# Creation "Science" textbooks by Bob Jones University

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-science-textbooks-by-bob-jones-university/153299>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 6, 2003, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-science-textbooks-by-bob-jones-university/153299 "2003-02-06T20:32:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-science-textbooks-by-bob-jones-university/153299/21 "2003-02-07T00:00:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by asterion \*  
> \*\*It basically means that the degrees given from an institution are recognized by some body–the state, perhaps, or maybe some group like say the American Chemical Society for chemistry majors. I’m a little shaky on the details myself, but I know that any employer with any sense won’t go hiring someone for a skill position if their degree is non-accredited. \*\*

The rumor when I was in HS was that Harvard wasn’t accredited, because, after all, they were Harvard and saw no need to prove anything.

I’m not sure if that’s actually true.

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**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-science-textbooks-by-bob-jones-university/153299/22 "2003-02-07T01:15:46Z")

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I was in school when my public high school renewed it’s accredidation. It was a year-long process. A committee did things like survey students, sit in on classes, review teaching materials and looks at test results and extracurricular activities. It was a pretty involved process. If a school gets a particularly good review, they get a little longer period of time before they have to renew their accredidation again.

There are schools that don’t pass accredidation at all, but they have to be pretty extreme situations. There was one high school that apparently didn’t pass because they made low-income students who recieve free lunch eat sub-par food in a sectioned off (and poorly maintained) portion of the cafeteria. These kids (who were mostly Mexican in a mostly Anglo school) were pretty much singled out for ridicule. But in most cases when there is a problem with a school they are given a year to shape up and have the accredidation people come around again.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-science-textbooks-by-bob-jones-university/153299/23 "2003-02-07T01:28:04Z")

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> DDG: Do you suppose the Linguistics department at BJU stipulates the Tower of Babel as being an actual event?

Well, it **does** cut through a lot of the detail regarding Nostratic and Proto-World, doesn’t it? 😉

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-science-textbooks-by-bob-jones-university/153299/24 "2003-02-07T01:43:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Monty \*  
> \*\*DDG: Do you suppose the Linguistics department at BJU stipulates the Tower of Babel as being an actual event? \*\*

What do you mean? Of course it is!

[http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/5178/citybabl.html](http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/5178/citybabl.html)

😃

[Oh, you mean as in the _language_ thingie]

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-science-textbooks-by-bob-jones-university/153299/25 "2003-02-07T02:01:00Z")

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Ya’ll just back away from Baylor University, located in Greater Metropolitan Waco (the Athens of the Brazos) and home of the much feared and dreaded Baylor Bears! Ya’ll want to tell Aggie jokes, that’s fine, but there must be limits…

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-science-textbooks-by-bob-jones-university/153299/26 "2003-02-07T02:23:20Z")

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Yeah, but **Malthus** , it’s been proven by numerous conquerors that tried to burn it down and were sickly thereafter that _smoking ziggurats is hazardous to your health_! 😃

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-science-textbooks-by-bob-jones-university/153299/27 "2003-02-07T02:39:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Polycarp \*  
> \*\*Yeah, but **Malthus** , it’s been proven by numerous conquerors that tried to burn it down and were sickly thereafter that _smoking ziggurats is hazardous to your health_! 😃 \*\*

_Groans in pain_😛

How long were you waiting for an opportunity to make _that_ pun? 😃

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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-science-textbooks-by-bob-jones-university/153299/28 "2003-02-07T03:07:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Meatros \*  
> \*\*I talked to my fiance and found out it’s “Eastern Nazarine” college (I think that’s how you spell it). \*\*

That’s in my home town!! It’s actually not a bad place. Not a lot of sex however, as they feel it may lead to dancing.

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**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-science-textbooks-by-bob-jones-university/153299/29 "2003-02-07T03:48:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \*  
> \*\*A quick google check shows that [Eastern Nazarene College](http://www.enc.edu/) is fully accredited. I tried digging around to find out about their science curriculum and I couldn’t find anything specific about evolution, but they offer some basic biology courses which seem to be taught by instructors with legitimate PHD’s. \*\*

Thanks, that’s a bit of a relief!

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**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-science-textbooks-by-bob-jones-university/153299/30 "2003-02-07T04:11:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Polycarp \*  
> \*\*Yeah, but **Malthus** , it’s been proven by numerous conquerors that tried to burn it down and were sickly thereafter that _smoking ziggurats is hazardous to your health_! 😃 \*\*

Watch out, Polycarp- God may decide to confuse our tongues so that no pun like that may ever be made again… 😉

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