# Creepy, ominous SD comments pre 9/11 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 13, 2002, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-ominous-sd-comments-pre-9-11/123760 "2002-08-13T23:05:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2002, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-ominous-sd-comments-pre-9-11/123760/1 "2002-08-13T23:05:23Z")
While looking up an old thread (which was actually a rather unfortunate Great Debate-gone-wrong on national missile defense back when that was a hot media topic) for, uh, another purpose, I found the following comments by me: > [@](#): > > The idea that people wouldn’t attack (the U.S.A.) because of our MAD (mutually assured destruction) capability could go out the window with a particularly fervent and radical Muslim or other religious sect viewing us as some Great Satan and themselves as receiving eternal heavenly reward for wiping us out. Suicide bombing on a huge scale, if you will. And minty green: > [@](#): > > Even if NMD (national missile defense) worked perfectly, it would not prevent “rogue nations” or Osama Bin Laden from forever eliminating the New York Yankees from World Series contention via a nuke in a cargo container. And me again: > [@](#): > > True. You would only want to develop a missile defense to stop flown-in weapons of mass destruction. We need to address other types of threat along those lines differently. I presume that we are (thinking about the terrorists who were stopped at the Canadian border prior to New Year’s, 2000). The above comments were made in May 2001 - about four months before Sept. 11. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2002, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-ominous-sd-comments-pre-9-11/123760/2 "2002-08-13T23:12:17Z")
I’m callin’ TIPS! ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2002, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-ominous-sd-comments-pre-9-11/123760/3 "2002-08-14T01:38:04Z")
[Does the U.S. have any air defence besides aircraft?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=80096&highlight=concorde+missile) One month before, and makes reference to using airliners as virtual suicide craft. :eek: Ranchoth ---
**Author:** ![Violet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ebca7d/32.png) [@Violet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Violet)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2002, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-ominous-sd-comments-pre-9-11/123760/4 "2002-08-14T03:29:26Z")
Very :eek: Milossarian. Hmm. Might want to change that name. Not that it’s in a stereotype. Just so you lose your post count! hahaha 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Baraqiyal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@Baraqiyal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baraqiyal)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2002, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-ominous-sd-comments-pre-9-11/123760/5 "2002-08-14T04:18:12Z")
It’s too slow to search, but I remember a GQ asking the meaning of ground zero, just a few days before Sept. 11. ---
**Author:** ![lel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8797f3/32.png) [@lel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lel)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2002, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-ominous-sd-comments-pre-9-11/123760/6 "2002-08-14T05:24:05Z")
[This thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85362&highlight=plane+land) about whether or not there was enough runway space to land all planes at once was dated September 4, 2001. A little too close for comfort. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2002, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-ominous-sd-comments-pre-9-11/123760/7 "2002-08-14T06:19:57Z")
[Here is the ‘Ground Zero’ thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84272) **lel** , that thread about the possibility of landing all the planes at once stands out… one of many “how weird is _that?_” items from last year. All in all, I think the creepiest, most ominous pre 9-11 message board thread was that one at an aviation message board (Airliners?) from November 2000-- “If A 707 Hit The World Trade Center?” A long thread, which, after some meandering, came to pretty accurate conclusions. I sure would have hated to be the guy who started _that_ one. Hey, I found [the link](http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/336291)… ---
**Author:** ![Violet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ebca7d/32.png) [@Violet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Violet)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2002, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-ominous-sd-comments-pre-9-11/123760/8 "2002-08-14T06:29:54Z")
\*\* Larry Mudd \*\* – very eerie – that archived link. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2002, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-ominous-sd-comments-pre-9-11/123760/9 "2002-08-14T08:23:01Z")
In fairness, the _question_ of a 707 flying into the WTC is not eerie at all. After all, that’s what the designer of the building claimed it could withstand. ---
**Author:** ![DougAB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DougAB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DougAB)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2002, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-ominous-sd-comments-pre-9-11/123760/10 "2002-08-14T15:04:21Z")
It’s still a little bit unsettling how they discuss the possible number of dead, as well as the affects on the steel and glass. But in November 2000, September 11th was just another day.