# "creation" Museum Opens: USA a Laughingstock?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 30, 2007, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078 "2007-05-30T16:15:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/21 "2007-05-30T18:55:28Z")

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[One of them is opening in Alberta](http://www.bvcsm.com/) – I won’t say Canada out of embarrassment.

And people wonder why I am concerned about American culture seeping into Canada.

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/22 "2007-05-30T19:03:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Muffin]  
[One of them is opening in Alberta](http://www.bvcsm.com/) – I won’t say Canada out of embarrassment.

And people wonder why I am concerned about American culture seeping into Canada.  
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(checking forum to see whether I can use my full range of expletives - oops, it’s not The Pit so I guess I can’t) Vehement Maledictions!!! Can’t you foreigners keep your funny beliefs down there?! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/23 "2007-05-30T19:11:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Hung Mung]  
Well, there’s a Bible theme park trying to get built just outside of Nashville right now. So I guess that’s strike two.  
[Link](http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070523/NEWS05/705230452)  
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Didn’t Ned Flanders already do something like this?

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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/24 "2007-05-30T19:53:32Z")

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Glen Rose, Texas [already has one](http://www.creationevidence.org/), presumably to counteract the nearby Dinosaur Valley State Park.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/25 "2007-05-30T19:55:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Capatalist Lion Tamer]  
I have yet to figure out how this became a USA vs. Europe thing. There are morons in Europe, I promise.  
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Erich von Däniken’s [Mystery Park](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_Park), anyone?

We’d be more of a laughing stock if creationists were successful at keeping discussion of evolution and natural selection out of biology classes, but with a very limited set of exceptions they haven’t. Ignorance is rampant, but it’s hardly an American creation.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/26 "2007-05-30T19:59:14Z")

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[QUOTE=ralph124c]  
. . .sorry, don’t have link).  
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[Here’s the museum’s website.](http://www.creationmuseum.org/)

Here’s a [disapproving article.](http://www.itv.com/news/world_424347c4afd9c359449dc2cd064e39c9.html)

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/27 "2007-05-30T19:59:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Muffin]  
[One of them is opening in Alberta](http://www.bvcsm.com/) – I won’t say Canada out of embarrassment.

And people wonder why I am concerned about American culture seeping into Canada.  
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Since when did Christianity belong to the Americans? I wasn’t aware they’d bought it.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/28 "2007-05-30T20:05:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
What I don’t get is why creationists acknowledge the science proving the existence of dinosaurs, but dismiss the science that proves the time which they existed. It seems to me they would look less stupid, relatively speaking of course, to just pretend the sceince behind dinosaurs is altogether phony.  
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Then they would have to explain why God made all those things that appear to be fossilized dinosaur bones. One creationist did once [provide such an explanation,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omphalos_(theology)) one impossible to disprove, but which I think most religious believers would find very hard to swallow. It’s based on the presumption that Adam, though never born of woman, had a navel, the newly-created trees had growth rings, and just as every living thing God made was an apparent relic of earlier stages of growth that never occurred, so the fossils are relics of stages of evolution that never occurred; God wasn’t trying to fool us, he was just trying to save time.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/29 "2007-05-30T20:06:35Z")

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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
Since when did Christianity belong to the Americans? I wasn’t aware they’d bought it.  
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Jesus is an American. Did you not know?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/30 "2007-05-30T20:09:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Dominic Mulligan]  
We try to keep ours well hidden 😛  
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Nonsense, some of them are royalty. 😛

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/31 "2007-05-30T20:17:27Z")

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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
Since when did Christianity belong to the Americans? I wasn’t aware they’d bought it.  
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Christian _Fundamentalism_ is an American baby. As a movement it started with New Jersey Presbyterians and then branched out. The fundamentalist identity solidified with the publication of _The Fundamentals_ in the early twentieth century by the Los Angeles Bible Institute. It became highly politicized in the 70s with Falwell’s Moral Majority.

Yeah, we have Fundamentalists up here, too - but it really is due to American influence.

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/32 "2007-05-30T20:31:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Mudd]  
As a movement it started with **New Jersey** Presbyterians and then branched out.  
(bolding mine)

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So, does this mean it is _ **another** _ thing that can be blamed on Jersey ?

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**Author:** ![LVgeogeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b19c9b/32.png) [@LVgeogeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVgeogeek)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/33 "2007-05-30T20:41:34Z")

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On campus once, some years ago, there were booths set up all about the student union outside area. One of the booths was for some creationist group. They were claiming, along with a bunch of other nonsense, that there never were any dinosaurs. The bones that evil scientists were claiming to be dinosaurs were actually bones of animals that “swelled up” from all the water during the Great Flood.

:eek: :smack: ☹

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/34 "2007-05-30T20:50:59Z")

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[QUOTE=LVgeogeek]  
The bones that evil scientists were claiming to be dinosaurs were actually bones of animals that “swelled up” from all the water during the Great Flood.  
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You mock, but [I’ve seen it with my own eyes!](http://jingetoys.en.alibaba.com/product/50200054/51118781/Growing_Toys/Toy_Dinosaurs.html)

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/35 "2007-05-30T21:08:37Z")

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And those so-called “whales?” Just ordinary fish that are retaining water.

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**Author:** ![Bike\_Rider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Bike\_Rider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bike_Rider)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/36 "2007-05-30T22:20:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Thudlow Boink]  
Didn’t Ned Flanders already do something like this?  
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I don’t think Ned was involved, but Orlando has [The Holy Land Experience.](http://www.theholylandexperience.com/) According to the [Wikipedia link](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land_Experience), it was started by a group called Zion’s Hope. It’s just north of Universal Studios, which I go to often, but I didn’t know it was there until about a year ago.

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**Author:** ![Hubert\_Cumberdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hubert\_Cumberdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hubert_Cumberdale)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/37 "2007-05-30T22:22:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Capatalist Lion Tamer]  
I have yet to figure out how this became a USA vs. Europe thing. There are morons in Europe, I promise.  
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This is true, but the U.S. definitely leads the way when it comes to fundamentalist morons.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/38 "2007-05-30T22:25:35Z")

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Well, one of the founders is [Australian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Ham), if that helps.

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**Author:** ![Hubert\_Cumberdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hubert\_Cumberdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hubert_Cumberdale)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/39 "2007-05-30T22:31:03Z")

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A smaller creation museum also just opened up in [Alberta.](http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2007/05/29/museum-ab.html)

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2007, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-museum-opens-usa-a-laughingstock/406078/40 "2007-05-30T22:41:55Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Jesus is an American. Did you not know?  
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Yup. Lily-white and blond-haired, too.

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