# Credit crunching wedding.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 29, 2008, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065 "2008-10-29T12:09:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Dripping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Dripping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dripping)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/21 "2008-10-29T18:43:27Z")

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> [@irishgirl](#):
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> C’mon- lives in a caravan, surfaces driveways for a living, two generations of teenage weddings, tack-o-rama with the outfits…you know it’s cultural.  
> Irish Travellers are all about the big statement wedding.

How do any of you know for sure that they are “travellers”? They look latino to me, at least the mom and bride do.

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/22 "2008-10-29T18:50:48Z")

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If she got married just days after her 16th birthday, how old was she when she got the tit job? 15? 14? Did she and mom get them done at the same time?

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/23 "2008-10-29T18:56:18Z")

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> [@jali](#):
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> The mother’s get-up is worse than the bride’s.

Terribly good of her to make do with no top on her dress so her daughter could afford all this, of course.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/24 "2008-10-29T19:13:17Z")

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Humm.

Well, it’s not what I would choose to wear on my ‘Special Day’ and I think spending that much money on a wedding is absurd; however, they look very happy so I guess it’s all good.

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**Author:** ![Time\_Stranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Time\_Stranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Time_Stranger)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/25 "2008-10-29T19:26:40Z")

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Sort of off topic, but what is a caravan in this modern context? A group of RVs? Or is it more of a mobile-home type situation?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/26 "2008-10-29T19:38:39Z")

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> [@TroubleAgain](#):
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> \*Seriously. Gypsies is considered a racial slur.

Possibly not in Ireland.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/27 "2008-10-29T20:51:25Z")

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> [@TroubleAgain](#):
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> \*Seriously. Gypsies is considered a racial slur.

Not by me it isn’t

> **[Romani people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy)**
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> This is an accepted version of this page 
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> The Romani, also spelled Romany or Rromani (/ˈroʊməni/ ROH-mə-nee or /ˈrɒməni/ ROM-ə-nee), colloquially known as the Roma (sg.: Rom), are an Indo-Aryan ethnic group who traditionally lived a nomadic, itinerant lifestyle. Linguistic and genetic evidence suggests that the Romani originated in the Indian subcontinent; in particular, the region of present-day Rajasthan.\[note 1\] Their subsequent westward migration, possibly in waves, is now believed by hist...

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/28 "2008-10-29T20:54:29Z")

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> [@Time\_Stranger](#):
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> Sort of off topic, but what is a caravan in this modern context? A group of RVs? Or is it more of a mobile-home type situation?

It can be a caravan like [this](http://www.kilbybridgecaravans.co.uk/), RVs are common enough but some trailers are expensive and have plenty of space. It depends on how well the occupier is doing financially really.

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**Author:** ![JimmyFlair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce7236/32.png) [@JimmyFlair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JimmyFlair)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/29 "2008-10-29T21:14:11Z")

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**An Gadai** ,what does “Debs” mean? I heard this term while I was in Ireland a few weeks ago.

Loved Ireland, by the way!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/30 "2008-10-29T21:18:33Z")

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> [@Time\_Stranger](#):
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> Sort of off topic, but what is a caravan in this modern context? A group of RVs? Or is it more of a mobile-home type situation?

A caravan is what you’d call an RV, only you tow it behind a car or truck. There really isn’t space on European roads for Winnebago-type RVs. A US style RV is usually called a “camper van”.

\*Caravan also refers to an old-time trade convoy deal, with camels, or whatever.

> [@JimmyFlair](#):
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> **An Gadai** ,what does “Debs” mean? I heard this term while I was in Ireland a few weeks ago.
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> Loved Ireland, by the way!

Debutantes, I think.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/31 "2008-10-29T21:23:34Z")

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> [@JimmyFlair](#):
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> **An Gadai** ,what does “Debs” mean? I heard this term while I was in Ireland a few weeks ago.
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> Loved Ireland, by the way!

It’s The Debutante’s Ball, the Irish version of the Prom.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/32 "2008-10-29T21:28:31Z")

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> [@TroubleAgain](#):
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> [pc police] By “gypsies” you refer to the [Roma](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roma_people)?[/pc police\*]
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> \*Seriously. Gypsies is considered a racial slur.

You might want to tell the Gypsy Conucil that, plus the government due to [pages](http://www.standards.dfes.gov.uk/ethnicminorities/raising_achievement/gypsy_travellerachievement/) such as [these](http://www.communities.gov.uk/housing/housingmanagementcare/gypsiesandtravellers/). In other words, it’s not considered a racial slur in Britain, when used correctly in reference to a particular ethnic group.

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**Author:** ![Pullet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Pullet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pullet)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/33 "2008-10-29T21:31:36Z")

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She’s only being practicle. The crystals off her dress will help her start fires, allowing her to keep her enormous breasts warm in the harsh Irish winters.

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**Author:** ![Tamex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Tamex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamex)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/34 "2008-10-29T21:33:17Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> A caravan is what you’d call an RV, only you tow it behind a car or truck.

In the US, that would be called a travel trailer. The Winnebago-type are called motorhomes. Both would be considered RV’s.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/35 "2008-10-29T23:46:09Z")

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Wasn’t Brad Pitt’s character in _Snatch_ a Irish Traveller? That would explain a lot.

Still, mother and daughter appear to have nice racks, which makes me happy and complacent when thinking about this and looking at the photos. Plus, they look like they’d be easy, which is a nice thought too.

Wouldn’t marry 'em for any amount of money though!

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/36 "2008-10-29T23:48:05Z")

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In Eastern Europe, the local word for gypsy (which is inevitably something like “tsigan” or “sigan”, no matter what the language) is very commonly used. I heard alternately that it’s offensive and not offensive, and although I always said Roma to stay on the safe side, I literally never once heard a Roma person describe themselves as such; they also used “tsiganni” and described their language as “tsiganski”. Western, more politically aware Roma, might have a different POV, but this is not really set in stone.

In Bulgaria, most Roma aren’t politically aware because they’re illiterate and haven’t been to school past grade 4 or 5. Getting married (including kidnapping girls and forcing them to marry) is normal.

Anyway. That wedding is something else, huh?

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credit-crunching-wedding/470065/37 "2008-10-29T23:55:11Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> Wasn’t Brad Pitt’s character in _Snatch_ a Irish Traveller? That would explain a lot.

See Post #8

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