# Creepiest rock song?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 12, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943 "2008-12-12T22:12:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/101 "2008-12-14T01:31:12Z")

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[The Rolling Stones - Jumping Jack Flash lyrics | LyricsFreak](http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rolling+stones/jumping+jack+flash_20118147.html) Rolling Stone love song,Jumping Jack Flash

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/102 "2008-12-14T01:48:34Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> He says that they’re “two silhouettes saying goodnight by the garden gate” and previously states that her boyfriends would be frustrated to learn that they’d spent their week’s wages “all for a cuddle and a peck on the cheek”.
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> She doesn’t sound like she was making out with anyone. Just having innocent fun late into the night.

Right.

But. On the live version of the song, found on the Kinks’ live album _The Road_, Ray does say “kissing” rather than “saying goodnight.”

And at the end of the song, he says, “Every Saturday night, my sister used to go to the Palais. And she came home and say to Ray, ‘I came dancing tonight.’”

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**Author:** ![constanze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@constanze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/constanze)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/103 "2008-12-14T02:23:32Z")

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**Falco’s Jeanny** caused a [big scandal](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanny) at its time - some radio stations boycotted it, other media figures argued that the song was harmless (And the whole thing simply an attention-grabing ploy), although the spoken news in the song and the lyrics make a good reference to a serial killer (the video even more so)

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> Sie kommen!… Sie kommen dich zu holen… Sie werden dich nicht finden.… Niemand wird dich finden!… Du bist bei mir!“  
> They are coming! They are coming, to get you. They won’t find you. nobody will find you! you are with me!

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/104 "2008-12-14T02:24:05Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> But. On the live version of the song, found on the Kinks’ live album _The Road_, Ray does say “kissing” rather than “saying goodnight.”
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> And at the end of the song, he says, “Every Saturday night, my sister used to go to the Palais. And she came home and say to Ray, ‘I came dancing tonight.’”

I’m failing to see how any of this means the song is about “An old fart reminiscing about the days of his youth when he would fantasize about making out with his sister”. There is absolutely nothing in the song about the narrator fantasizing about making out with his sister, regardless of whether the sister kissed her boyfriends or not, or even whether she made a racy joke.

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**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/105 "2008-12-14T02:43:46Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> There are tons - and a number of threads about this.
> 
> My first-thought nominees besides ones already mentioned:
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> **The Toadies, Possum Kingdom** - named after a park in their hometown, it’s a guy telling a girl how she be beautiful forever - because he is trying to lure her behind the boathouse to kill her, so she’ll be young in everyone’s memory…_Do you want to die? Do you want to die? And I promise you, I will treat you well, my sweet angel - so help me Jesus_…squicks me out every time…
> 
> **Peter Gabriel, The Intruder** - best drumbeat ever, with the creepiest sounds mixed in. _I know, something about opening windows and doors…I know, something about creeping 'cross creaky wooden floors_…but with Gabriel singing it, you know it is an act, so it makes it bit more creepy-but-fun scary not just squick-out scary…

I’m almost positive that the toadies song is about a vampire trying to seduce the girl into letting him turn her into a vampire. It’s one of my favorite songs! Just saw posts 29 and 33.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/106 "2008-12-14T03:00:36Z")

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Ditto to the people who don’t see anything creepy about “Come Dancing”. WTF?

My vote is for “Country Death Song” by the Violent Femmes. When I uploaded the CD that that’s on onto my iTunes, I deleted that one. Don’t want to hear it.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/107 "2008-12-14T04:24:04Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> I’m failing to see how any of this means the song is about “An old fart reminiscing about the days of his youth when he would fantasize about making out with his sister”. There is absolutely nothing in the song about the narrator fantasizing about making out with his sister, regardless of whether the sister kissed her boyfriends or not, or even whether she made a racy joke.

For the record, I’m on your side: I don’t get the “making out with his sister” part, either.

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**Author:** ![Shawn1767](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shawn1767](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shawn1767)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/108 "2008-12-14T04:38:50Z")

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In “Come Dancing” the narrator is merely reminiscing about his childhood. Simpler times, when going out dancing was a big part of his sister’s life. When they tore down the Palais, part of his childhood died. Just like parts of our childhoods die when some institution is torn down. Then, in the end, he talks about how now there is no Palais and his sister has become a middle class, middle aged woman and he wonders if she would go dancing with him, just for old times’ sake. People who read something creepy into that are seeing things that just aren’t there. Go watch the video on youtube. It was a part of a routine in his life during his childhood that he remembers. And when they tore down the dancehall, that part of his life was over, as was his sister’s as she faded into a bourgeois, middle-class existence.

I liken it to the final scene in the pilot for Freaks and Geeks. Sam, the little brother is dancing and enjoying himself on the dancefloor and his big sister, Lindsay looks on and she is happy for him and these moments in his life.

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/109 "2008-12-14T05:03:22Z")

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_Well, I’d rather see you dead, little girl, than to be with another man_…  
_You’d better run with your life, if you can, little girl_  
_Hide your head in the sand, little girl_  
_I catch you with another man, that’s the end, little girl_

Just a little ditty from the **Beatles** called _Run for Your Life_.

Nothing like a good song advocating murder for an unfaithful girlfriend. 🙂 Or, in keeping with the cynical outlook of the great John Lennon, a song advocating dumping.

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/110 "2008-12-14T05:10:48Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> > [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> > The Beatles’s “Girl.”
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> Of all the Beatles songs you choose Girl?
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> Run Away Little Girl beats it by a mile…especially since I can’t think of what would make Girl creepy.

I suspect you were both trying to mention “Run For Your Life”, as **Fiddle Peghead** did, only **Annie** mistakenly named another Beatles song and you mistakenly named a non-existent Beatles song.

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/111 "2008-12-14T05:32:51Z")

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Timothy Trapped miners = eating your co-workers?

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/112 "2008-12-14T06:06:27Z")

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> [@Indistinguishable](#):
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> I suspect you were both trying to mention “Run For Your Life”, as **Fiddle Peghead** did, only **Annie** mistakenly named another Beatles song and you mistakenly named a non-existent Beatles song.

The only creepy thing about “Girl” is that it rhymes “leisure” and “pleasure.”

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**Author:** ![Chanteuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de053/32.png) [@Chanteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chanteuse)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/113 "2008-12-14T06:15:25Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> Timothy Trapped miners = eating your co-workers?

That reminded me of [Partners](http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Partners-lyrics-Jerry-Reed/70D28FF8BF73645148256E63000F5051) by Jim Reeves. I know it’s not rock, but it IS creepy! Kinda like [Miller’s Cave](http://www.tsrocks.com/b/bobby_bare_texts/millers_cave.html)–gives me a shiver!

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/114 "2008-12-14T06:20:35Z")

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> [@Shawn1767](#):
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> In “Come Dancing” the narrator is merely reminiscing about his childhood.

“Art Lover”, on the other hand does creep me out a bit. I think this was discussed on the Dope a few years ago.

Q

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/115 "2008-12-14T13:45:45Z")

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> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#):
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> How about the Kink’s _Come Dancing_? An old fart reminiscing about the days of his youth when he would fantasize about making out with his sister?

> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> “Art Lover”, on the other hand does creep me out a bit. I think this was discussed on the Dope a few years ago.
> 
> Q

good grief, just read the entire thread to see if this had been mentioned.

Here’s a lyric:  
Little girl dont notice me  
Watching as she innocently plays.  
She cant see me staring at her  
Because Im always wearing shades.  
She feeds the ducks, looks at the flowers.  
I follow her around for hours and hours.

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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/116 "2008-12-14T17:03:24Z")

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Peaches [Operate](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A4OG-BS_P4)

TSOL [Code Blue](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcCCXYtiDEk) (nsfw)

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/117 "2008-12-14T21:28:29Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> And, of course, \*\*Alone Again (Naturally) \*\*

I’d argue this one–the guy\* is such a fucking pathetic loser that it’s an upbeat song–the world is better of without him.

Same for the “Seasons In The Sun” suicidal weenie. When he FINALLY gets around to offing himself, humankind’s Maudlin-Self-Pitying-Snivel Quotient will drop by 23%.

There are songs about suicide that capture the loneliness, despair and bleak outlook about the future that would prompt one to consider suicide (Simon’s “I Am A Rock” comes right to mind for me). These two? Not as much.

What about the Beatles “Run For Your Life”?

Well I’d rather see you dead, little girl  
Than to be with another man  
You better keep your head, little girl  
Or I won’t know where I am

Also, that trial scene at the end of The Wall (“Good morning Worm, Your Honor”–that bit) always gave me the creeps. Especially when the judge gets to the bit about “The evidence before the court is/incontrovertable. There’s no need for the jury to retire.” Dunno what about it, but it _REALLY_ creeps me out.

\*Not Gilbert O’Sullivan per se, the ‘character’ he’s singing about.

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**Author:** ![constanze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@constanze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/constanze)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/118 "2008-12-14T22:19:42Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Same for the “Seasons In The Sun” suicidal weenie. When he FINALLY gets around to offing himself, humankind’s Maudlin-Self-Pitying-Snivel Quotient will drop by 23%.

How do you know that this a song about a suicide? The lyrics only say that the singer is about to die - it doesn’t say how or why. When I first heard it, I thought it was about a young child/teenager suffering from leukemia or another deadly illness. Browsing on the web, I found out that it’s a cover version of an older French song that’s interpreted to refer to a guy who caught his wife cheating with his friend, killed them and is now awaiting his own death (several different versions refer to Michelle as his girl/wife/daughter).  
But the commonly known cover version is simply a goodbye song about how it’s hard to die, and I don’t see the reasons given.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/119 "2008-12-14T23:12:27Z")

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‘Weird Al’ has some creepy ones:

[Melanie](http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Melanie-lyrics-Weird-Al-Yankovic/47474D3EE1B3E0604825690E00200304):

She lived across the street on the fifteenth floor of the Gailmore building  
I saw her in the shower reaching for some soap  
I knew she had to be the girl for me  
And to think I probably never would have found her  
If I hadn’t bought that telescope  
[Do I Creep You Out](http://www.absolutelyrics.com/lyrics/view/weird_al_yankovic/do_i_creep_you_out/):

I know that you  
Don’t know me very well  
We’ve barely met  
But I can surely tell  
No one will ever  
Love you like I do

And [I Remember Larry](http://www.metrolyrics.com/i-remember-larry-lyrics-weird-al-yankovic.html) was good too. (Pointless to post partial lyrics to this one - out of context and all that.)

And of course, [Good Old Days](http://www.metrolyrics.com/good-old-days-lyrics-weird-al-yankovic.html):

I can still remember good old Mr. Fender  
Who ran the corner grocery store  
Oh, he’d stroll down the aisle with a big friendly smile  
And he’d say “Howdy” when you walked in the door  
Always treated me nice, gave me kindly advice  
I don’t know why I set fire to his place  
Oh I’ll never forget the day I bashed in his head  
Well you should’ve seen the look on his face

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepiest-rock-song/476943/120 "2008-12-14T23:14:29Z")

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[Imagine You Were Mine](http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/mitch_benn_and_the_distractions_lyrics_30291/other_lyrics_60773/imagine_you_were_mine_lyrics_609781.html) --Mitch Benn

Although it’s supposed to be creepy.

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