taps all with different beers at the Taco Mac in Cumming, Georgia. Same article says that the Yardhouse in Long Beach has 250 taps but only 180 different beers. I seem to recall that the Goat’s Hill Tavern in Costa Mesa had the world record at one point but currently has 140+ beers on tap. I’ve actually stood in the keg room and yeah, it is a marvel to behold. ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/69 "2014-01-14T09:06:07Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > I’ve heard good things about chlorophyl for this. > > (Caution: chlorophyl , not chloroform) Sorry, I haven’t had my coffee yet…but I have no idea what this means…? ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/70 "2014-01-14T09:20:15Z")
So is a pub a restaurant that also serves alcohol, or is it a bar that also serves food? I’d be rather shocked to see anyone underage in the latter. I’ve never seen a bar without a ‘no one under 21 allowed’ sign, hell even a lot of restaurants don’t let kids in their bar area. Of course, I only go to gay bars so seeing a kid would especially be really, really strange. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/71 "2014-01-14T10:03:54Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > Sorry, I haven’t had my coffee yet…but I have no idea what this means…? [fights dragon breath](http://allisonluxenberg.com/chlorophyll-1-dog-breath-0/) ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/72 "2014-01-14T12:30:04Z")
> [@Blackberry](#): > > At my daughter’s school they can’t even bring Tylenol for the school nurse to hold onto and administer to them as needed, without bringing in a form filled out by a doctor. It’s ridiculous. Wow. I had no idea. As the father of a three-year-old, I need to learn about crap like this. So this is how you teach young people to use their brains and make decisions. It reminds me of a fascinating study a few years ago which showed that traffic accidents _increase_ when you add more warning signs and instructional signs along roads. People get lulled into a mindset of “Well, no sign is telling me I _can’t_, so…” ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/73 "2014-01-14T13:53:02Z")
In some states and counties in the U.S., bars must serve food, or even must have a certain percentage of revenue from food. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/74 "2014-01-14T13:55:05Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Wow. I had no idea. As the father of a three-year-old, I need to learn about crap like this. Yep. Many schools have these dumb zero-tolerance rules, which make them feel like they’re actually accomplishing something to fight drug use. The news is full of horror stories about kids getting expelled over an aspirin or something. These are the people who are teaching our kids. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/75 "2014-01-14T13:59:26Z")
> [@Lazlo Hapsburg](#): > > I’ve heard that English pubs almost always serves beer at room temperature I’m an American who has never been to England but I know that’s not true. They serve some ales at a warmer temp than a lager, but still far colder than room temperature. What Americans do is drink alot of beers ice-cold, which is great for an awful, mass-produced, flavorless beer like some of our more popular ones. They even promote that in their ads. A good lager will taste better when it’s cold, but not on the verge of frozen. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/76 "2014-01-14T14:02:17Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Not true. Several states allow kids in bars with their parents. In my state, there are technically no bars, just restaurants with a bar (the thing you sit at with taps) inside. All must serve food. Many allow kids, at least at certain times of day. > [@](#): > > I hate when parents take their kids to adult places just because they can. Places of gambling, bars, R-rated movies, etc… It’s not appropriate! Some bars or bar/restaurants are perfectly fine for kids. At least in my state. ---
**Author:** ![Becky2844](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Becky2844](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky2844)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/77 "2014-01-14T16:00:00Z")
You should have told her, “Lady, you’re not in Kansas anymore.” ---
**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/78 "2014-01-14T16:35:47Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > Most Sundays, the tax deduction - he’s 4yrs old - and I… > So, tell me oh oracle of wisdom. Is this a case of crazies gonna crazy, or does Crazy Woman have a point? Confronting you regarding the issue of alcohol was definitely crazy. On the other hand, if someone confronted you about the wrongness of referring to your child as “the tax deduction”, they would have a point. Just IMHO, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/79 "2014-01-14T16:46:28Z")
Your opinion might be humble, but it’s clearly missing a sense of humor. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648/80 "2014-01-14T17:06:01Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > Don’t apologize for \*this \*American. It’s extremely rude, IMHO. > > Also, have we determined that the woman was a Yank? What if she was… Canadian? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crazy-woman-accosts-my-son-and-me-in-a-bar/678648.md?page=5)