# Creation vs. Evolution.  What's the ratio.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-vs-evolution-whats-the-ratio/2916
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [August 24, 1999, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-vs-evolution-whats-the-ratio/2916 "1999-08-24T07:40:00Z")
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### Author: ![vanillanice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ecc23a/32.png) [@vanillanice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanillanice)
#### Post date: [August 30, 1999, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-vs-evolution-whats-the-ratio/2916/41 "1999-08-30T13:51:00Z")

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I believe that God created plants,animals,and humans as they are,in roughly 3 days. Some species can be changed:especially dogs,you can breed them for different traits,but they can still intermate. Therefore they are dogs and always will be. God created Adam and Eve fully human,a day after He created apes(gorillas,etc.).He was making improvements,as it were. I know some of you disagree on that! Notice the first 2 words in my paragraph…

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### Author: ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)
#### Post date: [August 30, 1999, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-vs-evolution-whats-the-ratio/2916/42 "1999-08-30T13:54:00Z")

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Beeruser: “intelligent design theory” = creationism. When the courts said they could teach creationism as science in public schools, they came up with new terms for the same baloney. This is one of them. Certainly _sounds_ scientific, doesn’t it? But it’s the same nonsense with a new name.

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### Author: ![the\_first\_supraliminal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f475e1/32.png) [@the\_first\_supraliminal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_first_supraliminal)
#### Post date: [August 31, 1999, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-vs-evolution-whats-the-ratio/2916/43 "1999-08-31T10:57:00Z")

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Well, David B, having just read about them (design theorists) I’m afraid I don’t know too much about them yet. But nowhere do they mention Creationism (a divine creation as according to the Bible.) Their basic argument against evolution is their non-acceptance of a naturalistic universe. And that science is second to the basic assumption of materialism.  
For anyone curious, you can read an article here:  
[http://www.origins.org/ftissues/ft9711/johnson.html](http://www.origins.org/ftissues/ft9711/johnson.html)

I believe mainstream science requires constant resistance. Only through such checks can the truth be revealed.

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One beer is less than two beers.

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### Author: ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)
#### Post date: [August 31, 1999, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creation-vs-evolution-whats-the-ratio/2916/44 "1999-08-31T13:38:00Z")

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Beeruser, of course they don’t specifically _mention_ creationism! What’s the point of creating a new term for something in order to fool people if they go around using the old term?!

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“It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence.”  
– William Kingdon Clifford

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