Creepy, offensive, or just plain unsettling subtexts in lighthearted sitcoms.

I second that. I remember one episode where the cast is on a cruise, and due to Wacky Hijinxs, Daphne and Frasier are hiding in the bathroom of Maris’s stateroom, while Maris is in the other room. Daphne says she’s never actually seen Maris, so she opens the door to take a peek, but can’t see her.

“Is she behind the coatrack?” she asks.

“No, she is the coatrack,” says Frasier, and Daphne does a great doubletake. Daphne’s reaction is clearly supposed to be authentic. She’s not joking about being unable to tell Maris from a coatrack, Maris is really supposed to be that skinny.

Of course there’s the litttle matter of how the hell could the government actually capture Samantha. Or a family member. Not only would Endora be pissed, but likely all of witchdom.

Then again, maybe the government didn’t need to capture any of them because it already had some witches working for it on an extremely covert basis. Don’t forget this was during the height of the Cold War and there’s no telling what kind of hocus pocus the Ruskies were working on. America could not allow a magic gap to develope.

You know, that’d make for a hell of a fun 1960’s TV show.

Just think! Elphaba, eccentric witch under the employ of the CIA, and her partner, Agent Smith, the helplessly serious intelligence agent who is tasked with putting up with his partner’s outlandish stunts, all while trying to keep the presence of witches in the State Department from getting to the show’s antagonist, Joe McCarthy.

I would so watch this.

Saying that George of the Jungle was from Hanna Barbera? Heresy. I’m glad her series bombed.

George actually had Ursula, who was a lot smarter than he was. (But then so was a banana.)

George was so dumb, he often thought that Ursula was a man (or at least a companion who wasn’t female, just a pal)- hence the song lyric “fella and Ursula stay in step” (Ursula and “fella” are the same person).

You know maybe I was born too late. If I had been a network executive back in 1965 I could’ve pitched this as “Bewitched” meets “Man from U.N.C.L.E.”’ Also, in addition to their domestic McCarthyesque nemesis, they’d regularly battle the Soviet witches employed by the KGB’s secret sub-agency, B.A.B.A. Y.A.G.A. Just find a couple of actors with the right chemistry and this thing could’ve been GOLD!

Well exactly. There was in fact (and I hate myself all over again for knowing this, but at least now I have the excuse of being 8) that they had an episode where she goes back to Salem and the witch trials and she made the point that if any of these other woman were witches they’d be out of their chains and home safe and dry any time they wanted to.

As I write this…and I have no excuse of being 8, Everyone Loves Raymond is on and their having an episode about his brother’s wife being the mother’s favourite because she was a “good girl”. That being, being a virgin before marriage. Never talked about the guys being good boys. Not even an issue. Honestly. What year is this?

Indeed, what year IS this when stubborn old women can be portaryed on TV as using value systems one might have picked up in a Catholic family in the 1950’s! :rolleyes:

ALF. And the cat. (or the puppet that had to replace the real cat because of that maniac’s appetite.)

It’s not her attitude. It’s the show’s attitude. I realize that part of the show is everyone’s inability to stand up to her, but there really seemed, even when she wasn’t around, to be an accepted idea that this was ok, and there are good girls and bad girls. Somebody should have at least :rolleyes: . And maybe the woman in question (who was not raised in the '50’s) should have asked whether her husband was a “good boy” rather than just sucking it up. That’s what makes it creepy.

The sickest thing on Trek? Kes. Yeah, here’s my hot girlfriend. And you know what is great about her? She is getting YOUNGER! Pretty soon she’s going to be a child! :eek:

Try “boring”. Jokes about beer. ha. ha. Jokes about drinking. ha. ha. Jokes about drinking beer. :rolleyes: And ‘romances’ between people who loathed each other and had zero respect for each other.

Kes didn’t get younger (unless you count the episode where she started flashing backward in time). She was however only 2 when the show started (Ocampans only live to be 9).

Right, the poster was confusing her with the Drayans, whom Tuvok encountered in “Innocence” (VOY).

MWC fails on every level, and I’m so firm in this opinion that I can hardly take the time to debate it. I’ve never known anyone I respect who likes it. The family is horrible, the acting is just a passing attempt, and the writing is some of the least clever stuff I’ve ever heard.

I’ve read that MWC was probably headed for the Herman’s Head section of the Fox sitcom junkyard before it was protested by someone who hated it as much as I do, but didn’t realize that for a show like that, there really is no such thing as bad publicity.

An episode that was ripped off from Father Guido Sarducci, by the way.

And speaking of which:

I have to point out here that I was raised Catholic in the 1970s, nad got pretty much the same attitudes. I think if you’re going to enjoy that show, you have to realize that none of them are reliable. They’re all the object of the humor, and none of them (except maybe the wife) is the subject. That should allow you you to enjoy three or four episodes, anyway.

Oh, MAN! How awesome would that be! I suspect the writers get half their ideas from our own Lost threads so that might happen. Don’t forget the coconut walkie talkies.