# Creationist Science Test from 4th Grade Science Class **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 22, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421 "2013-04-22T18:49:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/1 "2013-04-22T18:49:16Z")
[[Album] Actual 4th grade science test from a school in SC ![](https://i.imgur.com/TYpLJpO.jpeg?fb "Actual 4th grade science test from a school in SC") ](https://imgur.com/a/pPJmj#0) I question the provenance. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/2 "2013-04-22T19:39:20Z")
I like how the teacher helpfully labeled the grade, in case the students were confused. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/3 "2013-04-22T19:48:44Z")
It’s possible the teacher is teaching multiple science grades and labeled the test for organizational reasons. I don’t know that I’d buy that explanation, though. ---
**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/4 "2013-04-22T19:53:23Z")
Not a public school, is it? ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/5 "2013-04-22T20:06:53Z")
> [@tim314](#): > > Not a public school, is it? I doubt it, if it’s real. I hope it’s not. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/6 "2013-04-22T20:26:05Z")
No teacher I know heads a quiz with information like that. It looks either: professionally produced or photoshopped. In any case, a fake. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/7 "2013-04-22T20:35:19Z")
Not a creationism fan by any means but it screams fakey, fake. Nice super generic title “4th GRADE SCIENCE QUIZ” Seriously? Thanks for the tip because it would be real confusing if it said something more expected like “Module 4 - Section 3” or similar. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/8 "2013-04-22T21:29:19Z")
Yeah. Fake. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/9 "2013-04-22T21:45:19Z")
> [@tim314](#): > > Not a public school, is it? > [@astro](#): > > Nice super generic title > > “4th GRADE SCIENCE QUIZ” If it’s a private school run by people dumb enough to believe that stuff I can believe they couldn’t think of a better title for the test. Fake most likely, but maybe some homeschool thing also. Anyway, if it’s a fake I applaud the creator for creativity. If it’s real I applaud the creator for their belief in the creator and their ability to harm children and rob them of a chance to live in a house without wheels. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/10 "2013-04-22T21:53:03Z")
😕 Dinosaurs lived with people. True that should be False The age of dinos was well before man. Unless you’re Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble. Theres no reason a creationist would dispute that. Genesis doesn’t mention dinosaurs. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/11 "2013-04-22T21:54:53Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > 😕 Dinosaurs lived with people. True that should be False > > The age of dinos was well before man. > > Theres no reason a creationist would dispute that. Genesis doesn’t mention dinosaurs. Uh, no. You must have missed a day at school. We were all created on the 6th day. Even the fourth grader knew that. ---
**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/12 "2013-04-22T22:19:30Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > 😕 Dinosaurs lived with people. True that should be False > > The age of dinos was well before man. Unless you’re Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble. > > Theres no reason a creationist would dispute that. Genesis doesn’t mention dinosaurs. Google the Creationist Museum. Marvel at the…I don’t know the word for it. When I was little I remember my religious nut aunt saying that dinosaur fossils were placed there by God to test our faith, or else by scientists to trick us…something like that. Now they seem to have changed it to say that dinosaurs did exist, but at the same time as humans. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/13 "2013-04-22T22:31:41Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > 😕 Dinosaurs lived with people. True that should be False > > The age of dinos was well before man. Unless you’re Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble. > > Theres no reason a creationist would dispute that. Genesis doesn’t mention dinosaurs. Welllllll… According to Creationists, the behemoth and leviathan as examples of dinosaurs referenced in the bible. I don’t know if these creatures are mentioned in Genesis. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/14 "2013-04-22T22:31:49Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > 😕 Dinosaurs lived with people. True that should be False > > The age of dinos was well before man. Unless you’re Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble. > > Theres no reason a creationist would dispute that. Genesis doesn’t mention dinosaurs. There are Creationists who don’t take the word “day” in Genesis 1 literally, even though the author goes out of his way to make it clear that he means a 24-hour day, e.g., “And the evening and the morning were the second day.” They say a “day” could be a period of millions of years, which gives time for the rise and fall of dinosaurs before the creation of humans. But there are so-called Young-Earth Creationists who do take Genesis 1 (and subsequent chapters) literally, so they believe that the earth and all life was created in the same six-day period. And since Genesis gives the ages of the patriarchs at the time the next link in the lineage was born, they can add them up from Adam down to a time we can date (approximately) by extra-Biblical methods, and they come up with an age for the earth of 6 to 10 thousand years. Personally, I think the second group has more integrity. The first group IMO is trying not to look ignorant of science, but they succeed only in compromising their faith. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/15 "2013-04-22T22:35:35Z")
Job 40:15-24 > **[Behemoth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behemoth)** > > Behemoth (/bɪˈhiːməθ, ˈbiːə-/; Hebrew: בְּהֵמוֹת, bəhēmōṯ) is a beast from the biblical Book of Job, and is a form of the primeval chaos-monster created by God at the beginning of creation; he is paired with the other chaos-monster, Leviathan, and according to later Jewish tradition both would become food for the righteous at the end-time. Metaphorically, the name has come to be used for any extremely large or powerful entity. > The Hebrew word behemoth has the same form as the plural of the Hebre... > [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > Welllllll… According to Creationists, the behemoth and leviathan as examples of dinosaurs referenced in the bible. I don’t know if these creatures are mentioned in Genesis. ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/16 "2013-04-22T22:39:08Z")
“Creationist science” is an oxymoron. (I almost typed “cretinist science.”) ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/17 "2013-04-22T23:17:04Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > 😕 Dinosaurs lived with people. True that should be False > > The age of dinos was well before man. Unless you’re Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble. > > Theres no reason a creationist would dispute that. Genesis doesn’t mention dinosaurs. You haven’t heard about the [Jesus horse](http://www.useyourblinker.co/2010/11/jesus-horse.html)?:eek: ---
**Author:** ![Qwakkeddup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/90ced4/32.png) [@Qwakkeddup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qwakkeddup)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/18 "2013-04-22T23:19:16Z")
> [@EmilyG](#): > > “Creationist science” is an oxymoron. > > (I almost typed “cretinist science.”) You missed an A+, should not have second guessed yourself.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/19 "2013-04-22T23:28:23Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > There are Creationists who don’t take the word “day” in Genesis 1 literally, even though the author goes out of his way to make it clear that he means a 24-hour day, e.g., “And the evening and the morning were the second day.” They say a “day” could be a period of millions of years, which gives time for the rise and fall of dinosaurs before the creation of humans. Note: everything I say here is based on an English translation I’m not at all sure how you can take the word “day” in Genesis to mean a literal 24 hour period. Each day is described as an “evening” and a “morning”, but since the sun wasn’t created until the fourth day, these “days” don’t seem to be what we think of as days. This doesn’t help with the dinosaur issue, of course, because land creatures weren’t produced until the sixth day – after the sun. Pterosaurs and plesiosaurs were created on the fifth day I presume along with the other winged and sea creatures ---
**Author:** ![basset\_hound](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/basset_hound/32/1432_2.png) [@basset\_hound](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/basset_hound)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421/20 "2013-04-23T00:01:23Z")
I teach 4th grade science. The only chance that could be a real test is if it was for a very small fundamentalist christian school. Though it’s a sad fact there are certainly adults in this country who would give the same answers on that quiz, there’s no way it could come from a public school. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creationist-science-test-from-4th-grade-science-class/656421.md?page=2)