# Create your own Law & Order spinoff

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**Created:** [April 2, 2020, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871 "2020-04-02T10:37:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/1 "2020-04-02T10:37:52Z")

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Let’s see, we’ve got _Law & Order_, _Law & Order: Special Victims Unit_, _Law & Order: Criminal Intent_, _Law & Order: Trial by Jury_, _Law & Order: LA_, _Law & Order: True Crime_, and now possibly a _Law & Order: Hate Crimes_. Add to this _Law & Order: UK_ and three foreign-language adaptations (in French and Russian), plus six PC video games. Clearly there is not enough _Law & Order_ in the universe.

What further _Law & Order_ spinoffs would you like to see? All suggestions are welcome, be they serious or satirical. What new locations, types of crime, or aspects of the justice system are ripe for [Wolfian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Wolf) dramatization? Share your new series’s title and, if you’re up to it, a short synopsis and maybe some suggestions for the cast.

But whatever you do, don’t threadshit by saying that the series has worn out its welcome. You can _never_ have enough _Law & Order_.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/2 "2020-04-02T10:47:59Z")

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I enjoy Law and Order a lot (including the computer games.) It’s a clever structure and they use good writers.  
You don’t need a lot of car chases and shoot-outs to make quality drama.

Now I admit my version is going to be puzzling to Americans. But anyone in the UK will recognise the stereotype. 😉

Picture a small town in the North of England about 60 years ago.  
There are cobbled hilly streets, the stone doorsteps are whitewashed and the police travel by bicycle.  
Here is an advert (directed by Ridley Scott of ‘Blade Runner’, ‘Gladiator’ and ‘Alien’ fame 😃 ), showing exactly what I mean.

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**Author:** ![PlaceboTarget](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/placebotarget/32/1073_2.png) [@PlaceboTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlaceboTarget)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/3 "2020-04-02T10:59:55Z")

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I would probably enjoy _Law & Order : White-Collar Crimes_, as well as _Law and Order : White-Collar Crimes International_.

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/4 "2020-04-02T11:09:06Z")

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> [@PlaceboTarget](#):
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> I would probably enjoy _Law & Order : White-Collar Crimes_.

Didn’t Michael Moore do a quick spoof of this idea in one of his films? 🙂

But seriously, covering white-collar crimes would be hard to keep consistently interesting. (No sex, no violence, lots of exposition and explanation often necessary.) Of course, many filmmakers have managed to pull it off for individual feature films, so maybe there is something to your idea.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/5 "2020-04-02T11:19:31Z")

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_Law & Order: PBS_. Tales of the newly formed Panic Buying Squad as they try to ensure the availability of toilet paper. Gives a fresh, new meaning to the term general doodies.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/6 "2020-04-02T12:37:27Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> Picture a small town in the North of England about 60 years ago.  
> There are cobbled hilly streets, the stone doorsteps are whitewashed and the police travel by bicycle.  
> Here is an advert (directed by Ridley Scott of ‘Blade Runner’, ‘Gladiator’ and ‘Alien’ fame 😃 ), showing exactly what I mean.

Isn’t that just _Midsomer Murders?_

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/7 "2020-04-02T12:57:40Z")

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_Law & Order: The Munch Files_.

Sgt. John Munch goes renegade and starts finding a massive, interlinked set of conspiracies that tie every major event of the last 200 years together. Each episode is based on proving that an historical event is tied into this, giving yet another hint as to the people behind it. Plus aliens.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/8 "2020-04-02T13:02:44Z")

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_Law and Order: Internal Affairs_

Cops investigating cops!

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/9 "2020-04-02T13:11:08Z")

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Law & Order: Quarantine Compliance.

Cops in PPE go around with a measuring tape and bust people who are closer than 6’. They will also chase down anyone who coughs without covering their mouth. I’m trying to figure out a way for them to aggressively take the temperature from some low-life every episode.

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/10 "2020-04-02T14:01:29Z")

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I don’t know what you’d call it, but _L&O: Small Town_. I realize that Dick Wolf probably just doesn’t know a lot about small towns, so he has taken this concept the reality show direction with _Cold Justice_, a show which was pretty interesting the first season when they were actually solving cases, but they have, it seems, run out of cold cases that a rogue team can solve in a week.

And yes, I realize this is sort of what _Criminal Minds_ did, except they investigated some bizarre serial killer every week.

I’d like to see “ripped from the headlines” fictionalized episodes of small town crimes with small town characters every week, in towns that reflected the actual environment where they occurred, instead of transplanting the crime to NYC every week.

If it requires a contrivance like a fictionalized character modeled on the former DA in _Cold Justice_, who farms herself out helping solve difficult crimes, just so there was a consistent character for the audience to identify with, do that. Or you could even contrive a private detective who serves, say a 4-state area such as Ohio-Kentucky-Indiana-Illinois. You’d get a huge mix of different kinds of people and settings there-- KY is almost the south, IN is two different places depending on whether you are north or south, and then, Indianapolis is a unique city, because it is so centrally located, it hosts a huge variety of conferences and symposia. Yearly, it hosts a table-top gaming convention, it has hosted Orthodox Jews, The National Federation of the Blind, and then there is the Indy 500 every year. IL gives you the once-a-season Chicago story, and rural Illinois is almost the south as well. Ohio has several big cities, and between IN & Ohio, there are three or four major theme parks, and one in KY as well.

Then, of course, if she were making headlines, she might occasionally get invited somewhere else. It’s TV. You could work in a small town anywhere that way.

I’d prefer they stuck to modeling on recent cases, but the occasional cold case is nice. L&O: TOS did that.

I might be biased, because I’m originally from Manhattan, and I find big cities bright, open, and safe, and small town suspicious and creepy, but that’s my take.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/11 "2020-04-02T14:51:51Z")

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_Law & Order: Ombudsman_

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/12 "2020-04-02T15:13:37Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> _Law & Order: The Munch Files_.
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> Sgt. John Munch goes renegade and starts finding a massive, interlinked set of conspiracies that tie every major event of the last 200 years together. Each episode is based on proving that an historical event is tied into this, giving yet another hint as to the people behind it. Plus aliens.

I bet Richard Belzer would go for it (he’s a real-life conspiracy nut).

They could resurrect Gillian Anderson as his partner.

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**Author:** ![Sveltington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@Sveltington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sveltington)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/13 "2020-04-02T15:39:46Z")

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Lennie Briscoe (please presume still alive and doing well) retires and on his last day, goes to say goodbye to Dr Rodgers. They finally acknowlege their love for each other. He persuades her to retire early and go off with him to a little cabin in ??? (dunno some rural place.) The first episode involves this cute little girl who comes to visit asking the former NYC Det to find her lost dog. After much investigation Lennie and Rogers do find the dog; standing guard over the dead body of the dogs owner; the little girls father!  
Was he pushed?  
Did he jump?  
Why didn’t the little girl mention her father was ALSO missing???

Stay tuned for the next episode of . . .Law & Order: The Dec and the Doc

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/14 "2020-04-02T15:43:53Z")

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Law and Order: Fish and Wildlife Service

Law and Order: Postal Inspectors

Law and Order: Casino Security

Law and Order: Speed Trap

Law and Order: Getting Overtime By Volunteering To Work A Business Convention

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/15 "2020-04-02T15:51:45Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Law and Order: Postal Inspectors

A few years ago, there was a Saturday morning educational children’s show on CBS called The Inspectors, which was about postal inspectors.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/16 "2020-04-02T15:55:27Z")

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I don’t watch Law and Order, but I do watch the commercials for of it. I think they ought to do a prequel about that sonofabitch that raped Mickey.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/17 "2020-04-02T15:57:56Z")

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> [@Sveltington](#):
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> Lennie Briscoe (please presume still alive and doing well) retires and on his last day, goes to say goodbye to Dr Rodgers. They finally acknowlege their love for each other. He persuades her to retire early and go off with him to a little cabin in ??? (dunno some rural place.) The first episode involves this cute little girl who comes to visit asking the former NYC Det to find her lost dog. After much investigation Lennie and Rogers do find the dog; standing guard over the dead body of the dogs owner; the little girls father!  
> Was he pushed?  
> Did he jump?  
> Why didn’t the little girl mention her father was ALSO missing???
> 
> Stay tuned for the next episode of . . .Law & Order: The Dec and the Doc

I was going to say that I don’t care what new concept they come up with for a series, as long as Dr. Rodgers can be in it.

I think I read somewhere, maybe here, that there was reference once to Briscoe and Rodgers going to the opera together.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/18 "2020-04-02T16:03:40Z")

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_Law & Order: Rookie Mistakes_

Investigations and cases go bad because n00bs screw up. But they pull it all together in the end. Roll credits.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/19 "2020-04-02T16:27:44Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> _Law & Order: The Munch Files_.
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> Sgt. John Munch goes renegade and starts finding a massive, interlinked set of conspiracies that tie every major event of the last 200 years together. Each episode is based on proving that an historical event is tied into this, giving yet another hint as to the people behind it. Plus aliens.

And, he is correct!

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/create-your-own-law-order-spinoff/850871/20 "2020-04-02T16:31:47Z")

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And on a serious note, I’d like L&O: Major Case Squad. You know, the real one, where they go after art theft and high dollar crimes. Art and jewel thieves make compelling protagonists.

Major Case isn’t supposed to be another murder squad, or RHD (or Priority Murder, if you’re a Closer fan). You do see hints of that in CI, though, just not enough.

Or L&O: Elevator Inspector also works.

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