# Credits Q for the movie Payback; RE James Coburn. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 13, 2006, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credits-q-for-the-movie-payback-re-james-coburn/368530 "2006-08-13T07:19:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credits-q-for-the-movie-payback-re-james-coburn/368530/1 "2006-08-13T07:19:30Z")
I didn’t see James Coburns’ name in the credits at the end of the movie for playing Fairfax, any reason? They show Fairfaxs’ body guard but not Fairfax in the credits… Any reason? ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credits-q-for-the-movie-payback-re-james-coburn/368530/2 "2006-08-13T12:14:23Z")
Anyone? Was this a mistake or is it somewhat common for a stars name to left out of the ending credits? ---
**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credits-q-for-the-movie-payback-re-james-coburn/368530/3 "2006-08-13T12:21:18Z")
Apparently, according to this Entertainment Weekly blurb, his part was just a quick uncredited cameo that expanded into a much larger role: [http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,84146\_1|8417||0\_0\_,00.html](http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,84146_1%7C8417%7C%7C0_0_,00.html) I’d wager that’s because of the reshoots Mel Gibson demanded. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credits-q-for-the-movie-payback-re-james-coburn/368530/4 "2006-08-13T12:24:37Z")
> [@brianjedi](#): > > I’d wager that’s because of the reshoots Mel Gibson demanded. “We need reshoot that scene, too many of the extras looked like Jews…” ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credits-q-for-the-movie-payback-re-james-coburn/368530/5 "2006-08-13T12:54:30Z")
There are many reasons why actors are deliberately uncredited, but usually it’s because they don’t want to be seen taken a minor part when they are major stars. This isn’t ego: it’s money – the studios will try to lowball their next starring role by pointing out they were willing to take less for their last role in small supporting part they liked. It is always the actor’s choice – he’ll raise a stink otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![brianjedi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@brianjedi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brianjedi)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credits-q-for-the-movie-payback-re-james-coburn/368530/6 "2006-08-13T12:56:36Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > “We need reshoot that scene, too many of the extras looked like Jews…” You win the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credits-q-for-the-movie-payback-re-james-coburn/368530/7 "2006-08-13T13:33:54Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > There are many reasons why actors are deliberately uncredited, but usually it’s because they don’t want to be seen taken a minor part when they are major stars. This isn’t ego: it’s money – the studios will try to lowball their next starring role by pointing out they were willing to take less for their last role in small supporting part they liked. > > It is always the actor’s choice – he’ll raise a stink otherwise. See also: Willis, Bruce in _Four Rooms_. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/credits-q-for-the-movie-payback-re-james-coburn/368530/8 "2006-08-13T14:16:02Z")
And Robin Williams in **Dead Again**