# Creating Mega-conferences

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creating-mega-conferences/557496>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 17, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creating-mega-conferences/557496 "2010-10-17T23:44:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creating-mega-conferences/557496/1 "2010-10-17T23:44:17Z")

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Assume recent movement (Colorado and Utah to Pac-10 and Nebraska to Big 10) Share your take on my ideas.

To Big East  
Boston College  
Villanova  
Georgetown  
Temple

To Big 10  
Cincinnati  
Pittsburgh  
Iowa St  
Missouri  
Notre Dame

To SEC  
Louisville  
Memphis  
LA Tech  
Tulane  
UAB  
Georgia Tech  
Miami (FL)  
Florida St

To Big 12  
TCU  
SMU  
UTEP  
Rice  
Houston  
Tulsa  
To Pac 10  
Idaho  
Boise St  
Hawaii  
UNLV  
Nevada  
San Diego St  
San Jose St  
Fresno St

To ACC  
Marshall  
West Virginia  
South Carolina  
East Carolina

New Mountain West  
Colorado  
Colorado St  
Utah  
Utah St  
BYU  
Arizona  
Arizona St  
New Mexico  
New Mexico St  
Wyoming  
Montana  
Montana St

New Sun Belt  
Florida International  
Florida Atlantic  
Central Florida  
South Florida  
Louisiana-Monroe  
Louisiana-Lafayette  
Southern MS  
Arkansas St  
North TX

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creating-mega-conferences/557496/2 "2010-10-18T01:40:29Z")

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Here’s a few threads we’ve had this year on the topic:

[Big Ten talking about being big 12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=544053)[Let’s make a new SUPER college conference](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=563510)

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creating-mega-conferences/557496/3 "2010-10-18T01:44:58Z")

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Obviously, it’s supposed to read: Assume recent movement HASN’T happened.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creating-mega-conferences/557496/4 "2010-10-18T02:13:01Z")

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> [@](#):
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> To Big East  
> Villanova  
> Georgetown

These teams are already in the Big East.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creating-mega-conferences/557496/5 "2010-10-18T02:14:26Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> These teams are already in the Big East.

They don’t play D-I football (yet)

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creating-mega-conferences/557496/6 "2010-10-18T02:18:44Z")

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Your proposition looks to be based almost entirely upon geography and heavily southern biased (no mention of the MAC teams, Army, or Navy). It doesn’t seem to take into consideration money, size of the institution, money, size and quality of the facilities, money, possible expansion into new markets, and again money.

Why would the Big Ten accept Iowa St.? The current members would be losing money according to their revenue sharing model. Why would South Carolina be willing to leave the SEC to most likely earn less money in the ACC, especially with Miami and FSU gone? If you were going to kick out a current SEC school, why not Arkansas so they can go be with the Southwestern Conf. buddies. How the heck does Boise State get into the PAC-10 but Arizona, a school twice as big in large metropolitan area with a stadium with 20,000 more seats, get relegated to the new Mountain West.

Is this what you want to happen, think could happen, or just playing with scenarios? Because I can tell you right now, this has no chance of ever happening.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creating-mega-conferences/557496/7 "2010-10-18T02:27:36Z")

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> [@Wolverine](#):
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> Your proposition looks to be based almost entirely upon geography and heavily southern biased (no mention of the MAC teams, Army, or Navy). It doesn’t seem to take into consideration money, size of the institution, money, size and quality of the facilities, money, possible expansion into new markets, and again money.

All points, by the way etv, that were discussed extremely thoroughly in the first linked thread.

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> They don’t play D-I football (yet)

And why would they start?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creating-mega-conferences/557496/8 "2010-10-18T02:51:11Z")

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> [@Wolverine](#):
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> Your proposition looks to be based almost entirely upon geography and heavily southern biased (no mention of the MAC teams, Army, or Navy). It doesn’t seem to take into consideration money, size of the institution, money, size and quality of the facilities, money, possible expansion into new markets, and again money.
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> Why would the Big Ten accept Iowa St.? The current members would be losing money according to their revenue sharing model. Why would South Carolina be willing to leave the SEC to most likely earn less money in the ACC, especially with Miami and FSU gone? If you were going to kick out a current SEC school, why not Arkansas so they can go be with the Southwestern Conf. buddies. How the heck does Boise State get into the PAC-10 but Arizona, a school twice as big in large metropolitan area with a stadium with 20,000 more seats, get relegated to the new Mountain West.
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> Is this what you want to happen, think could happen, or just playing with scenarios? Because I can tell you right now, this has no chance of ever happening.

It is DEFINITELY geography driven. Re: MAC, other than removing Temple, (Oh, add Buffalo to the Big East, BTW), they are perfect, IMO. And I’m basically just messing around, stirring the pot.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creating-mega-conferences/557496/9 "2010-10-18T03:59:00Z")

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Incidentally, In my alignment, the service academies are Independents, though it wouldn’t offend me if Army and Navy went to the Big East, and leave Air Farce in the new Mt. West. To the Boise St. vs AZ schools-the conferences would get too big, because that domino would send the New Mexico schools, and CSU into the Big 12. And likely the Utahs into the Pac 10.

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creating-mega-conferences/557496/10 "2010-10-18T11:17:47Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> It is DEFINITELY geography driven. Re: MAC, other than removing Temple, (Oh, add Buffalo to the Big East, BTW), they are perfect, IMO. And I’m basically just messing around, stirring the pot.

As an actual proposal, I’d hate it and am glad it’ll never happen. You’re demoting my team to a weaker conference based on geography, and promoting Georgetown from I-AA in our place.

If you’re making a geographic fantasy, why are Miami, Florida and Florida State not in the Sun Belt? Why is North Texas not in the Big 12?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creating-mega-conferences/557496/11 "2010-10-18T19:04:34Z")

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> [@furt](#):
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> As an actual proposal, I’d hate it and am glad it’ll never happen. You’re demoting my team to a weaker conference based on geography, and promoting Georgetown from I-AA in our place.
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> If you’re making a geographic fantasy, why are Miami, Florida and Florida State not in the Sun Belt? Why is North Texas not in the Big 12?

The Sun Belt has no history of credible football play, and the Big 12 is already the Big 16 (or so) in my alignment.
