# Creationist almost discovers gravity

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 18, 2007, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460 "2007-01-18T16:05:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/1 "2007-01-18T16:05:14Z")

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We’ve already seen

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> **(titled ‘Creationist almost discovers the sun’ in some sources)**
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> “One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn’t possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it.”

On another board I sometimes post at (not sure if I can link because of board war potential), someone just said:

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> I know that the “big bang theory” is false because there exists no known force nor mechanism able to facilitate the condensation of matter into dense objects.

Just thought you guys would like that.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/2 "2007-01-18T16:10:42Z")

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Why do you hate God? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/3 "2007-01-18T16:39:22Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
Why do you hate God? 🙂  
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Because he allows people stupid enough to post the shite quoted in the OP to live.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/4 "2007-01-18T17:03:41Z")

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Wow.

**Mangetout** , you owe me a keyboard. Or whoever wrote that, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/5 "2007-01-18T17:05:35Z")

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Matter is frozen energy.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/6 "2007-01-18T17:08:40Z")

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Gravity is just a theory. I want equal time for Intelligent Falling.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/7 "2007-01-18T17:13:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
Because he allows people stupid enough to post the shite quoted in the OP to live.  
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Ah, but surely this proves that God does **not** exist, since he hates stupid people. 🙂

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**Author:** ![FlyingDragonFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@FlyingDragonFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingDragonFan)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/8 "2007-01-18T17:52:28Z")

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No, really, 'fess up. These are quotes from Onion articles, right?

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/9 "2007-01-18T18:22:06Z")

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> That just isn’t possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it.

I take it that person has never heard of solar energy either. Or photosynthesis.

Well, he or she _is_ right in a way. If such a source existed (and it does), scientists would know about it (and they ddo).

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/10 "2007-01-18T18:27:26Z")

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[QUOTE=tdn]  
Gravity is just a theory. I want equal time for Intelligent Falling.  
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One of my coworkers just popped up over my cube wall to see why I was snickering. Now he’s laughing, too. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/11 "2007-01-18T18:40:49Z")

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[QUOTE=tdn]  
Gravity is just a theory. I want equal time for Intelligent Falling.  
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(I know this is joke, but)  
::Slaps **tdn** with a herring::  
Stop that, stop that! Gravity is a scientific law! It has been observed observed over and over that matter is attracted to matter. Einstein’s curved space-time is a theory, gravity is a law.

Now unless anyone else wants to get herring-slapped I suggest you acknowledge the difference between scientific theories and scientific laws.  
(sorry)

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/12 "2007-01-18T18:53:38Z")

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Pshaw. A “scientific law” is just a theory that’s been dressed up real purty. 😉

P.S. Love the OP. Magnificent.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/13 "2007-01-18T19:56:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Regallag\_The\_Axe]  
Now unless anyone else wants to get herring-slapped I suggest you acknowledge the difference between scientific theories and scientific laws.  
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I never studied law.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/14 "2007-01-18T20:19:18Z")

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[QUOTE=FlyingDragonFan]  
No, really, 'fess up. These are quotes from Onion articles, right?  
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The first one isn’t. It’s from some sort of games forum ( not sure if I should mention the name; board wars like the OP said ). The full post is :

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Believe it or not, you were perfect when you were born. You were obviously healthy if you are posting here today, you hadn’t sinned, and were making choices and using your free will, though they were small choices. Unfortunately, later in your life you made some bad choices and now you are a sinner, but remember, God MADE you perfect.

One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn’t possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it.  
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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/15 "2007-01-18T20:41:12Z")

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[QUOTE=glee]  
Ah, but surely this proves that God does **not** exist, since he hates stupid people. 🙂  
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That’s me, not God. Don’t feel bad - a lot of people make that mistake. At least, I assume that’s why so many people mutter, “Jesus,” under their breath when they’re talking to me. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/16 "2007-01-19T05:09:58Z")

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Attention Awsomestnerd. This Is God. Cut It Out. You Are Making Me Look Like An Idiot.

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**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/17 "2007-01-19T05:14:59Z")

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OK, now I have the giggles.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/18 "2007-01-19T05:59:27Z")

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As do I. **tdn** gets a nine and a half for “Intelligent Falling”.

Mind if I steal that? I make absolutely no promise to credit you for it.

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**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/19 "2007-01-19T08:37:43Z")

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I _KNOW_ that gravity is a law! I had it on a tee shirt! 😃

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> Gravity: Not just a good idea, it’s THE LAW!

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-almost-discovers-gravity/388460/20 "2007-01-19T10:08:30Z")

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Laws are math, whereas theories are just lots and lots of words.

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