# Creepiest possibly slash pairings **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 18, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577 "2008-10-18T23:37:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/61 "2008-10-19T15:57:49Z")
[QUOTE=Small Hen] Tony Stark has been raped by the Iron Man suit on more than one occasion. Of course, that’s because it was almost canon. :eek: [/QUOTE] Jeez—and people thought putting rubber _nipples_ on the _Batsuit_ was a bad idea… :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Risha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@Risha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Risha)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/62 "2008-10-19T17:03:41Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I misread the linked post as suggesting a romantic relationship between Buffy & Giles, which would be wrong in at least four different ways. I generally find it pretty icky too, but I can offer you at least one good one: [Alternative Lifestyle](http://bbfarchive.dbfandom.com/archive/0/alternativelifestyle.html), by A.C. Chapin. > [@Small\_Hen](#): > > _Supernatural_ wins my vote for most insane fandom on the net. The dominate pairing by a landslide is Sam/Dean incest, but don’t think people don’t throw John into the mix as well. I haven’t read it, but I understand that there’s a John/Dean fic out there featuring John as a pregnant hermaphrodite, and a scene where Dean is f\*\*\*ing him while using a vegetable (a squash, I think) on the girly bits. And Sam wanders through the scene to tell them to keep it down. To the best of my knowledge, it’s not a parody. > [@Ranchoth](#): > > River and Simon. A very common and popular pairing, actually. > [@Wile\_E](#): > > I remember a discussion of Heroes in the first season where some people noted that the chemistry between Nathan and Peter was so strong that some might consider them a slash pairing. A very common and popular pairing, actually. There’s also a fair amount of Peter/Claire. I find the Sylar/(almost everyone) pairings to be much more disturbing, personally. > [@Stauderhorse](#): > > There’s always Fred and George Weasley. And Voldemort and Harry, which is just “WTH” on many levels. Fred/George - A very common and popular pairing, actually. I’ve read some Voldemort/Harry (and Tom Riddle/Harry), and in all fairness, it’s almost all noncon or “Harry goes evil” fic. I haven’t read anything spectacular, but some isn’t half bad. > [@Rysto](#): > > Ginny/Tom Riddle Like the Harry, it’s usually noncon. > [@CaerieD](#): > > Snape/Hermione. I’ve read a lot of very good Snape/Hermione, actually. A large percentage of it takes place when they’re both adults, and most of what isn’t has her be at least 16 or 17. The stuff that takes place with her younger than that is pretty scarce, and a lot of it is noncon. To show that it can be done, good stuff that takes place at Hogwarts and isn’t porn (neither are over PG-13): [Ordinary People](http://www.obscurusbooks.org/html/Hayseed/OrdinaryPeople/index.html) by Hayseed [Letter From Exile One Merciful Morning](http://www.fanfiction.net/s/131573/1/) by TextualSphinx ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/63 "2008-10-19T17:30:41Z")
> [@Risha](#): > > I haven’t read it, but I understand that there’s a John/Dean fic out there featuring John as a pregnant hermaphrodite, and a scene where Dean is f\*\*\*ing him while using a vegetable (a squash, I think) on the girly bits. And Sam wanders through the scene to tell them to keep it down. > > To the best of my knowledge, it’s not a parody. O.o Perhaps not a parody, but definitly a deliberate attempt to shock. There’s an LJ called _Supernatural hardcore_, which is basically a community of fans trying to outdo one another by coming up with the most depraved fics possible. I browsed through it once, and came out in need of a shower. The hermaphrodite/Mpreg/veggie one’s probably hosted there. I’m pretty sure there’s also an lj devoted to the Supernatural actors being pregnant. I need to find a new tv show with normal fans. ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/64 "2008-10-19T17:34:49Z")
> [@Soggy\_Biscuit](#): > > I can’t believe there are people here who admit to reading pedophile porn. Disgusting. Knowing something exists and approving of it are two very, very different things. The thread is “creepiest possible slash pairings,” not “stuff I read to get off.” You’re going to get people mentioning the creepiest stuff they’ve ever heard of or stumbled across. I’ve yet to see _any_ approval of outright pedophilia. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/65 "2008-10-19T17:36:20Z")
Ender Wiggin + Mazer Rackham I win. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Tyger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Silver\_Tyger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Tyger)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/66 "2008-10-19T17:40:58Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > You know, I think I might have read that one, once…wait, you said “dubious” consent, right? 'Might not be the same one I’m thinking of. :eek: Well, I consider it dubcon. She says yes, but… On the other hand, I’ve reread it multiple times, so… Course it’s by a friend of mine, and I reread all of her stuff. ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/67 "2008-10-19T17:45:26Z")
The absolute creepiest that I ever actually read all the way through involved Justin Timberlake and some record producer whose name I don’t remember. Apparently, Justin was also capable of getting pregnant and performed an abortion on himself before bleeding to death in the producer’s arms, who found him just before he expired. I finished it only because it was so bizarre and unlike anything I’d ever heard of before, though I’ve since discovered that both real people fic and Mpreg are distressingly common. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/68 "2008-10-19T17:52:58Z")
Alf/Mrs. Ochmonek ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/69 "2008-10-19T18:40:44Z")
Someone on the SDMB once posted a link to a cartoon which showed Gilligan and the Skipper. Gilligan was the “top”. ---
**Author:** ![cordylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@cordylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cordylus)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/70 "2008-10-19T18:46:08Z")
I can’t help but think of this one whenever I see either on TV. Chris Matthews + Lou Dobbs And that ladies and gentlemen is my second post ever to this board. Thank you and goodnight. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/71 "2008-10-19T18:47:46Z")
> [@Risha](#): > > I haven’t read it, but I understand that there’s a John/Dean fic out there featuring John as a pregnant hermaphrodite, and a scene where Dean is f\*\*\*ing him while using a vegetable (a squash, I think) on the girly bits. And Sam wanders through the scene to tell them to keep it down. Oh God, the zucchini fic. I’m telling you, that one is _legendary_. _falls over laughing_ John/Dean, Sam/Dean, John/Sam, etc. etc.–I can understand these. People were writing incest pairings before _Supernatural_, and all three actors are very, very pretty people, and the boys really do have unbelievable chemistry, for whatever reason. No, it’s Trickster/Sam that pings my creepy radar (no offence to the Trickster actor, who I’m sure is a truly awesome guy)… 😃 As for the creepiest–or most hilarious–pairing ever… wait, let me see if I can dig it up… [here you go](http://velvet-mace.livejournal.com/98822.html). The true and epic love of a fork and spoon. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/72 "2008-10-19T18:59:02Z")
Shadowfax/Pippin nonconsensual I think (hope), though, that that one was a parody. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/73 "2008-10-19T19:02:53Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > Shadowfax/Pippin nonconsensual > > I think (hope), though, that that one was a parody. How does Pippin survive? ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/74 "2008-10-19T19:20:28Z")
I don’t know, I didn’t read past the summary. ---
**Author:** ![Soggy\_Biscuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Soggy\_Biscuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soggy_Biscuit)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/75 "2008-10-19T19:36:58Z")
> [@Small\_Hen](#): > > To be fair, sometimes you just stumble across this stuff while looking for normal fanfiction. I don’t think most of the Dopers are seeking it out. I think there’s a limitation to how far you can take the “stumbled upon” excuse. I’ve seen plenty of links to stories that involve underage characters in my years on the internet. I never followed the links and read enough of the story to determine whether it was “consensual” or not. People in this thread are claiming to have read multiple stories involving characters that are underage (in one case, a series where ALL the characters are underage), enough to claim that they are “usually” non-consensual. There’s a difference between knowing that the stuff is out there, or seeing a link to Pokemon porn in a collection of fan-fiction, and reading enough of the stories to be able to catalog who is involved in the various pairings. There’s a lot of sick people getting their kicks from pedophile porn with the excuse that it’s just fictional characters, or that they are reading it “ironically” because they think it’s humorous. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/76 "2008-10-20T02:07:33Z")
[QUOTE=Silver Tyger Girl] Well, I consider it dubcon. She says yes, but… On the other hand, I’ve reread it multiple times, so… Course it’s by a friend of mine, and I reread all of her stuff. [/QUOTE] Yeah, it’s gotta be a different one than the one I browsed through…there weren’t even the the rationalized possibility of consent, dubious or not, in that one. 'Course, in it’s defense, it was more like a tragic Lifetime-movie drama than a quick and dirty smut fic. (I counted at least two deaths, including Jim Gordon’s suicide. Yow.) And, back to the subject at hand, I once saw a bit of X-Men fanart that shipped a Sentinel and…the Blackbird. It was actually rather sweet. ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/77 "2008-10-20T02:15:43Z")
> [@Soggy\_Biscuit](#): > > I think there’s a limitation to how far you can take the “stumbled upon” excuse. I’ve seen plenty of links to stories that involve underage characters in my years on the internet. I never followed the links and read enough of the story to determine whether it was “consensual” or not. People in this thread are claiming to have read multiple stories involving characters that are underage (in one case, a series where ALL the characters are underage), enough to claim that they are “usually” non-consensual. > . Dont be so sure. A LOT is outlined in a fanfiction summary, because people often go looking for very specific types/kinks/pairings. Just because we know about it’s existence doesn’t mean we’ve read it. So, in my quest for a fun, adventurous, platonic Supernatural fic where Dean saves his brother Sam from vampires, I might also see this (made up) story archived: Title: Twisted Love Pairing: Dean (underage)/John Rating: NC-17 Summary: Dean didn’t understand why his father’s love felt so dangerous. Warnings: Wincest, underage, molestation, non-con, abuse. See? I didn’t read the fic, but now I know it exists. I think most people are sharing similar experiences here. I personally don’t read underage fics. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/78 "2008-10-20T02:30:00Z")
> [@Small\_Hen](#): > > Dont be so sure. A LOT is outlined in a fanfiction summary, because people often go looking for very specific types/kinks/pairings. General porn fiction archives also tend to include detailed descriptions of the content, including, but not limited to… Underage or pedo. Non-con, dub-con, or rape. Same sex (including which sex) sex. Group sex. BDSM. Pretty much anything that could be squicky, offencive, or just unarousing - or arousing, if that’s what you’re looking for. Not to mention this thread isn’t about porn, so unless the post specifically mentions it’s porn, there’s no reason to believe that they’re talking about porn. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/79 "2008-10-20T07:56:58Z")
Calvin/Hobbes. Now where did I put that brain bleach? ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577/80 "2008-10-20T08:59:16Z")
> [@Stauderhorse](#): > > There’s always Fred and George Weasley. And Voldemort and Harry, which is just “WTH” on many levels. Twincest is best! 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-possibly-slash-pairings/468577.md?page=5)