# Credit crunching wedding.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 29, 2008, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065 "2008-10-29T12:09:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/1 "2008-10-29T12:09:45Z")

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> **[The £100,000 white wedding for the 16-year-old girl who lives in a caravan](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1081355/The-100-000-white-wedding-16-year-old-girl-lives-caravan.html)**
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> A father who lives in a caravan and surfaces driveways for a living has splashed out an incredible £100,000 for his 16-year-old daughter's wedding.

I don’t know what to say other than that I hate the Daily Mail.

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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/2 "2008-10-29T12:26:40Z")

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The mother’s get-up is worse than the bride’s.

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**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/3 "2008-10-29T12:36:03Z")

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C’mon- lives in a caravan, surfaces driveways for a living, two generations of teenage weddings, tack-o-rama with the outfits…you know it’s cultural.  
Irish Travellers are all about the big statement wedding.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/4 "2008-10-29T12:39:13Z")

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Is this a weird new season of “The Riches”?

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/5 "2008-10-29T12:42:23Z")

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> [@irishgirl](#):
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> C’mon- lives in a caravan, surfaces driveways for a living, two generations of teenage weddings, tack-o-rama with the outfits…you know it’s cultural.  
> Irish Travellers are all about the big statement wedding.

Yep, did you see that show on RTE last year about the Debs? There was a lovely Traveller girl from Dundalk on it and they made such a big deal of it, spent hundreds on it. I’m of the opinion that if it makes them happy and they can afford it, why not? It’s not my cup of tea but plenty of things aren’t.

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**Author:** ![Girl\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@Girl\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girl_Hermit)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/6 "2008-10-29T13:26:49Z")

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What’s an ‘Irish Traveller’?

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/7 "2008-10-29T13:36:05Z")

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> [@Girl\_Hermit](#):
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> What’s an ‘Irish Traveller’?

They’re itinerants who live in Ireland, the UK and elsewhere. They’re similar to gypsies but they are of Irish origin, usually Roman Catholic in faith.

> **[Irish Travellers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Traveller)**
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> Irish Travellers (Irish: An lucht siúil, meaning the walking people), also known as Mincéirs (Shelta: Mincéirí) or Pavees, are a traditionally peripatetic indigenous ethno-cultural group originating in Ireland.
> They are predominantly English-speaking, though many also speak Shelta, a language of mixed English and Irish origin. The majority of Irish Travellers are Roman Catholic, the predominant religion in the Republic of Ireland. They are one of several groups identified as "Travellers" in t...

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/8 "2008-10-29T14:18:25Z")

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> [@Girl\_Hermit](#):
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> What’s an ‘Irish Traveller’?

Ever see the movie ‘Snatch?’ Brad Pitt’s character and his family.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/9 "2008-10-29T15:55:32Z")

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You know, I’ve visited a lot of “awful wedding dress” sites, and yet I can honestly say that that is the trashiest-looking wedding dress I have ever seen.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/10 "2008-10-29T16:09:44Z")

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You’d think for that kind of money they could afford a whole dress.

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**Author:** ![phall0106](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phall0106/32/5934_2.png) [@phall0106](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phall0106)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/11 "2008-10-29T16:12:27Z")

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Oh. My. God.

I was stunned, reading the article. In retrospect, I think it’s a bit odd that the one thing that made me wince the most was the fact that she’s just _days_ past her 16th birthday made me wince.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/12 "2008-10-29T16:32:43Z")

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Young marriage is pretty much standard in the Travelling Community.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/13 "2008-10-29T16:43:22Z")

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I like this bit:

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> She met Thomas at Alton Towers theme park when she was 13.

At least the meeting place was also appropriately lowbrow and trashy.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/14 "2008-10-29T16:57:46Z")

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At the risk of making a politically incorrect statement, does a driveway surfacer make enough money legally to pay for all that?

And, holy crap, what a steaming pile of shit! This all offends my Mennonite sensibilities mightily (and that’s cultural, too). I like mom’s GG cup bra as a mother-of-the-bride dress. Extreme Trashy as a culture. Interesting.

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**Author:** ![Dripping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Dripping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dripping)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/15 "2008-10-29T17:03:14Z")

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How much is that in US dollars?

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/16 "2008-10-29T17:04:12Z")

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> [@dripping](#):
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> how much is that in us dollars?

$163,030

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/17 "2008-10-29T17:09:37Z")

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> [@irishgirl](#):
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> C’mon- lives in a caravan, surfaces driveways for a living, two generations of teenage weddings, tack-o-rama with the outfits…you know it’s cultural.  
> Irish Travellers are all about the big statement wedding.

That’s what someone said in the comments too–is it really true? Obviously her parents were quite young when they married too–but the tackiness?

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**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/18 "2008-10-29T17:27:26Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> but the tackiness?

the tackiness:D  
[Racism]Generally these weddings end with various people beating the shite out of each other, and wrecking the place. Every few months there is a story about a publican getting sued because he wouldn’t rent his premises for a traveller wedding.[/racism]

Tackiness is _nothing_.

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**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/19 "2008-10-29T18:20:27Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> They’re itinerants who live in Ireland, the UK and elsewhere. They’re similar to gypsies but they are of Irish origin, usually Roman Catholic in faith.  
> [Irish Travellers - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Traveller)

[pc police] By “gypsies” you refer to the [Roma](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roma_people)?[/pc police\*]

\*Seriously. Gypsies is considered a racial slur.

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**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/20 "2008-10-29T18:37:48Z")

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Well, it’s not so much tacky.  
Travellers like their dress-up clothes to be shiny, glittery, sparkly, embellished and brightly coloured, so you know that they’re really, really happy. That can look trashy to the rest of us.

Since the only time that it is culturally acceptable for Traveller women to show off their figures is at weddings and big celebrations (and remember, most are married before they hit 20) the dresses tend to be on the skimpy side too.

Think of it like Hallowe’en- a day you get to dress outrageously and no-one can say a word about it.

I think the article was unnecessarily snide.  
If the bride and groom are happy, the parents are happy and everyone had a nice time, who the fuck cares how much it cost? The same people who gasp at the tackiness of that will have ooh’ed and aah’ed over [Jordan’s](http://evilbeetgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/wedding_1.jpg) or [Britney’s](http://www.celebrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/britney-spears-kevin-federline-wedding-divorce-11-8-2006.jpg)weddings.

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